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PeterP

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Drop your opinion below....

 

or just simply PM JimMack or Wags (Both are producers)and ask them directly.

 

(Instead of a thread filled with rumours and a lot more of guessing - and I'm sure to be the first to do exactly this ...:) - because this thread is begging for it.)

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sinelnic

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What SDK?

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PeterP

PeterP

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What SDK?

 

Here you can have a first look :

Secret DCS SDK*

 

Ok- The SDK dosen't look really finished right now but it does the job quiet well and it is only a question of time when we have all tools together!:)

And as you can see in the "Mods" section of this forum, some people are using exactly this SDK with some great success up to now.

 

*SDK=Software Developer Kit

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Megagoth1702

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Here you can have a first look :

Secret DCS SDK*

 

Ok- The SDK dosen't look really finished right now but it does the job quiet well and it is only a question of time when we have all tools together!:)

And as you can see in the "Mods" section of this forum, some people are using exactly this SDK with some great success up to now.

 

*SDK=Software Developer Kit

 

 

Secret DCS SDK my ass ahahahahahaha, I laughed hard! :D Hahaha!

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WarthogSmurf

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And to fire the rumors (i couldnt resist srry)

 

Any third party would first have to look into sale figures to get onboard. Saying that FC is already longer the then the DCS series and i didnt see any SDK there. What I do see is mod with neveda map home made. So is a SDK actually needed ? BTW when is that nevada map ready it looks so more better then the Georgia map ....

kharne

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All I know is that I'd pay $50 for an Afghanistan or Iraq module for DCS A10, and so would everyone that I play with. New map, new missions and a campaign... I don't care who develops it!

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All I know is that I'd pay $50 for an Afghanistan or Iraq module for DCS A10, and so would everyone that I play with. New map, new missions and a campaign... I don't care who develops it!

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tintifaxl

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All I know is that I'd pay $50 for an Afghanistan or Iraq module for DCS A10, and so would everyone that I play with. New map, new missions and a campaign... I don't care who develops it!

 

+1

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Mt5_Roie

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There is something to be said here for have an SDK. In Xplane you can develop everything from airplanes, airfoils, airports, vehicles. So having an SDK that would allow us to create new areas, and maybe modify our aircraft would be cool.

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sinelnic

sinelnic

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Here you can have a first look :

Secret DCS SDK*

 

 

More like "Software Development Holes people keep finding and coming through and we can do nothing about! Help!" :helpsmilie: :megalol:

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Any third party would first have to look into sale figures to get onboard. Saying that FC is already longer the then the DCS series and i didnt see any SDK there. What I do see is mod with neveda map home made. So is a SDK actually needed ? BTW when is that nevada map ready it looks so more better then the Georgia map ....
The Nevada scenery you are talking about is being developed by ED, the Nevada scenery developed by people in the community is, as far as I know, binned.

 

An SDK with documentation on how things work, so people would'nt have to guess their way through it, would be very welcome. But I guess the SDK that Wags talked about some time ago was also subject to change :P

Speed

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As far as free SDK goes, well, it does seem that ED wants to move more in that direction. I believe I remember reading a forum thread a while ago where one of the developers said that they would like to do more to support modding. As it is right now, much of it is sorta a figure-it-out-for-yourself kinda deal, but that doesn't mean it's not possible or practical. One of the Lua files or readme files for the Lua files even wishes you a "Happy Hacking" from the ED team :D

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weasel75

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@USMC Trev: Oh come on, 3rd party does not need to mean "hack". Clean and well-defined interfaces to the core, some certificate before it is allowed worldwide, etc.

Actually, Android is doing quiet fine with that approach, and everybody is happy to contribute to it ;)

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amalahama

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@USMC Trev: Oh come on, 3rd party does not need to mean "hack". Clean and well-defined interfaces to the core, some certificate before it is allowed worldwide, etc.

Actually, Android is doing quiet fine with that approach, and everybody is happy to contribute to it ;)

 

Android - you precisely brought up the worst example. Android Market is a mess, and there have been several examples of infected programs with trojans

 

Regards!



weasel75

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So Android is the worst in the world?

How about the "closed" Windows? IIRC this is still the most manipulated OS in the world.

And even to Apple's iOS bad stuff happen(s)(ed) - and this being also a very closed market (people still tend to trust).

And yet, Android gained massively on iOS. Maybe, that "openness" is needed nowadays and for the future?

 

So: if bad things happen anyway (sooner or later a hole will show up), why not prepare for it and adjust your defences?

Learn from mistakes other companies did (and do)?

Build up trusted and certified partners?

Use "circles" of trust around the core?

 

That way, people can still decide what to run and risk.

For example: allow servers to run different levels of policies. If one server wants to go "totally safe" (haha! ;) ), then there are no modifications allowed whatsoever. One might introduce different levels of trust in between (certified level 1,2,...) with modified landscape, modified ground-units, modified AI-behaviour, new AI-planes, etc. and finally modified FM/planes (or any other reasonable order and level of modifications).

 

At the far end there are the Do-What-You-Like-Servers (not necessarily allowing everything, but still allowing a lot).

 

That way the players might choose what they are willing to risk in order to get their hands on new modifications and AddOns :)

 

Provide a solid and "sealed" core, let the world build around it.

 

It is just a dream .. but imagine "Valve" (the ones who came out with Half-Life) without allowing mods, without CounterStrike ... :D

 

But yeah, that is a completely different business-model ;)

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PeterP

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Hint ,Hint:

Paid For User Content Now Available

 

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(but please hold your horses... ;)

I think it is made in the first place for all that busy bees that creates campaigns and Training missions...

This has not to mean there is a SDK made available...

In the first place this will only ensure that some people will create a steady stream of high quality contend.)

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weasel75

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@USMCTrev: Oops, sorry, misunderstanding on my side :doh:

 

For the different content and mods: the first-person-shooters solved that by allowing servers to direct the client to a Download-URL (still from within the game) for missing maps or whatever.

It works if Mods/AddOns come in a nice packed file with a "unique" (okay, there is no true "unique" in the finite world of bits n bytes) checksum.

All required files are provided to any client connecting.

Then it is up to the players to allow such a download (or disconnect).

 

As soon as some new version is used, the checksum will change, so a new download can be triggered, and everybody is happy and can enjoy the "game" with an updated version of the Mod/AddOn:pilotfly:

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Speed

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amazing news. eagerly awaiting content

 

Not going to affect anything right now. It's for people who want to sell their mods/missions/skins/theaters/whatever. Not any kind of new tools for editing.

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Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.

luckybob9

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I am interested in the process. Does the uploader need to provide a license file and key/ validation program of some sort in their upload package? It might be tricky if each person uses their own copy protection method and the user needs several difference licensing/ key description programs/ etc. How does the maple flag stuff work? Does it decrypt the mission file on the fly or is it a one time decryption then you have the real .miz file to play around with, etc

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PeterP

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something official:

To confirm, ED is working on creating SDKs for third parties, including flight models. But it is taking time, and at the same we have to be working on new products. I do not think that if we made a post "DCS:XYZ has been delayed a year as we are creating SDKs" would be appreciated by the community!

source>>>http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1402069#post1402069

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