con3para Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 hi is anyone flying on a full HD tv. 1080i-1080p. If so how does it compare to a monitor TFT or a LCD. at high resolutions..is it worth buying a full hd TV.:smilewink: HAF TOWER / MSI z77 G43 /-i5-3570k.@ 3.4mhz / GTX 780 / Patriot 8GB. DDR3 / TM-HOTAS-warthog 00228
tusler Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 Hi, i run it at 1680x1080 which is far better than HDTV. I think you are far better off with a GTX470 video card and a good size LCD Monitor. Just my opinion though:D Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals
airdog Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 Hi, i run it at 1680x1080 which is far better than HDTV. I think you are far better off with a GTX470 video card and a good size LCD Monitor. Just my opinion though:D A full HDTV has a resolution of 1920x1080....can you explain to me how 1680x1080 is far better? Airdog | Asus ROG Strix Z370-E Mobo | i7 8700K @ 4.7 | 32 GB DDR4@3200mhz | Gigabyte 2080Ti OC 11GB| Samsung M.2 960 Evo 250Gb and 500Gb | Win10 Pro | Hotas Warthog #02743 | Track IR 5 | Toshiba 47" 120hz LED | Acer 23" Touchscreen | HELIOS |Oculus Rift-S| http://www.blackknightssquadron.com/
Vullcan Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 1080p, aka 1920x1080 is fine for this sim (or any game for that matter) but computers unlike consoles are capable of displaying far greater resolutions than that. a "full HDTV" will never live up to what a computer monitor LCD can display with current technology. Computer LCD's have been "HD" long before 720 / 1080p came about, and now they are "beyond HD". 1
Spartan Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) 1080p, aka 1920x1080 is fine for this sim (or any game for that matter) but computers unlike consoles are capable of displaying far greater resolutions than that. a "full HDTV" will never live up to what a computer monitor LCD can display with current technology. Computer LCD's have been "HD" long before 720 / 1080p came about, and now they are "beyond HD". Computer LCD's have only been full HD for not longer than there bigger screen TV counterparts. Conventional Monitors have been 720p for a very long time, but not 1080p. HD in the electronic and AV scene is considerd 720p (1280x720pixels) AKA 1080i with quite low refresh rates FULL HD is 1080p (1920x1080pixels) with quite resonable refresh rates up to what some consider ULTRA HD (2560x1200pixels) You will always get a better image out of a FULL HD screen or better a "ULTRA HD" screen. Problem with the "ULTRA HD" screen is that there response time in most models are quite poor, 12ms ect. Most Full HD monitors for gaming are 2ms. Playing on a 42" FULL HD TV is very nice it just depends on the model you choose, the refresh rate of the screen and how far you sit back from it. Only difference between the LCD/LED TV and Monitor is the size of the pixles and the latency, eg. 2ms 5ms 12ms. These days most BIG FULL HD TV'S outperform conventional monitors as far as refresh rates go but dont have no where near the pixel density of 24" 27" and even 32" monitors. Summing up, Its a personel preference and i find playing on my 42" alot more enjoyable than playing on my 27". sit further back from the 42" and you will be very pleasently suprised at how outstanding gaming is on it. Edited February 20, 2011 by Spartan -Corsair Obsidian 800D -Corsair H50 -Corsair 1600mhz 7-7-7-20 -Intel i7 930 @ 3.99ghz -EVGA X58 Classified -EVGA GTX480 @2 In SLI -EVGA GTX 285 Physx -Silverstone 1500 psu -Logitech G940 (retired) -TM Warthog HOTAS -42" Sony X-Series 1080P LCD -17" Dell Acc Monitor @2
Alicatt Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) Computer LCD's have only been full HD for not longer than there bigger screen TV counterparts. Conventional Monitors have been 720p for a very long time, but not 1080p. HD in the electronic and AV scene is considerd 720p (1280x720pixels) AKA 1080i with quite low refresh rates FULL HD is 1080p (1920x1080pixels) with quite resonable refresh rates up to what some consider ULTRA HD (2560x1200pixels) 720p is not 1080i, 720p is a resolution of 1280 x 720 progressivly scanned lines ie the picture is displayed in one go. 1080i is 1920 x1080 but is displayed as two "interlaced" fields of 1920x540 lines to make up one frame at 1920x1080. 1080p is a screen resolution of 1920 x1080 displayed as one progessivly scanned frame. A 720p monitor/TV has a native resolution of 1280 x 720 A 1080i monitor/TV has a native resolution of 1920 x 540 A 1080p monitor /TV has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 I use either a 1080p 24" monitor or a 50" 1080p plasma screen with my PC, My PS3 is connected to a 1080p projector showing a picture of 3.05m (120") diagonal Edited February 20, 2011 by Alicatt Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron
jeffyd123 Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 I bought a used 60" DLP (Mitsubishi) used for $450 and Im really happy with it. It doesnt give me any problems and the picture is friggin great. The only gripe is i had to set my resolution to 1776 x 1000 because of Overscan but its somewhat common to have to do that on big screens. I dont notice any loss of quality. The HDMI quality has been amazing... Gaming on a large screen is life-changing LOL. Jeff i7 8700K @ 4.4Ghz, 16G 3200 RAM, Nvidia 1080Ti, T16000 HOTAS, TIR5, 75" DLP Monitor
Nikeleye Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 I recently converted from a 22" LCD running 1680x1050 to a 32" TV running in 1080p. It's a cheaper model so the response times aren't great and the sharpness isn't spot on - but wow, honestly the first time I booted up DCS, ArmA and a HD video on it I was blown away. It's totally changed my gaming/simming. I fully accept a 32" LCD would well outperform my TV, but frankly at their current cost they just aren't viable for me. My personal opinion? 1080p TV is the way to go. :thumbup:
Spartan Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 720p is not 1080i, 720p is a resolution of 1280 x 720 progressivly scanned lines ie the picture is displayed in one go. 1080i is 1920 x1080 but is displayed as two "interlaced" fields of 1920x540 lines to make up one frame at 1920x1080. 1080p is a screen resolution of 1920 x1080 displayed as one progessivly scanned frame. A 720p monitor/TV has a native resolution of 1280 x 720 A 1080i monitor/TV has a native resolution of 1920 x 540 A 1080p monitor /TV has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 I use either a 1080p 24" monitor or a 50" 1080p plasma screen with my PC, My PS3 is connected to a 1080p projector showing a picture of 3.05m (120") diagonal sorry to not clarify more but the difference between the two is minimal at best. and therefore closly related in most high definition related fields. you are right, 720p is not 1080i but 720p having the most pure picture. eg, anti-aliasing methods AAX8 in games vs AAX8Q. -Corsair Obsidian 800D -Corsair H50 -Corsair 1600mhz 7-7-7-20 -Intel i7 930 @ 3.99ghz -EVGA X58 Classified -EVGA GTX480 @2 In SLI -EVGA GTX 285 Physx -Silverstone 1500 psu -Logitech G940 (retired) -TM Warthog HOTAS -42" Sony X-Series 1080P LCD -17" Dell Acc Monitor @2
Boberro Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 I'd choose 50" LCD TV in Full HD. IMHO bigger picture better view and you can lay on bed - don't have to sit on table... Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Rusty_M Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 I have a 21" 1080p LCD/LED backlit monitor and a 40" 1080p TV. I prefer the monitor, but it's over 2 years newer. Also, I worry about how trackIR would work with the TV, and I have some overscan issues when it's connected to my PC (although not my laptop). I still need to figure out how to game on the TV without losing the edges of the image. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
Vullcan Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 Computer LCD's have only been full HD for not longer than there bigger screen TV counterparts. Conventional Monitors have been 720p for a very long time, but not 1080p. HD in the electronic and AV scene is considerd 720p (1280x720pixels) AKA 1080i with quite low refresh rates FULL HD is 1080p (1920x1080pixels) with quite resonable refresh rates up to what some consider ULTRA HD (2560x1200pixels) You will always get a better image out of a FULL HD screen or better a "ULTRA HD" screen. Problem with the "ULTRA HD" screen is that there response time in most models are quite poor, 12ms ect. Most Full HD monitors for gaming are 2ms. Playing on a 42" FULL HD TV is very nice it just depends on the model you choose, the refresh rate of the screen and how far you sit back from it. Only difference between the LCD/LED TV and Monitor is the size of the pixles and the latency, eg. 2ms 5ms 12ms. These days most BIG FULL HD TV'S outperform conventional monitors as far as refresh rates go but dont have no where near the pixel density of 24" 27" and even 32" monitors. Summing up, Its a personel preference and i find playing on my 42" alot more enjoyable than playing on my 27". sit further back from the 42" and you will be very pleasently suprised at how outstanding gaming is on it. A 1080p TV is no more "HD" than a monitor that can output 1920x1080 pixels, and I've had computer monitors and video cards pushing that resolution in the late 90's, certainly no one i knew had a TV capable of doing that then. The point is TV's always have been and still currently are far behind computer monitors in terms of how high a resolution they can push, and that means that a computer monitor will have a higher definition image as long as the source material is of that quality or higher.
Spartan Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) A 1080p TV is no more "HD" than a monitor that can output 1920x1080 pixels, and I've had computer monitors and video cards pushing that resolution in the late 90's, certainly no one i knew had a TV capable of doing that then. The point is TV's always have been and still currently are far behind computer monitors in terms of how high a resolution they can push, and that means that a computer monitor will have a higher definition image as long as the source material is of that quality or higher. First of all, i never stated that a TV was more "HD" than a conventional monitor, it simply doesnt work that way. Now that thats clear.... Computer monitors are no more ahead of the curve than conventional lcd tv's these days as far as pixel count "definition" and refresh rate goes. ALL computer monitors are limited to what resoloution they can produce relative to the pixel count. you CANT get 1080p out of a 1680x1050 screen no more than you can get 1024x768 out of a 1680x1050 screen. Just like you CANT get a 2560x1200 out of a 1080p screen. Like i stated previously, all forms of "HD" are directly reflected by there pixel count and in some circumstances, there refresh rate. Biggest difference between the two currently, Pixel size and form. Edited February 21, 2011 by Spartan -Corsair Obsidian 800D -Corsair H50 -Corsair 1600mhz 7-7-7-20 -Intel i7 930 @ 3.99ghz -EVGA X58 Classified -EVGA GTX480 @2 In SLI -EVGA GTX 285 Physx -Silverstone 1500 psu -Logitech G940 (retired) -TM Warthog HOTAS -42" Sony X-Series 1080P LCD -17" Dell Acc Monitor @2
Pyroflash Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 I always find that monitors tend to be cheaper and a lot of the time better than TV's. The image quality on a lot of TV's tends to be really bad, and unless you want to spend $800 or more, you aren't really going to fix that issue. If you still want to game on your TV, that is perfectly fine too though(as long as you are willing to pony up the cash), and it is mostly up to personal preference as to which one you like better. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
LawnDart Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) I agree with Spartan's comments! The only thing my 40" TV monitor (1920x1080) won't do as well as a computer monitor is its DPI (dots per inch... simply because it's bigger). So, yea... the resolution is the same, but a smaller monitor sporting the same res will have more pixels per inch, so it might look sharper. The iPhone's Retina display is a good example of this as they crammed 960x640 pixels into a screen 3.5" across. It looks extremely sharp, but when you put the same videos/photos on a bigger computer screen they don't look as crisp at all. I'm very happy with my LCD HDTV monitor and it's completely plug and play in Win 7 using the HDMI output from my vid card. Edited February 22, 2011 by LawnDart [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
Succellus Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 I agree with Spartan's comments! The only thing my 40" TV monitor (1920x1080) won't do as well as a computer monitor is its DPI (dots per inch... simply because it's bigger). So, yea... the resolution is the same, but a smaller monitor sporting the same res will have more pixels per inch, so it might look sharper. The iPhone's Retina display is a good example of this as they crammed 960x640 pixels into a screen 3.5" across. It looks extremely sharp, but when you put the same videos/photos on a bigger computer screen they don't look as crisp at all. I'm very happy with my LCD HDTV monitor and it's completely plug and play in Win 7 using the HDMI output from my vid card. LOL you play on my TV... at what range ? (from the TV) I see you have the MFD cougar, dou you have a screen behing them to get the mfcd function ? I would be curious to see a picture of your settings. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
con3para Posted March 1, 2011 Author Posted March 1, 2011 just ordered a Toshiba full HD 1080p T.V. 32"..Let you know how i get on . HAF TOWER / MSI z77 G43 /-i5-3570k.@ 3.4mhz / GTX 780 / Patriot 8GB. DDR3 / TM-HOTAS-warthog 00228
Succellus Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Please, i m thinking about a 32 hd 1080P or a 27" which is the widest i can find here and they are bout the same price. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Succellus Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 LCD X LED That is the question now.... Which is better ? HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
LawnDart Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 LED! Btw, the term "Full HD" is the biggest marketing ploy of our time. For anyone buying today I'd go with 1080p (it's mainstream), 120 or 240Hz. Computer monitors will look sharper, but the larger displays (TVs) aren't bad, and the lines between monitor/TV are getting very blurred as they are essentially the same screens nowadays. My computer uses HDMI (not DVI) connectors. Lastly, unless cost is an issue I'd definitely choose LED as it's perfect for gaming! No ghosting, better color presentation and superfast refresh rates. [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
Succellus Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Thamk you very much, thats the answer i needed. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Weasel Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Hi all I have just a general question: As the prices for 27" HD monitors have come down, I'm now interested in buying such a 27" HD monitor. My question is now, how is the different for the A-10C between a normal 22" (1680 x 1050) and a 27" HD monitor (1920 x 1080)?
AtaliaA1 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 The answer to that is in a statement from a post a few posts up. Copied from there. I agree with Spartan's comments! The only thing my 40" TV monitor (1920x1080) won't do as well as a computer monitor is its DPI (dots per inch... simply because it's bigger). So, yea... the resolution is the same, but a smaller monitor sporting the same res will have more pixels per inch, so it might look sharper. The iPhone's Retina display is a good example of this as they crammed 960x640 pixels into a screen 3.5" across. It looks extremely sharp, but when you put the same videos/photos on a bigger computer screen they don't look as crisp at all. I'm very happy with my LCD HDTV monitor and it's completely plug and play in Win 7 using the HDMI output from my vid card. This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
LawnDart Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 The "lines" between LCD/LED TVs and LCD/LED monitors are getting "blurrier" each day. Not literally speaking of course (they're actually getting crisper), but figuratively speaking. ;) [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
Weasel Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 That means the games are looking much better on a HD-TFT, but supports DCS A-10C HD-TFTs in a special way or looks it just better because it's a HD-TFT?
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