Eight Ball Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Not exactly the Beta. What's available with Arrowhead is the Community Preview. (Always had some problem to exactly define what is the CP, is that an upgraded version of A2 or a downgraded version of ToH ?) The CP just give the opportunity to try the MD500 and its -WIP- flight model. The beta will (is?) be available for people who have preordered the game. It contains : The light and medium civil helicopter classes are included, enabling a wide range of gameplay possibilities. Try your hand at sling-loading, fast-roping, Forward-Looking Infra-Red, low-level flight, and much more besides! A big chunk of our Seattle environment – including Downtown and the Space Needle – forms part of the Pre-Order Beta. Players can explore their own heliport, and take to the skies above ~30x30km of Seattle – at any time of day, and in any kind of weather! and much more... More info in my post on the previous page ;) Find The Links To All My Mods And Liveries Here (in the gallery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) Buy operation arrowhead and you can download and fly the beta.:thumbup: I allready tried all CPs.;) It`s of course a change from Arma`s FMs, though no Vortex Ring yet; I can raise collective and climb without bother with power, altitude...; flying with 4 persons instead of 1 on board doesn`t change anything etc...(all on expert settings, of course). The comming Beta may be different (I pre-ordered), who knows yet. No dev care to answer in my "Pants down...How you calculate the flight model?" thread yet.:suspect: Edited September 22, 2011 by EagleEye Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRFirefox Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 EagleEye Maybe, no pants down, cause the FM is too short.....:smilewink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) Just like what Mr Charles said when he posted this pic on the BI forums That pic is like a conglomeration of about 5 different helicopters, including Bell 412, 407, and 429. That's why it bugs me so much, I guess...I don't know what they call it in-game, and it mostly looks like a 412...like mentioned previously it must be a licensing issue...*shrug*. I'm sure I'll still buy it, though. EDIT: Interesting thought...since that aircraft just looks similar to a Bell 412, perhaps the entire thing will be notional. In other words, BI can give it any kind of performance they want without having to stricly model a Bell 412, since it's obviously not a 412, it just sort of looks similar to one. The MD500, on the other hand, looks pretty exact, so I'd expect that one to be closer to the real thing. Of course, I have no evidence for any of this, I'm just rambling. Edited September 22, 2011 by AlphaOneSix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 EagleEye Maybe, no pants down, cause the FM is too short.....:smilewink: :lol: You`ve made my day.:thumbup: Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Ball Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 I wouldn't worry so much about the licensing issues. ToH really seems to follow the ArmA's way in terms of "moddability". As you might know the ArmA community is made of many talented modders and I know for a fact that many of them are looking forward to ToH. It offers a lot of new possibilities to them Just take a look at what NodUnit and Franze are creating for ArmA (an infantry based game!). And now imagine what they could achieve in a proper heli sim Pylons elevation : Still worried ? ;) Find The Links To All My Mods And Liveries Here (in the gallery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Still worried ? ;) Well if what you're saying is that the community can introduce mods of specific aircraft with detailed fligh models and systems specific to that aircraft, with a decent degree of realism (different for everyone but you get the idea) then no, I'm not worried at all. Also, my idea of "decent level of realism" can change based on what system is involved. In other words, I don't care at all if the radar is modelled perfectly on an AH-64D Longbow, but I would expect the nose to turn to turn to the right when the collective is raised, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I seriously doubt ToH will have really advanced flight models. Think somewhere between ArmA2's flight model and DCS being closer to the middle rather than closer to DCS. For all intensive purposes, think of it as a "Sim-Lite" If you're wanting total realism, then wait for the next DCS. If you can be happy with a sim-lite to have fun with, then it should be a good purchase. It'll also be interesting to see what the modders do altho one must remember that they cannot mod the engine itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empeck Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Honestly, I'm more interested in gameplay and variety of missions than DCS level flight dynamics. While I love Black Shark and play DCS a lot, it's limited to ground attack only. I believe Take On will be a fresh look at helicopter simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element1108 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Honestly, I'm more interested in gameplay and variety of missions than DCS level flight dynamics. While I love Black Shark and play DCS a lot, it's limited to ground attack only. I believe Take On will be a fresh look at helicopter simulations. I agree fully, i won't by any means complain if the FM are dcsevel, but definitly not expecting them to be. The concept of this game is interesting enough for me to forgive any "gamey" elements that may come with the package. My view on fidelity remains high, but I don't expect every developer to walk the same line when it comes to fligh sims. Light sims hold a very special place in my heart and always will. :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Ball Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) 4 Gameplay vids of the Beta ! (thanks a lot to BoboCZ far sharing these info!) Edited September 23, 2011 by Eight Ball Find The Links To All My Mods And Liveries Here (in the gallery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigen Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I keep expecting Morpheus to come jumping out everytime i see a chopper fly past a glass skyscraper 1080 ti, i7700k 5ghz, 16gb 3600 cl14 ddr4 oc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigen Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It does look amazing and i cant wait to get rocking on sling loads, i bet its going to eat my 6970 alive tho and even worse when putting 3d on, perhaps time for another one, just upgraded to 5x1 too (amazing) 1080 ti, i7700k 5ghz, 16gb 3600 cl14 ddr4 oc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassata Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I just hope they get the sounds right. That's huge imo. Don't know if this has been posted: ARiwDAV8Tjk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Ball Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Well Yoyo/Rafikst (the guy who did those vids) said the performance were good. Don't know about his rig tho... More videos ! Find The Links To All My Mods And Liveries Here (in the gallery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchesterdelta1 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 New gameplay video: Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element1108 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Building reflections are very nice. Edited September 30, 2011 by element1108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Lookin good! Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywoody Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Just pre ordered mine today! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://WWW.VFA-113.COM ________________________ Win 8.1 i5-3570 3.4ghz-Trackir5-TM Warthog - Pro-Saitek Combat Rudders-Viso 43" 4k" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLronin Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Well done! All of the EDs should fly together once the beta is released to analyze the multiplayer code a bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunkskimo Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Well done! All of the EDs should fly together once the beta is released to analyze the multiplayer code a bit. i predict arma2 style choppy lag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succellus Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Its really looking to be promising ... I m each time more interested. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLronin Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 i predict arma2 style choppy lag Thats the most feared bug for me. I hope they sorted this one out. I could never beleive that most of the arma 2 players accepted that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLronin Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Anyone found a way to download preorder beta? It´s 4th of octobre. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runibl Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Expected at around 1600 GMT. Pre-order beta release is planned for 1600 GMT today unless something goes really wrong. quoted from their forum. Runi. "IceCat" Printable A5 F/A-18C Checklist Win 10 Pro 64bit, ASUS Maximus XI Hero, Intel Core I7 9700K @4.7 - 4.9 GHz, Nvidia Asus GeForce GTX 1080TI 11Gb, G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-3200 C16 DC - 32GB (2x(2x8Gb)), Samsung 870 NVME + Multiple Samsung 850 & 860 EVO SSDs, Dell P2414H & U2414H Monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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