Lange_666 Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 I always wonder why people buy a study sim like this one, learn it, go multiplayer and then act like it's some sort of a console game. 2 days in a row i find myself on an airport where ATC clearly says to take-off on runway 33 but where 50% of the players don't bother and take-off in the other direction although the tower clearly tell them to take off on runway 33 (reason: they just picked an aircraft parked on the far side of the airfield). Upon inbound, i got clearance to land on runway 33 and just before touchdown got the order to go around (reason: some idiot thought it was his turn to take-off from RWY 15). If you pick an airplane which sits on the opposite side of the airfield, is it really so hard to taxi around to the other side of the field and at least take-off from the correct side of the runway? Today i was looking for some mulitplayer (there was not much available because almost every server was PW-ed) and when looking through the briefings of those that where open to the public, i saw this in the briefing: Take-off: RWY 31, Landing: RWY 13 ....:cry: And then... tower personel is unrealiable... hell yeah. I guess the mission designer is the most unrealibale person around. If you want to play a study sim, then do so... 1 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
goldfinger35 Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 I guess that most of those guys didn't do it on purpose (they didn't know which runway to use) - rookie mistake. i7 920@4.0Ghz, 12 GB RAM, ATI 4890, LG L246WHX@1920x1200, Saitek X52 Pro, Saitek pro flight rudder pedals, TrackIR4, Audigy 2ZS, Logitech G9x, Vista 64bit.
Steel Jaw Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 That's why we lock our servers. Get into an online squad and all your problems melt away. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
Lange_666 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Posted March 27, 2011 @ Goldfinger: Rookie mistake? From someone with over a 1000 posts behind his name inhere and who took the effort to learn himself through startup/CDU/TGP/Bombing and the rest... guess not... @ Mower: I'm into an online squad (one of the oldest around) but i'm the only one flying A-10C atm... but yeah, flying solo would solve my problems. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
bengo Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Try the 74th. It's locked, but the pw is on the TS-welcome screen. So, no TS, no joining. Feel free to pay us a visit, you're always welcome. Check out the mission-briefings on our forum. i7 6700k/GTX1070-8G/MSI-Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon/32GB DDR4 Kingston HyperX PREDATOR DDR4 3000MHZ Vengeance 1600/TM Warthog #6106/Samsung SB350_S27B350H/OCZ Agility3 SSD 128GB / Win10-64/TIR5
Laud Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 2 days in a row i find myself on an airport where ATC clearly says to take-off on runway 33 but where 50% of the players don't bother and take-off in the other direction although the tower clearly tell them to take off on runway 33 (reason: they just picked an aircraft parked on the far side of the airfield). Tower always takes the wrong RWY in regards to the set wind direction. So actually those who follow it's takeoff-instructions are maybe the idiots... :music_whistling: No seriously, I understand your point in general, but I always takeoff on the opposite direction the tower advises, because that way I know I will takeoff against the wind. But I really feel you when it comes to all the other annyoing issues of an open MP-Server. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
Snoopy Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Tower always takes the wrong RWY in regards to the set wind direction. So actually those who follow it's takeoff-instructions are maybe the idiots... :music_whistling: No seriously, I understand your point in general, but I always takeoff on the opposite direction the tower advises, because that way I know I will takeoff against the wind. But I really feel you when it comes to all the other annyoing issues of an open MP-Server. Haven't seen this...when I've set up wind it has been the correct runway to take off/land into it.... v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
Grimes Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Until the MP interface and organization of MP changes it will remain like this. Its not 100% bad, but it isn't exactly 100% great either. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
BlueRidgeDx Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 There was an issue in the betas where both the ME and ATC handled wind incorrectly. They described the direction the wind was going, instead of the direction it was coming from. I haven't had a chance to look at the final version with much of a critical eye, so perhaps it was never fixed...? "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
sobek Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Try the 74th. It's locked, but the pw is on the TS-welcome screen. So, no TS, no joining. Feel free to pay us a visit, you're always welcome. Check out the mission-briefings on our forum. Yep, been there this evening, and even though i was about as useful in combat as a ulcer on your buttock, the atmosphere was very cordial and directions given out were excellent, had a really nice time there. :thumbup: 1 Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Heli Shed Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Yep, been there this evening, and even though i was about as useful in combat as a ulcer on your buttock, the atmosphere was very cordial and directions given out were excellent, had a really nice time there. :thumbup: Sorry to have missed you Sobek, but I have it on good authority that you were well 'hosted' so to speak. Feel free to pop on the server anytime, and of course that goes to any member of the community. At present we have two missions in 'rotation' - Op Switchblade and Op Maximise v2. Three other missions are being designed as i write this. All 5 Missions are based around a common enemy where you 'work' out of a common Airfield (FMB) under, dare i say it, a 'common' or better said, 'persistent' scenario that evolves with each mission. In essence, a MP Campaign. The Campaign Scenario can be found on the 74th's Website. Each Mission is designed to be realistic in threat, and is always achieveable or even 'failable' (if there is such a word!), and from start to completion (either way) can take as little as 2 hrs or as long as is required. Each mission has a concise and realistic mission briefing that is duplicated in 'colour' on the 74th's website that all registered visitors have access to. Some of these missions have 'intelli-phot' for greater clarity of understanding of the mission. As Bengo as eluded to. Our server is closed, but is open to 'anyone' who likes to immerse themselves alongside the AFM of this fantastic sim. All they have to do is come onto TS and be issued the server password as part of the MOTD. IMHO and therefore that of the ethos of the 74th, is that it is impossible - simply IMPOSSIBLE to enjoy the sim, the missions and the whole concept of Online MP Co-op expereince unless you use voice. I'm a quick typer, but even i cant aquire a target via TGP, setp my Wpn systems and Fly, AND type at the same time, neither do I or anymember of the 74th have ANY time for others who think you can, or who endorse this as a method of interaction with the community on a server. For those pilots who want to do daft things like fly upside down spewing chaff and flares over the runway or who don't use the correct brevity or even request RL clearance to taxi or takeoff, guess what? In RL they would be grounded and we are no different. We kick them instantly. So, OP, come on in and enjoy yourself. Bring a Microphone, TS3, the latest client; patched, a GSOH with a tinge of seriousness and you will be made most welcome. All others, please frequest open servers where this.............is the norm! regards 'T' Come pay us a visit on YouTube - search for HELI SHED
EtherealN Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 74th also has my stamp of approval, been there a few times and I like the TS for PW method. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
BoneDust Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 I always wonder why people buy a study sim like this one, learn it, go multiplayer and then act like it's some sort of a console game. 2 days in a row i find myself on an airport where ATC clearly says to take-off on runway 33 but where 50% of the players don't bother and take-off in the other direction although the tower clearly tell them to take off on runway 33 (reason: they just picked an aircraft parked on the far side of the airfield). Upon inbound, i got clearance to land on runway 33 and just before touchdown got the order to go around (reason: some idiot thought it was his turn to take-off from RWY 15). If you pick an airplane which sits on the opposite side of the airfield, is it really so hard to taxi around to the other side of the field and at least take-off from the correct side of the runway? Today i was looking for some mulitplayer (there was not much available because almost every server was PW-ed) and when looking through the briefings of those that where open to the public, i saw this in the briefing: Take-off: RWY 31, Landing: RWY 13 ....:cry: And then... tower personel is unrealiable... hell yeah. I guess the mission designer is the most unrealibale person around. If you want to play a study sim, then do so... Good points dude. Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | Pimax Crystal VR
bird-1 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 If the server is opening for public players, it will be very hard to ask everyone to obey the rules, we have tried to ask everyone to obey the rules but failed. When we train our squadron members, we would lock our server. NFI_651/bird-1 NFI Chinese Web Intel i7 6800k OC 3.7GHz | MSI X99 | Nvidia GTC1060 6G | DDR4 2400MHz 32GB | Sumsung SSD 256GB | Apple 27’LCD | TM Hotas Warthog for A10C & Cougar for FC3 | Saitek Flight Rudder Pedals [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic63864_3.gif[/sIGPIC]
Boberro Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Thanks god joining TS is not obligatory for most servers ;) Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
bengo Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 In my book : no TS=no immersion=no fun because everyone is lone-wolfing It's as vital as having TrackIr. 1 i7 6700k/GTX1070-8G/MSI-Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon/32GB DDR4 Kingston HyperX PREDATOR DDR4 3000MHZ Vengeance 1600/TM Warthog #6106/Samsung SB350_S27B350H/OCZ Agility3 SSD 128GB / Win10-64/TIR5
Druid_ Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Today i was looking for some mulitplayer (there was not much available because almost every server was PW-ed) and when looking through the briefings of those that where open to the public, i saw this in the briefing: Take-off: RWY 31, Landing: RWY 13 ....:cry: Some airfields are like this IRL due to the topography, 1 way in and 1 way out. If memory serves me right I think Nalchik is one. ATC needs improving to help with this imho. Wish I had a low enough ping to jump on the 74th's server, sounds good. i7-7700K : 16Gb DDR4 2800 Mhz : Asus Mobo : 2TB HDD : Intel 520 SSD 240gb : RTX 2080ti: Win10 64pro : Dx10 : TrackiR4 : TM Warthog : ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q
159th_Falcon Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Some airfields are like this IRL due to the topography, 1 way in and 1 way out. If memory serves me right I think Nalchik is one. ATC needs improving to help with this imho. Wish I had a low enough ping to jump on the 74th's server, sounds good. True, same goes for Sochi Adler i believe. Reason being are the mountains. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Bucic Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 That's why we lock our servers. Get into an online squad and all your problems melt away. What he said. Avoid such servers and servers where only 10% or so are on TS. Let them dry out. Try to initiate a snowball effect by convincing another serious player to leave the server with you. Regarding forcing rules on public servers - 51st and 104th (those I recall) had no problems achieving this, IIRC. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
159th_Falcon Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Regarding forcing rules on public servers - 51st and 104th (those I recall) had no problems achieving this, IIRC. Taxi way take-offs anyone? Not that it prevents me from playing there, but "no problem" enforcing rules...... not quite, appreciate there efforts though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Snoopy Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Taxi way take-offs anyone? Not that it prevents me from playing there, but "no problem" enforcing rules...... not quite, appreciate there efforts though. Of course:megalol: But only when the main runway has been bombed or someone crashes and blocks the runway... v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
159th_Falcon Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Of course:megalol: But only when the main runway has been bombed or someone crashes and blocks the runway... Also at game start, some are just very eager to get AB. As long as they don't run me off the taxi-way im ok whit it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Bucic Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 I rather meant that those servers admins don't just drop their hands powerlessly and watch :) F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
159th_Falcon Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 I rather meant that those servers admins don't just drop their hands powerlessly and watch :) Oh yes, do an good Job at that. Speaking of server admins, any date yet for another GCI weekend? Loved it the few hrs i was able to come online. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Headspace Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 IRL it is very easy to determine what the active runway is, by either listening to ATIS, or asking the tower or GC directly. I would think that in the military environment it is similarly easy. When you have a situation where there are bugs preventing interaction with the ATC script or it gets "stuck" (which frequently happens) it's difficult to find that information out. I haven't yet tested if it sets the active runway to the direction the wind is coming from or not. I have often times been in the situation of not knowing what the game wants the active runway to be, and making the decision on my own. When people want to play "hardcore" and pretend that they're doing it the way one would for real, that whole thing falls apart when you factor in the game elements mentioned above.
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