BuzzU Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I never steal games/sims. In good faith I bought the downloaded version of FC when it came out. I understand companies have to protest their product, but I never expected to get the stink end of the stick for being honest. I might be guilty of wasting some of the activations, but I was under the impression that you could ask for more when you used them up. I paid fo FC, and I should be able to use it for as long as I wish. I've never had to pay twice for any game/sim, and i'll be damned if i'll do it now. I wrote asking for more activations, and this is what I got back for an answer. This is no way to treat your customers. You make an honest customer suffer for the thieves in this world? You've lost my business for good! Dear Pete, I’m afraid you need to buy new serial number on our site. Regards, LockOn.ru administrator Kate Perederko webmaster@lockon.ru Buzz
Ghostrida9 Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 damn thatz really fu**** up, I heard that u ain't got tha problem when u order the cd version, then u don't need all this serial nr bull****. I ordered it and i hope that its right. Eternal RAF Gütersloh Airbase Project Now or Never
Force_Feedback Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 No, when having the cd version you can wait for 3 minutes until the game runs, while experiencing heavy stutters in Windows itself (the mouse cursor stutters, mp3 playback stutters) :( I have both the CD and download version, and I don't know which is better, because they both cause these stutters (Starforce I guess, as it's only stuttering when it's bitching for the cd) But, since there is no other way of running the game, we all have to deal with it. (and the occasional SF warnings with the DL version which you get after your system has hung) Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
GGTharos Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ED offered tools for saving your SF keys so that you wouldn't blow activations. Why didn't you use them? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Cosmonaut Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I've always had my doubts about a software company giving out more keys on request from the purchaser, which is why I waited for the CD version to be released.. Although I don't know the full story I thought customers were assured that they would get more activations seeing as they purchased on the grounds that "only significant hardware changes would require you to use up an activation".. On the bases of that turning out to be untrue then I would have thought that it would've been made easy for customers to be allocated more keys once proof of purchase could be established, even though they provide a reg back up program on this site.... Hmmm sounds like you got the raw end of the deal.. isn't there anyone here at ED that can help Pete out and renew his faith? As for the CD version well there isn't any activations but you must keep the CD in the drive while playing .. and although I haven't experienced any stuttering like Force_Feedback I do experience the occasional delay in SF checking the CD and allowing the game to run.. Does that piss me off?? Hell yeah, big time but I have a feeling that it irritates ED as well which might be one of the reason why you will only have to place the FC CD in the drive once a week when 1.1 is released. Cozmo. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction. CDDS Tutorial Version 3. | Main Screen Mods.
GGTharos Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ED increased the number of activations to 15. That's 13 more activations than Windows gives you. If you do the activations manually, you'll have 15, so if it's only the automatic ones that you've wasted, I suggest you do the registration manually, and save the keys. If youw asted 15 activations ... uhm, what were you doing? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Guest IguanaKing Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 If he already paid for the game, that one copy should be his for as long as he wishes to use it. ED, at the very least, should realize the diversity of computer skills among their customers and give the guy one more chance anyway. Now...if he made repeated requests of this type, I could understand cutting him off, but if its just once...well...ED is only hurting themselves by not being a little more lenient. As the old saying goes "You should never try to get rich off of one guy". I've got a DL version of UVS 6 on my computer and I had a hard-drive crash. Well...like a dumba**...I hadn't written my serial number or activation code down anywhere, so I exchanged a few e-mails with one of their customer service reps in which I established my identity with them and they verified that I had, in fact, made the purchase. Guess what? They provided me with a new serial number and activation code, and even a new download link in case I hadn't backed it up before the crash (which I hadn't). THAT is the way to do business, it is completely screwed up to protect yourself from the bad guys by dumping on the good ones.
Guest IguanaKing Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ED increased the number of activations to 15. That's 13 more activations than Windows gives you. If you do the activations manually, you'll have 15, so if it's only the automatic ones that you've wasted, I suggest you do the registration manually, and save the keys. If youw asted 15 activations ... uhm, what were you doing? What do you mean Windows only gives you two activations? That is absolutely false. Your activations with Windows are based on a weighted voting system which comes from your detected hardware. If you don't make a significant hardware change between reinstallations, you can activate over and over again. I know this because I have done it, and I've got the OEM version, which isn't nearly as lenient as the retail version.
Dusty Rhodes Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ED increased the number of activations to 15. That's 13 more activations than Windows gives you. If you do the activations manually, you'll have 15, so if it's only the automatic ones that you've wasted, I suggest you do the registration manually, and save the keys. If youw asted 15 activations ... uhm, what were you doing? What does it matter how many activations. He bought the sim. PERIOD. Why should he have to buy more? That is a biased remark, just like many of your remarks are anymore GG. You are defending the indefensible! Sad. Dusty Rhodes Play HARD, Play FAIR, Play TO WIN Win 7 Professional 64 Bit / Intel i7 4790 Devils Canyon, 4.0 GIG /ASUS Maximus VII Formula Motherboard/ ASUS GTX 1080 8 GB/ 32 Gigs of RAM / Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / TrackIR 5 / 2 Cougar MFD's / Saitek Combat Pedals/ DSD Button Box FLT-1
suntrace1 Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 We need to clear this up: did we purchase the game or just leased it? ED, any comments?
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 He bought the sim. PERIOD. Why should he have to buy more? There isn’t a piece of software on your machine that you purchased to own! All that you purchased is a LICENSE to use that piece of software on your piece of hardware! And you had to agree to EULA before installing that software! No, he should not have to buy more licences! That is why we were given 15 activation, which should thake care of vast majority of the customers! How he blew those 15 activations, that is something that he needs to explain. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
suntrace1 Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 He doesn't need to explain anything! He purchased the right to use the software, not own it, but nowhere was cleary said, that it has limited usage. If it has any limits, it's more like a demo. I've got tons of programs installed on PC, not one has a limited usage option. If that was the case, i and many other people wouldn't buy FC. In a way, i could also say, that if that's the case, then i was mislead by ED. Anyway, this is no way to treat people, especially the ones that suppoerted ED by directly giving them money! That was in many cases the reason, why we purchased it on-line! Before i purchased FC i and many others clearly asked if there are any limits to using it, especially with all the activation stuff goin' on. We didn't get not one clear answer from ED. Now it's time to clear the mess up, once and for all. And i don't expect answer from you,Veljko or GG, i and many others want it from ED, clearly said: did we purchase or just leased it?
Alfa Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 WHAT!!! This is the final straw for me also. This is only the latest in a long line of cluster**cks that this excuse of a software developer has made. I am not going to stay here long enough for this to happen to me. I am going to deinstall everything and toss it in the trash. Never will I buy crap from this firm again. I feel for you Pete. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask. Of course be prepared for the Fanboi lashback. Those brown noses like to hunt in packs. Write one more post like that and you are out of here for good! :mad: - JJ. JJ
ALDEGA Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 LockOn.ru administrator Kate Perederko webmaster@lockon.ru You contact a website administrator about a sales issue?
Trident Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I agree that there should not be a requirement to pay a second time, 15 activations or not. There just isn't any good reason for it to be that way, not to mention that ED reportedly told people to contact them if they ran out of activations and they'd see what they could do. Now, originally they stated that you'd have to pay again, but that statement was apparently revoked. Now, contacting the webmaster might be part of the problem, maybe were just looking at a misunderstanding. I certainly hope so.
Dudikoff Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ED increased the number of activations to 15. That's 13 more activations than Windows gives you. /QUOTE] How do I get these 15 activations? 3 months ago I blew my second activation and it said 3 activations left. How do I get the rest? i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Kenan Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 It's been like, 6 months (or something like that) since I downloaded FC from lockon.ru. Since that time, I reinstalled it only two or three times and I always used the registry tool to import all the neccessary game registration info into it. Never had anything to do with the Starforce activations. Of course, if it weren't for that reg. tool ED provided, well, who knows, maybe I could have used 3-4 activations or so. I would like to know though, if this reg tool would work if I reformatted my hard disk and reinstalled Windows? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Pilotasso Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 No, when having the cd version you can wait for 3 minutes until the game runs, while experiencing heavy stutters in Windows itself (the mouse cursor stutters, mp3 playback stutters) :( I have both the CD and download version, and I don't know which is better, because they both cause these stutters (Starforce I guess, as it's only stuttering when it's bitching for the cd) But, since there is no other way of running the game, we all have to deal with it. (and the occasional SF warnings with the DL version which you get after your system has hung) I have the CD version too. The stuttering only hapens during CD check. wich only lasts for about 15 seconds. Be patient dude, besides with the patch youll need to check CD only once a week. On the download version: Im glad I waited for CD version. Bad decision on ED's part for a limited activation standar with registry tricks wich noobs will probably miss. Its was a bad experince for those but I think this serves a lesson for what not to do in the future. Im awating to see what ED brings us in the next product (not 1.2) with honest interest. .
RvEFoxteR Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ED increased the number of activations to 15. That's 13 more activations than Windows gives you. If you do the activations manually, you'll have 15, so if it's only the automatic ones that you've wasted, I suggest you do the registration manually, and save the keys. If youw asted 15 activations ... uhm, what were you doing? Im afraid that is not the case GG; when I first installed FC, about a month after the addon came out I had 5 activations and I use the first one for the first instalation of course. I really thought I'll get those promised 15 activations in the first place but a sqd mate of mine told me that if I activate the game manually i'll get them...meaning with the new installation and manual activation procedure I would have 13 activations left...I'm afraid not. When i did that I had 3 left even to I didn't activate it automaticly. Happened the exact same thing to another sqd mate of mine, so nobody can say it's only an issue with my account [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RvEFoxteR Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 It's been like, 6 months (or something like that) since I downloaded FC from lockon.ru. Since that time, I reinstalled it only two or three times and I always used the registry tool to import all the neccessary game registration info into it. Never had anything to do with the Starforce activations. Of course, if it weren't for that reg. tool ED provided, well, who knows, maybe I could have used 3-4 activations or so. I would like to know though, if this reg tool would work if I reformatted my hard disk and reinstalled Windows? It would, I did the same thing once, worked fine for me..just make sure u dont delete that registry file as well with the format lol ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
bflagg Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I've been having PC problems for the last few months, and am getting tired of reinstalling lockon...(from CD), amongst other games... Can I backup a reg key and merge it back so I don't have to go thru that reinstall routine? (I install all my games to a different drive/partition than my c: ) Thanks, Brett
tflash Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ED increased the number of activations to 15. That's 13 more activations than Windows gives you. If you do the activations manually, you'll have 15, so if it's only the automatic ones that you've wasted, I suggest you do the registration manually, and save the keys. If youw asted 15 activations ... uhm, what were you doing? Exactly what I was thinking also: I got 15 activations; seems to me a little difficult to waste them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Guest ruggbutt Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 If that's the case then 1.2 is a no purchase for me.
S77th-GOYA Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 It wouldn't matter if Buzz used up 50 registrations. That's not the point. Hasn't StarForce served its purpose already? I doubt there are very many sales out there that would be lost if the protection was removed.
S77th-Paralyzer Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I would like to know though, if this reg tool would work if I reformatted my hard disk and reinstalled Windows? No it does not.
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