Problem with Warthog Throttle

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

Guys i own the Warthog since last Friday and it used to work flawlessly. But since today the throttle isnt recongnized by Windows anymore. It says that I got an unknown device connected. I tried different USB ports without success.

 

Help appreciated

 

 

My System:

 

Windows Vista 64bit

E8400 Core 2 Duo

4Gb Ram

Ati Hd4870

[fragged]

My advise is to test it on another PC if possible. If the same problem appears on the other PC, the throttle is most likely broken and you should return it :(

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

Doesn´t work on other PC either.

[Loz]

Oh Oh Looks like first failure. Hard Luck

(Just like one of my MFDs that lasted half an hour.)

[STP Dragon]

Better now than in two years.

So... back to Baden-Baden.

[coolts]

Small throttle play

 

Guys can you please confirm that with the throttles separated you see;

• 1-3 mm for and aft play in the right throttle
  
• 1-2mm side to side play in the left throttle
  

Basically, if everybody has it, then it’s a general small design flaw and I can live with it. If it’s only some of us then I am going to return the unit to Amazon whist I am in my 7 day returns grace period for replacement.

This could probably be fixed with some internal tinkering, but for £330 and an invalidated warranty? Bollocks to that.

Edited November 2, 2010 by coolts

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

Coolts my throttle has exactly the same play as yours, but mine quit working :D

[RaoulDuke1980]

Yeah, same issue here with the side-to-side movement

[coolts]

and back and forth on right one?

[RaoulDuke1980]

and back and forth on right one?

 

yes, both throttles when separated seem to have a few millimetres of back and forth play without actually giving any input... this is a bit worrying

[Joe]

Confirmed, my review sample right throttle also has a bit of back-and-forth play. I didn't notice it until this thread made me check.

[coolts]

Yeah, same issue here with the side-to-side movement

 

 

And back and forth on right one?

 

Not a problem when linked. I had a little look with a torch into the shaft innards, (ooer), and you can see how each throttle’s 'play' is caused by a different slight slackness. Shouldn’t be difficult to fix and it doesn't spoil the setup for me it’s just that i wanted to know i wasn’t sat on the only buggered one.

 

If you think about it. As there isn’t a hugely powerful centering spring as in the stick which prevents play there, its inevitable to have some play otherwise friction would wear away the parts far too quickly. A little tighten should do it but I’m not opening mine up first….

[Bwaze]

So all the talk about 16384 values (14 bit) accuracy of throttles is actually pretty useless, 255 would be more than enough if it has 3 mm of play in about 10 cm of travel...

[kaiserb_uk]

Mine's the same.

 

I think it's a side-effect of the detent mechanism as the throttle levers have to be able to lift so they're not actually connected directly to the pivot/tension mechanism.

 

While it's a little annoying now that it's been pointed out (yeah, thanks Coolts ;)), it isn't something I notice when in use, even with them split. The actual movement is still super smooth and accurate and that's what you notice in game.

Edited November 2, 2010 by kaiserb_uk

[Dejjvid]

I bet there is some play in the real deal aswell. You can't make 'em without atleast some play. Since you will experience friction instead, and that friction will eat your throttle from the inside! And i don't want my throttle to eat itself. Now im gonna go back and curse the french for being way to slow sending my HOTAS. It's been boxed since friday, and still they have not managed to send it.

[coolts]

nooooooooo. Ive not killed santa or the easter bunny and my name isnt GRINCH! ;)

 

Just wanted to know if mine was dodgy and glad its not. I can handle a few small imperfections for gods sake i drive an Astra!

 

Absolutely loving the HOTAS though. It's light years ahead of my cougar which was itself miles ahead from my saitek evo.

[coolts]

I bet there is some play in the real deal aswell. You can't make 'em without atleast some play. Since you will experience friction instead, and that friction will eat your throttle from the inside! And i don't want my throttle to eat itself. Now im gonna go back and curse the french for being way to slow sending my HOTAS. It's been boxed since friday, and still they have not managed to send it.

 

Having seen enough porn photos of the real cockpit there are two rubber flaps to the side of each throttles travel-slot-thing (technical term), i assume partly to stop dust and sandwich crumbs and a side effect will be the reduction of play.

 

[from the DCS A-10 manual]

Edited November 2, 2010 by coolts

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

Called Thrustmaster Support, the guy seemed a bit helpless. He said he´ll talk to the developers and will contact me again.

[jerda]

I cant believe nobody noticed this on the other previous reviews.

 

You didn't kill santa coolts, the easter bunny did! You and the grinch just sat back and laughed. :)

 

..., this does seem pretty petty, so i wont cancel my pre-order.

[coolts]

Called Thrustmaster Support, the guy seemed a bit helpless. He said he´ll talk to the developers and will contact me again.

 

Bollocks to TM, who did you buy it from? Its the vendors responsibilty.

 

I cant believe nobody noticed this on the other previous reviews.

 

You didn't kill santa coolts, the easter bunny did! You and the grinch just sat back and laughed. :)

 

..., this does seem pretty petty, so i wont cancel my pre-order.

 

And no, dont cancel your pre-orders. Read my review. The throttle is amazing. The play is tiny. My Cougar stick used to move into the next room before registering any input! :joystick:

Edited November 2, 2010 by coolts

[Teej]

I was looking at it a bit and any play on mine is actually between the handle and the shaft. The actual "moving part" seems to be slop free.

[heliosjet]

little play side to side of the left throtlle 1/2 mm too. Come on what did you expect? Nothing important really.

Still some kind of masterpiece...

[kaiserb_uk]

I was looking at it a bit and any play on mine is actually between the handle and the shaft. The actual "moving part" seems to be slop free.

 

You sure? The handle and shaft are one and the same - it's one piece of plastic.

 

The play is where the bottom of the shaft becomes the lift mechanism, as far as I can tell.

[Joe]

I cant believe nobody noticed this on the other previous reviews.

The reason is because the throttle action is so smooth and precise that it's not noticeable when one is actually flying. If you sit there and stare at the throttle while gently pushing it back and forth with one finger (as this thread made me do), then you see the play.

[Chain]

Same thing here with the side-to-side movement on left throttle (1-2 mm). Not an issue to me. I love this thing ;)