Rikus Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Moving FC2 planes to the DCS environment and call it FC3 it´s OK, awesome, but thats all. I think put in the same sim FC2 planes and DCS is not the way, there are different prodcuts, the level of simulation from one is far far away from other. I read it from ED people "each sim have different market" so they are giving me the reason. But, the key is, that is more easy to sell FC2 planes in DCS with DCS planes. Greetings Maybe you don't care for that, but I personally find it more interesting to fly the Russian planes than whatever US plane will come with the DCS:Next Some friends and me, are going to fly again BMS till next DCS Jet come, so we wont buy FC3 and for sure P51. People of others squads i know will do the same. The time of buying BS download version, later box version, then A10 download, then A10 in other language ENDS. We were waiting for DCS Jet and look, "early stages but buy P51 and FC3" We don´t want FC3 and P51, we want DCS Jet, you see it in the poll. We support ED a lot and now we feel like idiots Me too
Grimes Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 My best guess is they are hoping for a FSX type of environment where you have different levels of simulations that can all be "plugged into" the same game together. It was sort of cool to have Ka-50s with FC2, simply for the novelty of "omg humans NOT in a Ka-50" however the Ka-50 thrown into the fire of FC is simply not that fun unless you have a squad of fighters protecting you. Hopefully this time around we will see abit more variety in the servers offering single 'brands' along with those that have a mix of everything. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Double_D Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Moving FC2 planes to the DCS environment and call it FC3 it´s OK, awesome, but thats all. I think put in the same sim FC2 planes and DCS is not the way, there are different prodcuts, the level of simulation from one is far far away from other. I read it from ED people "each sim have different market" so they are giving me the reason. But, the key is, that is more easy to sell FC2 planes in DCS with DCS planes. Greetings Some friends and me, are going to fly again BMS till next DCS Jet come, so we wont buy FC3 and for sure P51. People of others squads i know will do the same. The time of buying BS download version, later box version, then A10 download, then A10 in other language ENDS. We were waiting for DCS Jet and look, "early stages but buy P51 and FC3" We don´t want FC3 and P51, we want DCS Jet, you see it in the poll. We support ED a lot and now we feel like idiots Me too Do you need a napkin to cry in...because you didn't get the DCS-jet you were hoping for... Some friends and meproper grammar is " Some Friends and I ":music_whistling: Edited April 12, 2012 by Double_D 1 [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel
Bearitall Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Do you need a napkin to cry in...because you didn't get the DCS-jet you were hoping for... proper grammer is " Some Friends and Myself ":music_whistling: Correct in all accounts...:music_whistling: Better yet said...Life is a bitch... Edited April 12, 2012 by Bearitall www.virtualtuskegeeairmen.com
Double_D Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Either way, if DCS did produce a Russian/US jet...wouldn't bother me one bit.. I would still continue here..and not whine about not getting the P-51D Mustang...I would just get the A2A Accu-Simm P-51D Mustang...and not hold a grudge against DCS for not making the P-51D Mustang..I consider it a bonus that they decide to develop it.. Besides the Russian/US jet is on its way..:music_whistling: And yes " Life is a Bitch " So stop whinning...Remember this is a " Wish List " not a Whine List.... Edited April 12, 2012 by Double_D [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel
Daze Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Do you need a napkin to cry in...because you didn't get the DCS-jet you were hoping for... proper grammer is " Some Friends and Myself ":music_whistling: You spelt grammar wrong... :megalol: Also, "some friends and I" would make more sense, "some friends and me" also makes perfect sense in some contexts. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike.
Dudikoff Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Moving FC2 planes to the DCS environment and call it FC3 it´s OK, awesome, but thats all. Generally, I would agree with you, if not for this DCS core system change where I hope the FC planes would integrate into. I don't won't to buy a new FC edition each year mainly for the Mission Editor and slight graphics upgrade. Some friends and me, are going to fly again BMS till next DCS Jet come, so we wont buy FC3 and for sure P51. People of others squads i know will do the same. OK, but some other people are not that interested in flying the F-16 and would prefer to fly the Russian planes. The people who play the MP in squads are not the only ED customers. What if the DCS: Jet turns out to be the F-16 and you find out that you prefer flying it in BMS because of the campaign and theaters? Would you still buy it? The time of buying BS download version, later box version, then A10 download, then A10 in other language ENDS. We were waiting for DCS Jet and look, "early stages but buy P51 and FC3" I agree to a point, but I hope the FC3 will be the last edition in that regard. We don´t want FC3 and P51, we want DCS Jet, you see it in the poll. We support ED a lot and now we feel like idiots. Me too The poll is useless in that regard since there are no multiple choices - it doesn't say that those who would pay for DCS: Next, won't pay for FC3. Regarding your disappointment, maybe you expected too much in too small a time-frame for a small team the ED has. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Kuky Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 DCS P-51 is not a Bonus at all, it's next module... IF we get DCS fighter AND DCS P-51 it would be a Bonus... and if you think DCS Fighter Jet is comming... don't hold your breath for it... you will suffocate a million times by the times it comes out... I have given up hope in seing something of modern fighter jet in DCS for good couple years... it just won't happen PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Double_D Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 You spelt grammar wrong... :megalol: Also, "some friends and I" would make more sense, "some friends and me" also makes perfect sense in some contexts. correct in " grammar "...OOOps.." some friends and me " not in this sense it does..and yes that is another way " some friends and I " [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel
Double_D Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 DCS P-51 is not a Bonus at all, it's next module... IF we get DCS fighter AND DCS P-51 it would be a Bonus... and if you think DCS Fighter Jet is comming... don't hold your breath for it... you will suffocate a million times by the times it comes out... I have given up hope in seing something of modern fighter jet in DCS for good couple years... it just won't happen I do believe the DCS-P51D is still a bonus..they didn't have to develop it at all...they could've just stayed with the Modern Jets..and current conflicts..but they are giving us a bonus (DCS-P-51D) for others who wish to fly vintage aircraft..:thumbup: [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel
Kuky Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 No mate.. Bonus means you are getting SOMETHING and as an EXTRA P-51 ;) P-51 is on its own and nothing else is being released. You need to check your definition of Bonus PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Cali Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 I do believe the DCS-P51D is still a bonus..they didn't have to develop it at all...they could've just stayed with the Modern Jets..and current conflicts..but they are giving us a bonus (DCS-P-51D) for others who wish to fly vintage aircraft..:thumbup: All the time spent working on the P-51 could have been put into some patches, the next DCS model and FC3. That would have been better time spent then working on the P-51, that's just what I think. And it's not a bonus, read Kuky's post above this #115....that's what a bonus is. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 All the time spent working on the P-51 could have been put into some patches, the next DCS model and FC3. That would have been better time spent then working on the P-51, that's just what I think. And it's not a bonus, read Kuky's post above this #115....that's what a bonus is. All the time working on FC3 and DCS next could could be put into making more DCS:FL aircraft. That would be better time spent then working on stupid jets, that's just what I think. :P Anyway, they are not mutually exclusive. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Kuky Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 You didn't just say "Stupid Jets" did you ??? :shocking: PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Cali Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Yes he did! i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Kuky Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 That's just not right :disgust: (I know he was joking) :music_whistling: PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
159th_Viper Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Not everyone is eagerly awaiting DCS: Fast- Jet. I'm personally waiting for DCS: Toad, or anything Russian for that matter, whilst others are waiting for the Mustang. You can also be certain that when DCS: Jet is announced that there are gonna be moaners then too.......Why bother attempting to please everyone when you know it's doomed at the outset? No, best is to carry on doing what one does best, and judging by the track record to date, ED/TFC are nicely on track. 1 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Sov13t Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 I love these type of threads... I would pay my money for sending goats to a random family in africa, donations to religious fanatics that will kill other religious fanatics and film it, personal favorite "saving the world" oh and of course hookers, drugs, alcohol and rock n' roll :punk: Looking forward to grilling P-51s with my afterburners on the ramps... #wtf 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis
sobek Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 You didn't just say "Stupid Jets" did you ??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk :) 1 Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Kuky Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Looking forward to grilling P-51s with my afterburners on the ramps... #wtf exactly :thumbup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk :) That was funny as hell :D PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
empeck Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Not everyone is eagerly awaiting DCS: Fast- Jet. True. I'm waiting for Mi-24... :music_whistling:
Phantom88 Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 I refuse to shave or cut my hair until a High Fidelity DCS AH-64D LongBow Apache is released in open beta:megalol: Patrick
msalama Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 True. I'm waiting for Mi-24... plus one The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
Irregular programming Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 DCS P-51 is not a Bonus at all, it's next module... IF we get DCS fighter AND DCS P-51 it would be a Bonus... and if you think DCS Fighter Jet is comming... don't hold your breath for it... you will suffocate a million times by the times it comes out... I have given up hope in seing something of modern fighter jet in DCS for good couple years... it just won't happen We are given an extra airplane as a part of the development process towards the next dcs fighter. That you don't wish to understand that doesn't mean it's less true. And it doesn't mean that it's not a bonus airplane something that was partly developed for free.
Esac_mirmidon Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Great post Air Wolf, very kind with the foreign community, taking in count that a lot of us don´t have english as our native language. Maybe i can borrow you a napkin when you try to speak in spanish. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
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