Soul Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 I little off topic, I am definitely jealous of the real deal. That said, it was definitely a impressive performance and if anyone at that show got as excited as I did seeing the A-10C's performance, I bet they were at the recruiters station that afternoon. As, to what was dumping from the jet no clue here, it looked like it originated from just fwd of his tail and was centered, but as he rolled it seemed to be a little more off center. I guess a question I would have, if it is fuel dumping that close to the engines, does it pose a good risk of igniting?
EtherealN Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 You mean igniting due to the heat? I don't think that's awfully likely, but not sure. Here's some nice ignited fuel dumping though: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
celticcoho Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) I little off topic, I am definitely jealous of the real deal. That said, it was definitely a impressive performance and if anyone at that show got as excited as I did seeing the A-10C's performance, I bet they were at the recruiters station that afternoon. As, to what was dumping from the jet no clue here, it looked like it originated from just fwd of his tail and was centered, but as he rolled it seemed to be a little more off center. I guess a question I would have, if it is fuel dumping that close to the engines, does it pose a good risk of igniting? I agree, great Performance, The engines are High on the Hog, and he being inverted, also ignition for the engines is in side, with no afterburners!!! I can see no worries, unless he Flames out, which he did not!!:book: No Back Fire, so to speak!!!! Edited June 19, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
doright Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) Hmm?? There must be baffles to keep the fuel from sloshing around??or is it that is why you must TRIM the A/C all the time?;) The foam in the tank would take care of sloshing. Constant trim changes are due to constant airspeed changes. Venting fuel tanks in aircraft is a real pain in the neck. You don't want negative pressure on the tank because it would crumple like a can. That's bad. It's extremely bad if the crumpled skin also happens to be the wing or fuselage skin like in most civilian aircraft. Positioning the vent tubes so they work in the entire range of normal flight as well as ground attitudes is difficult, trying to get them to also vent in negative or zero g would be close to impossible. They also must be run so liquid fuel in the line won't block the venting for long. That is why there is a vent tank on the A10 so any fuel accumulated in the vent tubes can be drained back into the wing fuel tanks. Take a look at the fuel system diagram http://www.dcswiki.com/index.php?title=Fuel_system_(A-10)#Description. Given that the vent tank is the left (aft) fuseluge tank I would bet the the tank overboard is in the center of the aircraft were the liquid came out during the airshow manuever. Edited June 19, 2011 by doright added link. corrected left (fwd) to left (aft). 1
mooshim Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 I have a burning Q about the sound--Particularly, flybys. I wonder why our beloved sim doesn't have the sound of an approaching bird as is audible at 1:00 of this clip Again, not a gripe, just a Q. There must be a technical term for it (smth along the lines of the doppler effect?) It sounds like my mother scraping the pot for the last bit of tomato sauce, or something. (sorry, not very good at analogies). I love the sound in this sim... I just wonder whether it couldn't be improved even moreso. Didn't mean to go OT. But am dying to know about this. Cheers all, Moosh [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0"
Cali Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 If the A-10 vents fuel, then there is a major problem or fuel shop is doing an IFR check. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
lobo Posted June 19, 2011 Author Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) If the A-10 vents fuel, then there is a major problem or fuel shop is doing an IFR check. I think it's safe to assume they were not doing an IFR check during the demo... so that leaves a mechanical issue which is also what Paulrkii suggests earlier in this thread. Thanks for all the comments guys. I bet there was an interesting bit of discussion on the discrete freq between the safety observer and the demo pilot during this performance. The rest of the performance went as scripted. Edited June 19, 2011 by lobo** Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook current version 8D available here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/
Avilator Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 If the A-10 vents fuel, then there is a major problem or fuel shop is doing an IFR check. But the fuel system diagram shows the vent line going overboard. Also, in The Modern Hog Guide, it is noted that the overboard fuel vent is under the rear fuselage, between the engines. I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
lobo Posted June 19, 2011 Author Posted June 19, 2011 But the fuel system diagram shows the vent line going overboard. Also, in The Modern Hog Guide, it is noted that the overboard fuel vent is under the rear fuselage, between the engines. But why was it venting that much fuel out of that rear fuselage vent? Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook current version 8D available here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/
Rainmaker Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 But why was it venting that much fuel out of that rear fuselage vent? I would guess it had something to do with the sustained inverted flight. Could have just filled the pressure/vent line with gas...just my guess.
Cali Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 I think it's safe to assume they were not doing an IFR check during the demo... so that leaves a mechanical issue which is also what Paulrkii suggests earlier in this thread. Thanks for all the comments guys. I bet there was an interesting bit of discussion on the discrete freq between the safety observer and the demo pilot during this performance. The rest of the performance went as scripted. But the fuel system diagram shows the vent line going overboard. Also, in The Modern Hog Guide, it is noted that the overboard fuel vent is under the rear fuselage, between the engines. You guys both mistook what I was saying. I know where the A-10 vents fuel from, I worked on them for 6 years and have seen them vent. I was just saying if it is venting fuel then you have a serious problem. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Soul Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 You mean igniting due to the heat? I don't think that's awfully likely, but not sure. Here's some nice ignited fuel dumping though: Exactly what I was getting too, and in retrospect I think I answered my own question with a little more thought and reading. And nice vid! :thumbup:
lobo Posted June 20, 2011 Author Posted June 20, 2011 You guys both mistook what I was saying. I know where the A-10 vents fuel from, I worked on them for 6 years and have seen them vent. I was just saying if it is venting fuel then you have a serious problem. I know what you were saying Cali. It seems you and Paulrkii are saying the same thing. Which makes complete sense. :thumbup: Cheers Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook current version 8D available here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/
Cali Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 I know what you were saying Cali. It seems you and Paulrkii are saying the same thing. Which makes complete sense. :thumbup: Cheers Ok, love you man, in a non-homo way. :beer: i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
lobo Posted June 20, 2011 Author Posted June 20, 2011 Congrats, you've killed this thread man. lol :beer: Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook current version 8D available here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/
Cibit Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Congrats, you've killed this thread man. lol :beer: Not quite. Still time for a little bit more man love:music_whistling: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
Succellus Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Wasn t it just the pilot pee bag bursting out :D j/k.Nice thread. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
nscode Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 No, that gets gelatinized ;) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
lobo Posted June 20, 2011 Author Posted June 20, 2011 oh great, now Generation Kill's Fruity Rudy is in the thread... about an A-10 venting. How did this happen. LMAO Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook current version 8D available here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/
celticcoho Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) So, was the A10 venting, or:megalol: the pilot???? Think this one is over, lol:music_whistling: We must be talking TOP GUN There!!!!!Lmao Edited June 20, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
PhiXX Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Hog pilots would probably just leave their business in the pit, greasemonkeys will have to clean it up :D
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