Offical Thrustmaster Warthog Release

[sobek]

Geizhals (an austrian price tracking site) finally started listing the Hotas Warthog, starting from 323,28€.

[Steel Jaw]

Can someone please confirm weather the thrustmaster warthog joystick has a twist axis that can be used for rudders?

 

If you can afford this HOTAS you ought to be able afford some rudders...?

[Sov13t]

Is there anything else on the horizon besides Warthog that could potentially be better?

 

Wasn't CH Products working on something, anyone know?

[sweinhart3]

CH is making a Warthog setup too but its not going to be marketed to the consumer.

[Yskonyn]

Mine is ordered!

Yay for me!

 

I can't unpack it once it arrives until the 2nd of december though... that's my birthday; Order from the 'missus'.

I think I have to place the box on the attic until that time so I wont be seeing it constantly... ;)

[SAM77]

Absolutely not. And it's a good thing too. ;)

 

I agree with you :thumbup:

 

Forces me to buy pedals :cry:

 

I havent even got track ir :cry::cry::cry:

 

Motorcycle comes first

Motorcycle comes first

Motorcycle comes first:cry:

[hassata]

I can't unpack it once it arrives until the 2nd of december though... that's my birthday; Order from the 'missus'. I think I have to place the box on the attic until that time so I wont be seeing it constantly... ;)

 

or

 

 

Please don't kill me, just a sick joke.

[Callsign.Vega]

^ - lol, that's what I am talking about. ;)

[Yskonyn]

Hm, while that might be a great option at first. Never underestimate the power of the female covert ops! ;)

[hassata]

Never. Overt can be pretty bad as well:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt

[Bwaze]

It looks like Warthog won't be available in most of the shops on 20. - 28. October in Europe:

 

http://geizhals.at/eu/a577830.html

 

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/2002516_-hotas-warthog-thrustmaster.html

 

Amazon.uk will have it on October 29. for 340 pounds, 415 EUR ($575) with shipment. Simware will have it on October 20. for 399 EUR + shipment.

 

There is one shop that's advertising it will be available in a week, three others state it will be available on 17. November. Others don't have the date yet.

 

I think I'll wait a bit, try the Target software on Cougar, and if I can make a workable profile I'll wait for prices to drop a bit, and also for the first user reviews.

[Feuerfalke]

It looks like Warthog won't be available in most of the shops on 20. - 28. October in Europe:

 

http://geizhals.at/eu/a577830.html

 

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/2002516_-hotas-warthog-thrustmaster.html

 

Amazon.uk will have it on October 29. for 340 pounds, 415 EUR ($575) with shipment. Simware will have it on October 20. for 399 EUR + shipment.

 

There is one shop that's advertising it will be available in a week, three others state it will be available on 17. November. Others don't have the date yet.

 

I think I'll wait a bit, try the Target software on Cougar, and if I can make a workable profile I'll wait for prices to drop a bit, and also for the first user reviews.

 

Actually, that's quite a progress! :thumbup:

 

3 days ago, geizhals.at said searching for Warthog HOTAS could not retrieve any European results. :doh:

[Yskonyn]

Never. Overt can be pretty bad as well:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt

 

Ouch. But at least my point is proven... I'd rather keep my John and just wait a few weeks before plugging in my new stick (pun intended :P)!

[sobek]

It looks like Warthog won't be available in most of the shops on 20. - 28. October in Europe:

 

http://geizhals.at/eu/a577830.html

 

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/2002516_-hotas-warthog-thrustmaster.html

 

Amazon.uk will have it on October 29. for 340 pounds, 415 EUR ($575) with shipment. Simware will have it on October 20. for 399 EUR + shipment.

 

I think all the shops are going to press what they can out of the preorders and afterwards they will go down on prices (hopefully:fear:). No way i'm going to buy that thing at full MSRP :rolleyes:

[159th_Viper]

I think all the shops are going to press what they can out of the preorders and afterwards they will go down on prices (hopefully:fear:). No way i'm going to buy that thing at full MSRP :rolleyes:

 

Over here in the UK Amazon are still selling the G940 at £250 - £400 and the Saitek X65F at £320 - £600 so all things considered, £340 is pretty OK'ish. My Cougar cost me more.......Thank F*#k I quit smokin' and drank myself right out of the habit when I was younger :D

[Feuerfalke]

When the Cougar was released, the initial price in Europe was about 350 Euros. Prices only varied a little over the next years, until the "light" version with the plastic buttons was released.

 

So I doubt the HOTAS Warthog will become much cheaper so quickly. At least not before Christmas.

[Bwaze]

What are then all those lower prices at 330 - 350 EUR? I guess since you cannot preorder in these shops and prices can change any time we will see more realistic prices only after Warthog becomes available. I just hope it will not stay at factory recommended price.

 

Or even increase, as we have seen with graphic cards. ATI 5850 and 5870 are still more expensive than they were one year ago! I hope Thrustmaster will not adopt this sales tactics - create apparent shortage, so the items are not in stock at many shops at the same time. That way shops have no wish to compete and lower prices.

[W0t4N]

I doubt prices will fall before end of Christmas season or even end of January sales. If the decision is to pay full MSRP or -10% two or three months later.. my decision is clear: preorder!!

 

/W

[roob]

What are then all those lower prices at 330 - 350 EUR? I guess since you cannot preorder in these shops and prices can change any time we will see more realistic prices only after Warthog becomes available. I just hope it will not stay at factory recommended price.

 

Or even increase, as we have seen with graphic cards. ATI 5850 and 5870 are still more expensive than they were one year ago! I hope Thrustmaster will not adopt this sales tactics - create apparent shortage, so the items are not in stock at many shops at the same time. That way shops have no wish to compete and lower prices.

 

Joysticks aren't in the "price-drops-over-time"-category unlike graphic cards or cars which "age" much much much faster.

Edited October 13, 2010 by roob

[sobek]

Joysticks aren't in the "price-drops-over-time"-category unlike graphic cards or cars which "age" much much much faster.

 

Oh contraire, the g940 dropped from 300€ MSRP to 250 relatively quickly, as did the saitek x65 from 400€ to 300. I too doubt that that will happen with the TMHW, though. There are not enough retailers, at least in Austria, to bring the prices down.

 

There's shops in germany that list it at around 330€ though.:huh:

[Feuerfalke]

I'm not so sure your conclusion will work out, either.

 

Both joysticks dropped in price, because few people wanted to risk such a price for something they couldn't estimate:

 

The G940 had very poor drivers for a long time and the ForceFeedback is that widely wanted.

The X65F is force-sensing (Hello, Luke, sense my force?).

 

 

As posted above, the Cougar did not fall in price nearly that quickly and neither did the X52 and X52pro.

 

 

Edit: These German shops don't have the best reputation. However, I'll probably contact them or check their AGBs for price-changes on preorder-items.

 

Edit2: AGB German shop MIX:

Für die Lieferung gelten die Listenpreise zum Zeitpunkt der Auftragserteilung oder Auftragsbestätigung.

The price is the current price when ordering or when confirming the order by the company.

Whatever that means.

Edited October 13, 2010 by Feuerfalke

[Yskonyn]

Be aware guys, Feuerfalke makes a good point here.

Don't get too obsessed about getting the best price. Expecially on the internet, with these prices/products, there are a lot of scams and considering the investment you owe it to yourself to make an informed purchase.

I would only buy from a store I am comfortable with and I know they're legit. I rather pay a few 10s of euro's more for that.

There are countless of stories out there from people who got scammed cause they wanted a cheap price.

Edited October 13, 2010 by Yskonyn

[sobek]

I can only buy at E-tec anyways, because that's where i bought and returned my g940 and, naturally, they only gave me a credit voucher and not the money :doh::)

[Yskonyn]

I can only buy at E-tec anyways, because that's where i bought and returned my g940 and, naturally, they only gave me a credit voucher and not the money :doh::)

 

It craps me out when they do that.

Here, by law, you're entitled to get your money back, however many shops do the same thing you described; giving you vouchers instead of money.

It's a big, big hassle (discussion up to court threats) to get your money back and so most people just accept the vouchers.

[roob]

Oh contraire, the g940 dropped from 300€ MSRP to 250 relatively quickly, as did the saitek x65 from 400€ to 300.

 

I'm pretty sure those drops were because of more factors than the usual ones. They competed with each other aswell as the Warthog which many back then thought was due soon. Not to mention that they had/still have certain flaws (really bad software and x-, y-, z-bleed respectively) that scared people off. :smartass:

The Warthog on the other hand is in a league of it's own and kind of has its own customer base aswell as sharing the customer base with the aforementioned joysticks. :book:

 

Edit: Ah, Feurefalke beat me to it

Edited October 13, 2010 by roob