Maverick Stations

[Xeno426]

Apologies if this has been asked before, but after several forum searches nothing came up.

 

How many Mavericks can the real A-10 hold? The game allows a maximum of 6 on hardpoints 3 and 9, but several other sources I've read (like this one) claim as many as 10. Is this accurate? If not, where can I find more accurate (citable) sources?

 

I'm willing to bet ED did their homework on this, and that the 6 maximum is accurate, but I'd like something I can cite.

[TurboHog]

If I recall correctly six mavericks are already unrealistic.

 

The inner Mavericks damage the wheels in real life. On most missions the A10C's carry two mavericks each, assuming that they can complete their mission when using all their mavericks together.

 

I do not know anything about the possibility to use other hardpoints. If you can connect the lau-88 or lau-117 to other hardpoints it will work. I don't know if this is true.

 

EDIT:

 

Page 267 and 268 in the flight manual show that only stations 3 and 9 can take the launchers needed for AGM-65's.

Edited May 14, 2012 by TurboHog

[badger66]

Eemmm ..... the above document is published by the air force , dont you think they should know ?

 

What Maverick can travel 45 klicks ?

 

It has nothing to do with connecting a Lau to the hardpoint , as the pylon attachment lugs are the same , however , it has to do with , are the hardpoints wired up to deal with extra mavs .

 

QUOTE ::::: The A-10 can carry up to ten Maverick air-to-surface missiles. The Raytheon Maverick AGM-65 missile uses a variety of guidance systems, including imaging infrared guidance and warheads, including a high-penetration, 57kg conical-shaped charge warhead. Range is more than 45km. The A-10 can also carry the Sidewinder air-to-air missile, which is an all-aspect short-range missile with maximum speed over Mach 2.

Edited May 14, 2012 by badger66

[Hoozin]

Apparently the LAU-117 Dual Mode launcher is 1760 compliant, implying that it could go on any 1760 hardpoint, of which the A-10 has 6. I don't know if additional wiring or interfacing is required in addition to the 1760 interface though.

 

Disclaimer: I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.

[ZMEY-HS-]

...The game allows a maximum of 6 on hardpoints 3 and 9...

 

LoL, 1 day i saw a guy...

[badger66]

Apparently the LAU-117 Dual Mode launcher is 1760 compliant, implying that it could go on any 1760 hardpoint, of which the A-10 has 6. I don't know if additional wiring or interfacing is required in addition to the 1760 interface though.

 

Disclaimer: I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.

 

Ha haaa ..... at least your honest !!! :megalol:

 

Well , the tracking info has to get from the avionics into the mav , so the required looms would have to be installed for them to receive the info .

[Eddie]

Eemmm ..... the above document is published by the air force , dont you think they should know ?

 

No it isn't.

 

Whoever did write the article doesn't have a clue what they are talking about, it's absolutely FULL of errors. In fact it looks like the source for the article was whatever the author could find on Google.

 

Put simply as a reference piece for A-10C capabilities, the article in question is less than worthless.

Edited May 14, 2012 by Eddie

[badger66]

Whoever did write the article does have a clue what they are talking about

 

So , he does or he doesnt ..... make your mind up time Eddie :music_whistling:

[Cholerix]

What about the E-Version? It is laser-guided so there would be no additional wiring required.

However this is very unlikely as it is only used by the USMC.

[Eddie]

..... It is laser-guided so there would be no additional wiring required.

 

And how do you come to that conclusion?

 

Hint: You're wrong.

[Cholerix]

And how do you come to that conclusion?

 

Looks like there is no use in arguing with you about that :D

The missle only needs a fire signal, everything else can be done by the missile itself. This was my idea.

[FreeFall]

Apologies if this has been asked before, but after several forum searches nothing came up.

 

This thread might give u some info:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1300115#post1300115

[badger66]

Looks like there is no use in arguing with you about that :D

The missle only needs a fire signal, everything else can be done by the missile itself. This was my idea.

 

Each hardpoint would require wiring , to accept a maverick . Not all hardpoints require the same wiring . Depends on whats being carried ..... otherwise you can get into weight issues , and looms as thick as your leg .

[Jimmytime]

I suspected ED didn't google the sources properly and this sim is a sham! Give me my 12 mavericks, the afterburner you obviously forgot, and some Amraams for crying out loud.

[joey45]

This isn't the HAWXs forum BTW...:pilotfly:

[Jimmytime]

This isn't the HAWXs forum BTW...:pilotfly:

 

LOL, just looked it up on youtube. Odd that they would only give you 40 Close Air Support III missles.

[badger66]

I suspected ED didn't google the sources properly and this sim is a sham! Give me my 12 mavericks, the afterburner you obviously forgot, and some Amraams for crying out loud.

 

Couple of AMRAAM's would be nice !!!

[Hamblue]

Here's a thread that discussed the mav loadouts.

 

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=223625

[Xeno426]

Anything more citable?

[cichlidfan]

Anything more citable?

 

You are kidding, right? This has been discussed and documented to death, more than once!! :doh::doh:

[Xeno426]

You are kidding, right? This has been discussed and documented to death, more than once!! :doh::doh:

I've been able to find no documentation, and forum posts hardly constitute "reliable sources".

[Eddie]

Anything more citable?

 

The sim itself is citable given that it is developed with support from the USAF, A-10C pilots and ground crew from the DTS that ED produced for the USAF.

 

Furthermore several members of the test team are invloved with the A-10C in the real world, and several others are involved with various other military aircraft types.

 

So put simply, yes the the can carry up to 6 AGM-65D or H missiles on LAU-88s. However in practice only 4 would be loaded on the LAU-88 although that in itself is pretty much moot as the LAU-88 is hardly used these days.

 

Up to 2 AGM-65G or K missiles can be carried on LAU-117 launchers, which is also the real world normal configuration for D and H model mavericks.

 

I've been able to find no documentation, and forum posts hardly constitute "reliable sources".

 

On this forum, depending on the poster, they are the most accurate and "citable" sources you'll ever find.

Edited May 14, 2012 by Eddie

[cichlidfan]

I've been able to find no documentation, and forum posts hardly constitute "reliable sources".

 

An A-10 crew chief's forum post isn't reliable enough for you?

[Xeno426]

An A-10 crew chief's forum post isn't reliable enough for you?

*sigh*

And I have proof of his credentials, how? This is a forum. Consider this: if I was going to write a university paper, what kind of source would a professor allow? Do you think the quote of a forum user by the name of "Burnout55th" would qualify? I somewhat doubt it.

I know this is pretty demanding, but when I want to provide proof for something, I like to be able to present something more substantial than "it's in a video game" or "a guy on some forums said so".

[213]

except you're not writing a university paper. :music_whistling:

 

also, if you're lying about credentials here, it's easily detectable.