bojote Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 I've been considering taking the PDF to Kinko's and have them print it for me into a hard cover 'book' format but of my concerns is how 'accurate' the actual manual is, I mean.. I don't want to send it to print to later find out it contains many errors, so hopefully someone here will know how 'final' (not beta) this manual is. What do you guys think?
Steel Jaw Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 I think you should wait for a final draft, the one we have has hundreds of errors. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=58462 "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
dooom Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 do what i am going to do and also suggested back to my squadmates. Get yourself a Kindle 2 for a few bucks more and keep all your PDF check lists, Manuals and Approach plates on it for DCS and Lomac. It will be a heckofa bit easier to use the search function to point you where you need to go in the manual than flipping through pages. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002Y27P3M/?tag=gocous-20&hvadid=5731291757&ref=pd_sl_49iypa4fhk_b ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
pitbldr Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 That's a neat idea about the Kindle! I'm just too old fashioned though and prefer a nice thick manual over anything electronic! :D
Steel Jaw Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 Get yourself a Kindle 2 for a few bucks more It's $150...not a great deal IMHO. Still prefer a hardcopy...call me old school. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
Zenra Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 +1 DCS BS and A-10C were a big part of the reason I bought an iPad. I have all of my manuals and charts on it and it's great to have all that while I travel and am unable to sim. By the time you print a couple of 600+ page manuals at Kinkos (or at home) you're talking some pretty big bucks. Kindle (or Nook) are less expensive options if color is not that important to you, but some kind of electronic reader has become for me an essential "flight sim accessory". Zenra Intel i7 930 2.8GHz; ATI HD5850 1GB; 1TB Serial ATA-II; 12GB DDR3-1333; 24 x DL DVD+/-RW Drive; 800W PSU; Win7-64; TM Warthog HOTAS
HiJack Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 Kindle is to small. I use a second PC (portable) on the side with all documentation. 17" internal display and one 19" connected on the side makes it a huge platform for reading and displaying documents, checklists, key and joystick settings while flying.
bojote Posted October 14, 2010 Author Posted October 14, 2010 Hmm.. you bring an excelent point. in fact, this could be the perfect excuse for me to get an iPad... I also sim a lot in FSX and having a way to look at approach plates would be nice... I'm all in for 'color'! so, Kindle is not an option. Does anyone here have an iPad and comment on how convenient it is for PDF reading? (Apple has a history of not supporting certain Adobe products, such as Flash) so.. I want to make it fully supports PDF reading on an iPad. Thanks,
aceflier Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Hmm.. you bring an excelent point. in fact, this could be the perfect excuse for me to get an iPad... I also sim a lot in FSX and having a way to look at approach plates would be nice... I'm all in for 'color'! so, Kindle is not an option. Does anyone here have an iPad and comment on how convenient it is for PDF reading? (Apple has a history of not supporting certain Adobe products, such as Flash) so.. I want to make it fully supports PDF reading on an iPad. Thanks, I've got an iphone works fine with quickbooks app installed. Small on my phone though but it gets me through the startup. My problem is all these terms soi/china hat ect ect im used to hit button, lock target, fire weapon from lockon very tough sim for me to learn lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dooom Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 goodreader is the app you want to use for reading pdf on apple i-units. i like the kindle idea because its the same price as printing the two dcs manuals in hardcopy.. a tad more but I also am a big reader so i like the smaller size and battery life. a benefit of ipad would be the backlit display - if you sim inthe dark then the kindle might not cut the butter for ye. ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
Steel Jaw Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 My pdf reader of choice is a netbook. But it's still too small and a hardcopy is still preferred. Waiting for the final draft. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
Zenra Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Hmm.. you bring an excelent point. in fact, this could be the perfect excuse for me to get an iPad... I also sim a lot in FSX and having a way to look at approach plates would be nice... I'm all in for 'color'! so, Kindle is not an option. Does anyone here have an iPad and comment on how convenient it is for PDF reading? (Apple has a history of not supporting certain Adobe products, such as Flash) so.. I want to make it fully supports PDF reading on an iPad. Thanks, I use the GoodReader app on my iPad for most PDF reading because of the annotation features. Out of the box, though, the iPad does a good job rendering PDF files. Flash is another story - out of the box iPad does not support Flash, although there are supposed to be 3rd party apps that help (but I have not yet tried any). Zenra Intel i7 930 2.8GHz; ATI HD5850 1GB; 1TB Serial ATA-II; 12GB DDR3-1333; 24 x DL DVD+/-RW Drive; 800W PSU; Win7-64; TM Warthog HOTAS
leafer Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I work graveyard and have access to color laser printer. My question to those that have experience printing manual and whatnot is should I just click print or are there some features and settings I should select to print a manual to get the best possible quality as well as legibility? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
tusler Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 The cheap way to print Hi, I picked up one of these laser printers, it pumps out 18 pages a minute, the toner cartridge cost $38 from "precision roller" and is good for 10,000 pages. Its not in color but I have markers for that... http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HPLJ4000-R&cat=PRN Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals
leafer Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I guest not? :D ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Revelation Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I guest not? :D Pick a random page that has graphics, charts and text; compare the print quality and then print the whole shebang - as they say. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
leafer Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Too late. It's done and it doesn't look too shabby. If ya don't hear from me, I simply did not make it past one of the sentry flamethrowers. :D ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
froogle Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 IPad and GoodReader for me. I have a kindle too but honestly it's been gathering dust since getting the iPad. Perfect tool off manuals, charts, checklists and with good reader you can add your own notes too. Free fully voiced checklists for the A-10C and KA-50 http://www.monkeyfoot.com/tapcheck [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
rweaves6 Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 Damn!! Just spent $45 at Staples printing this thing. Guess i should have waited, just cant stand bringing the laptop to the can. Its well over an inch thick (the manual :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
StrongHarm Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
CrashEd Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 +1 for Good Reader. Also use my iPhone, as I already had it. Handy for sneaking a quick read of the manual, but not ideal. Still prefer a paper copy, but will wait until the final draft until I print/buy a copy (assuming a published version is still in the works?)
GunSlingerAUS Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 +1 DCS BS and A-10C were a big part of the reason I bought an iPad. I have all of my manuals and charts on it and it's great to have all that while I travel and am unable to sim. By the time you print a couple of 600+ page manuals at Kinkos (or at home) you're talking some pretty big bucks. Kindle (or Nook) are less expensive options if color is not that important to you, but some kind of electronic reader has become for me an essential "flight sim accessory". You're evil. Thanks to this post I blew AU$750 on an iPad here in Australia. But you're right, reading the A-10 manual on this thing is perfect; it looks stunning, and is so easy to find what you're looking for. Intel 11900K/NVIDIA RTX 3090/32GB DDR4 3666/Z590 Asus Maximus motherboard/2TB Samsung EVO Pro/55" LG C9 120Hz @ 4K/Windows 10/Jotunheim Schiit external headphone amp/Virpil HOTAS + MFG Crosswind pedals
lubey Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 Wow:surprise:...could have just got a laptop for that price! SPECS: Intel Core i5 760 @ 3.2 Ghz +turboboost enabled, 12 GB DDR3 1600 @ 1500 Mhz, ATI Radeon 5850, TrackIR 5, X52 Pro and Saitek pedals
Napa Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 I'll wait for the final version and I'm definitely printing this one. I wish it had higher res photos though. I hate printing low res images. Intel i7 12700k / Corsair H150i Elite Capellix / Asus TUF Z690 Wifi D4 / Corsair Dominator 32GB 3200Mhz / Corsair HW1000W / 1x Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 500Gb + 1 Corsair MP600 1TB / ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 / Fractal Design Meshify 2 / HOTAS Warthog / TFRP Rudder / TrackIR 5 / Dell U2515h 25" Monitor 1440p
Yoni63 Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 Ok, I'm really cringing as I write this because I know it's in front of me, but forgive me. I've looked all last night and today and don't find the PDF manual everyone is talking about? If someone could just direct me I'd be major ablidged to you. (I have the start up manual from Memphis Belle) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]HP d5000T/Vista SP1/Intel® Core 2 Quad CPU Q9490 @ 2.66 Ghz 3.00 GB Ram/32 bit OS/Nvidia GeForce 9500GT.
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