Drone aircraft downed in Iran

[104th_Cobra]

They should buy some Kaspersky licenses..

The avionics virus story seems BS to me.

[winz]

@primus_TR

Your average airliner can fly a preprogrammed route and land itself with minimal pilot input. And they could for some time. In-fact some ILS landings require NO pilot input untill touchdown. Why do you think a high-tech drone would not be able to fly and land itself?

[MoGas]

I guess the "self destruct" is just too easy, there are for sure some rules what even the US or other countrys needs to follow, the drones still operate and fly in open space for civil traffic and over cities. Who wants to push the button for an explosion if they dont know where or what my get hit as well, by the parts of the drone.......?!

[Cali]

I guess the "self destruct" is just too easy, there are for sure some rules what even the US or other countrys needs to follow, the drones still operate and fly in open space for civil traffic and over cities. Who wants to push the button for an explosion if they dont know where or what my get hit as well, by the parts of the drone.......?!

 

 

Or they could have a button that erases everything like the F-16 has :D.

[primus_TR]

@primus_TR

Your average airliner can fly a preprogrammed route and land itself with minimal pilot input. And they could for some time. In-fact some ILS landings require NO pilot input untill touchdown. Why do you think a high-tech drone would not be able to fly and land itself?

 

 

Because it should be designed EXACTLY NOT to do that in the event of a malfunction. It is not a civilian airliner, it is a military UAV containing top secret technology operating over hostile territory. You don't want it to fall into the hands of your enemies (or friends even ;) ). I don't think this basic principle is omitted in its design.

 

And that is the reason why I don't buy the "It wasn't a headshot, I headbutted the bullet" argument :doh:

[MoGas]

Or they could have a button that erases everything like the F-16 has :D.

 

ya more like that, but the problem is, this avionics kill, or whatever, dosent destroy the stealth technology what is safe landed, if its not crashing.

[Boberro]

I guess the "self destruct" is just too easy, there are for sure some rules what even the US or other countrys needs to follow, the drones still operate and fly in open space for civil traffic and over cities. Who wants to push the button for an explosion if they dont know where or what my get hit as well, by the parts of the drone.......?!

 

Self destruction of all electronics (not just erasing data). Or full self destruction either on demand or in case of example entering wrong coordinates below X meters (we can then think if UAV is below eg. 50 meters and is within area of enemy coords it means it's been hijacked = boom.

[MoGas]

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/

 

look for "Iran UAV Will Not Expose Latest Technology" for some reason I cant copy and paste a direct link.

[Cali]

Seal Team 6.......just sayin.

[Snoopy]

Look at the pictures that have been released...why do we not see the gear, the drone Iran has looks fake to me...

 

Plus, If we're flying this drone in Afghanistan or any combat location you can be sure there is something more advanced we the public don't know about yet. The F-117 was kept a secret (at least it's actual looks) for what, almost 15 or so years.

[topol-m]

You have more advanced UAVs, take X-47B for example. It is undergoing tests currently and it's one of those pieces of technology you wouldn't want the potential adversaries to take their hands on. One of those in chinese hands would be pretty much a disaster for the US aviation industry. :)

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I guess the "self destruct" is just too easy, there are for sure some rules what even the US or other countrys needs to follow, the drones still operate and fly in open space for civil traffic and over cities. Who wants to push the button for an explosion if they dont know where or what my get hit as well, by the parts of the drone.......?!

And letting it fly without control until it runs out of gas, after which it may crush in populated area ....

 

Military drone flying over a country, without that country authorization, is already act of war. If something would be hit due to self distraction, it would be just a collateral damage in that military operation.

[159th_Viper]

Military drone flying over a country, without that country authorization, is already act of war....

 

I wouldn't be that melodramatic. There are UAV/UCAV's floating about just about everywhere over everyone......not to mention those that are/will be floating about at 65000ft and staying there for 5 years or so - It will accordingly be in a perpetual state of declaring war, all the while doing lazy circles and spying on everyone's every move :megalol:

 

Oh the Games People Play.

[Pilotasso]

And letting it fly without control until it runs out of gas, after which it may crush in populated area ....

 

Military drone flying over a country, without that country authorization, is already act of war. If something would be hit due to self distraction, it would be just a collateral damage in that military operation.

 

 

Spying has always been done with knowelege of opposing countries. Any country of enough size will employ its secret services on other countries. I dont see this being any different.

[SimFreak]

You have more advanced UAVs, take X-47B for example. It is undergoing tests currently and it's one of those pieces of technology you wouldn't want the potential adversaries to take their hands on. One of those in chinese hands would be pretty much a disaster for the US aviation industry. :)

 

What people don't understand, UAV is actually a small part of what you need to use it effectively. You still need satellites and ground equipment. Iran doesn't have shit in that department so the max they can do is line of site....which kind of defeats purpose of UAV.

[eagledeer]

Interesting article on the thing's usefulness to the Iran:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16162043

[leafer]

Tricia Helfer is vastly better than Ms "Fair and Balanced" on the left.

The thing is, I already saw the original reported in the link (Megyn) not the guy, and my comment still stands then. Her hair was different than above, all straggled a bit and she still had that loud mouth, wide eyed thing going on with her vacant stare reading every syllable off the Autocue. It probably tells her when to breath.

 

LOL

 

A drone talking about another drone. Only at FOX news.

[topol-m]

What people don't understand, UAV is actually a small part of what you need to use it effectively. You still need satellites and ground equipment. Iran doesn't have shit in that department so the max they can do is line of site....which kind of defeats purpose of UAV.

 

Iran might not have that but Russia does. And it's not just reverse engineering that we are talking about here, having this drone almost intact would allow extensive RCS studies and experiments to be conducted, testing different radar wavelengths against it for instance. Ultimately it contains valuable info that could be used for stealth and anti-stealth research. This aircraft is not an empty shell, a shape only, it's also materials, it's electronics, sensors, etc. It's not a secret that the US are ahead of everybody in UAV technology, that's why for countries currently developing such this drone would be a gold mine.

[159th_Viper]

It's not a secret that the US are ahead of everybody in UAV technology, that's why for countries currently developing such this drone would be a gold mine.

 

That's the thing - If they are so far behind the curve that this drone is actually in a position to help them in any significant way then there's nothing fundamental to worry about.

[topol-m]

That's the thing - If they are so far behind the curve that this drone is actually in a position to help them in any significant way then there's nothing fundamental to worry about.

 

This is not alien tech, you won't need hundreds of years to learn what you need from it, and looking at how new aircraft be it drones or manned are not popping up every year, but are projected to be in service for dozens of years, it would be wise not to give your tech so easily to others. ;)

[sobek]

This is not alien tech, you won't need hundreds of years to learn what you need from it

 

Maybe not hundred years, but if it takes you ten, that is already a long time.

[topol-m]

Maybe not hundred years, but if it takes you ten, that is already a long time.

 

more like 2

[sobek]

more like 2

 

We're talking Iran and not China (i think). :)

[159th_Viper]

This is not alien tech, you won't need hundreds of years to learn what you need from it, and looking at how new aircraft be it drones or manned are not popping up every year, but are projected to be in service for dozens of years, it would be wise not to give your tech so easily to others. ;)

 

Does not change the fact that the drone captured is 'yesterday's news' - that's the bottom line right there. An inconvenience? Most definitely. Goes without saying that the reasonable assumption is that they did not foresee this happening. Then again, we'll never know now will we. As I said before, a clever plant to facilitate nano-bot delivery will not surprise me in the least - Trojan Horse ring a Bell? :megalol:

 

Something to worry about? Most definitely not ;)

[topol-m]

We're talking Iran and not China (i think). :)

 

Oh Iran? 10+ :D