baltic_dragon Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Hey, a quick question about mavericks - today after 30 mins of having EO set to on, I got a warning message on my MFCD. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it reminded me about the EO status. Is there a safe time for which it can run and after that might stop working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jona33 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Hey, a quick question about mavericks - today after 30 mins of having EO set to on, I got a warning message on my MFCD. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it reminded me about the EO status. Is there a safe time for which it can run and after that might stop working? I believe there is eventually a limit in RL but I've never had Mav's on without using them to find out in sim. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTFDarkEagle Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 In real life the mav's sensors start degrading after 30 minutes. Not modelled as far as I know. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic_dragon Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 Funny..but at least the warning is modelled in - game. Thx for the replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFall Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1315665&postcount=5 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1185836&postcount=13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic_dragon Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1315665&postcount=5 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1185836&postcount=13 Lazy me, didn't search the forum properly. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So, even though you get the warning, it doesn't affect mav performance in the sim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodBorza Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So, even though you get the warning, it doesn't affect mav performance in the sim? Nope, in the sim it doesn't make any difference. In real life, the Maverick seeker head gets hotter and has to be shutdown to be cooled again. In this manner, the seeker will be sensitive enough to detect heat signatures. But, in the game, click the ACK button and carry on. This is an amazing sim! 'Nuff said!:pilotfly: YouTube: SloppyDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxi Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I occasionally have problems locking Mavericks on targets with an EO time larger than 45 minutes. Turning EO off and back on again solves the issue and the Maverick works fine again. So it seems that Maverick sensor overheating is somehow modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroflash Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) I keep my mavericks on most of the time. Sometimes in excess of two hours, and I've never had any issues with locking onto targets. Maybe someone could test this to make sure. (I would, but I wouldn't know where to start). Edited March 7, 2012 by Pyroflash If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echomanhce Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Cool thread - and helpful links...I wondered why there were so many options for setting the timing of when the Maverick EO clock starts ticking...after a time delay, a certain time from a certain waypoint, a certain distance from a waypoint, at a certain waypoint, etc, etc. I've gotten into the habit of turning them on early (usually during startup procedures while waiting for the navigation system to align) and leaving them on. Now I know why you wouldn't necessarily want to do that in a real A-10, and is actually a bad habit if one is attempting to emulate the habits of real A-10 pilots. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I keep my mavericks on most of the time. Sometimes in excess of two hours, and I've never had any issues with locking onto targets. Maybe someone could test this to make sure. (I would, but I wouldn't know where to start). It's actually quite simple. Ask the guy/gal who wrote the code. It is either in there or not, regardless of perceptions. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 So what is the typical cool down time in the real jet? (Hey, If it's classified, don't spill it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixBvo Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 So what is the typical cool down time in the real jet? (Hey, If it's classified, don't spill it.) As a rule of thumb, it takes twice as long for the electronics to cool down as it took to heat up. There you have it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPU i7 4970k @ 4.7 GHz RAM 16GB G.Skill TridentX 1600 ATX ASUS Z97-PRO DSU Samsung 850 PRO 256GB SSD for Win10, Plextor M6e 128GB SSD for DCS exclusively, RAID-1 HDDs GFX Aorus GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Xtreme Edition, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, 27" with G-Sync, Oculus Rift CV1 HID TM HOTAS Warthog + 10 cm extension, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR 5, Obutto oZone My TM Warthog Profile + Chart, F-15C EM Diagram Generator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostiken Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Hmmm.... I would imagine actual overheating would manifest on both in similar ways: visual artifacts, though I think the IR would be more affected - IR needs to be kept at a set temperature for sensitivity reasons, whereas a hot CCD usually just manifests as speckles and 'noise'. Still, I would imagine the CCD would be a little more tolerable of overtemp than the IR. Edited March 9, 2012 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I can see the IR mavericks having this problem, but why would the TV ones? IR needs to be temperature-stable for sensitivity purposes... No space for cooling, just like any other computer, with no vents. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostiken Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 No space for cooling, just like any other computer, with no vents. Edited my post: I forgot that it's not really just 'TV', but specifically a CCD which even in your digital camera do overheat. PS: Vents? It's in a -20C airstream! Cut a hole in the side! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejjvid Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Edited my post: I forgot that it's not really just 'TV', but specifically a CCD which even in your digital camera do overheat. PS: Vents? It's in a -20C airstream! Cut a hole in the side! :D If you do that, you probably end up with a lot of condensation instead ;) i7 8700K | GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB RAM | 500GB M.2 SSD | TIR5 w/ Trackclip Pro | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder [sigpic]http://www.132virtualwing.org[/sigpic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depth Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Make parts of the body copper and use the wings as cooling fins? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaponz248 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 So what is the typical cool down time in the real jet? (Hey, If it's classified, don't spill it.) Depends how slow the AMMO driver is while dilevering a new AGM to the loaders............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaponz248 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Edited my post: I forgot that it's not really just 'TV', but specifically a CCD which even in your digital camera do overheat. PS: Vents? It's in a -20C airstream! Cut a hole in the side! :D LOL holes would affect the flight path once fired....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Maybe a ramjet type configuration (slit vents in front), then auto-close when firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostiken Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Incidentally, does anyone know what the IR Mavericks use to cool the IR aperture? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado_Pilot Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I could only make an educated guess, but i think it would be some gases like argon or helium or similar. Read about that they were used for cooling on other missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaponz248 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I am not sure, While argon is used to cool Aim-9 with the exception of the 9x. I THINK the Mav is cooled my the outside air passing by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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