Useless DCS vs. Wings of Prey Thread

[Shaderhacker]

I was talking to one of my co-workers today about how tough it is to even taxi in the P-51D simulator. I have A-10 and P-51D seems much harder to fly.

 

Anyway, he mentions that Wings of Prey is just as realistic as P-51D (in simulation mode). Is this true? Anyone who have both games care to comment?

 

-M

[Rusty_M]

Once you turn the realism settings up, it's no Ace Combat/HAWX WWII, but it's no DCS either IMO.

 

Caveat: I've never flown a real P-51 or any other aircraft :(

[cichlidfan]

Your friend should keep in mind that 'more difficult' does not necessarily equate to 'more realism'. Just because it is harder to fly than in game mode does not mean that it is realistic or correct, just harder.;)

 

EDIT: Have him try it for himself and then see what he has to say.

[Shaderhacker]

Wow. We have real snub for a Moderator. He changes my thread title to something ridiculous before moving it. Really? Are all vs. threads useless?

[cichlidfan]

Wow. We have real snub for a Moderator. He changes my thread title to something ridiculous before moving it. Really? Are all vs. threads useless?

 

When they are comparing a flight sim to a flying game, perhaps.;)

[Nate--IRL--]

Wow. We have real snub for a Moderator. He changes my thread title to something ridiculous before moving it. Really? Are all vs. threads useless?

 

It is a small in joke on the forums. Another thread with a similar topic descended into farce and the Mods did the same thing :)

 

Nate

[cichlidfan]

I must admit, WoP makes nice screen shot material!

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I was talking to one of my co-workers today about how tough it is to even taxi in the P-51D simulator. I have A-10 and P-51D seems much harder to fly.

 

Anyway, he mentions that Wings of Prey is just as realistic as P-51D (in simulation mode). Is this true? Anyone who have both games care to comment?

 

-M

 

tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about and smack him on the back of the head for me. :)

[WildBillKelsoe]

tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about and smack him on the back of the head for me. :)

 

He must've blown a gaasket thur...

[Rusty_M]

WoP is fun. I enjoy it on occasion. I know of one guy who I think may have migrated from the likes of WoP to DCS A10.

[104th_Crunch]

DCS could maybe look as good as WOP, but WOP does not have to sacrifice gpu and cpu cycles for much more advanced calculations for physics, avionics etc. There is nocomparison between the 2 when it comes to those things.

[EtherealN]

DCS could maybe look as good as WOP, but WOP does not have to sacrifice gpu and cpu cycles for much more advanced calculations for physics, avionics etc. There is nocomparison between the 2 when it comes to those things.

 

Indeed. A lot of people underestimate what has to happen "under the hood" to give simulations of DCS fidelity.

[cichlidfan]

Indeed. A lot of people underestimate what has to happen "under the hood" to give simulations of DCS fidelity.

 

What are you talking about? I flip a bunch of switches and the plane starts, how complicated can that be?:D

[leafer]

For bs and a-10c, not complicated at all with a cheat sheet. :D

[Bearcat]

WoP is what it is. IMO it s more than just a flying game... but from what I have seen so far .. just by looking at the inputs alone.. in terms of options and realism there isn't much to compare with DCS.. not even CoD .. because CoD does not yet have a Cadillac :smilewink:!!

 

WoP is not bad.. visually it is not bad at all.. but both CoD & DCS offer up equally and in most ways superior visual fare .. WoP runs great on my rig... and it is enjoyable to a point but IMO the developers shot themselves in the foot with no mission builder and the wonky way that you use skins.. any skin you use shows up on all the planes of the same type in the sim.. and don't get me started on that ridonkulous YP system.. but all in all it can be enjoyable if you (a genric you not directed at anyone in particular) look at it.. but it is hard to do if your nose is up n the air... It is better than IL2 in some ways, not so in most others and the only reason I mention IL2 is because it is still despite all this great kit here .. and on the horizon, at this juncture, pound for pound the overall best WWII combat sim on the market and I would bet the yardstick by which most sims will be measured to some degree or another for quite some time.

 

Back to WoP vs DCS By sheer virtue of options alone (as far as controls for the AC) DCS blows WoP out of the water.. Then look at the fact that this has a decent online component, the skinning aspect, the mission building aspect and the wide open nature of it as far as potential goes.. and it is a no brainer. I think that if 1C drops the ball with this whole thing they are doing with CoD and DCS takes this ball and even if they add a few more players.. the sim landscape will take on a different feel.. H@ll DCS already IMO has a lock on (no pun intended..) modern jets.... and by opening this up to 3rd party folks ... they may be on to something huge with this.. I know I'd jump all over it as long as I didn't have to spend $40 for one plane all the time.. I think RoF has a very nice method for doing that..

Edited May 15, 2012 by Bearcat

[cichlidfan]

I know I'd jump all over it as long as I didn't have to spend $40 for one plane all the time.. I think RoF has a very nice method for doing that..

 

A single DCS aircraft, especially the Ka-50 and A-10 are so much more complex from a programming standpoint alone that you can not compare the price to ROF. Nothing against the work that goes into ROF aircraft but every single bit of avionics, even a simple radio, adds considerable work.

[Total]

WoP is a sim-lite. It has its place in the sim world. Not everyone is willing to jump right into a high fidelity study sim. Games like WoP are good gateways for them.

 

There's not much out there that can compare to any of the DCS titles in that aspect.

[diveplane]

I was talking to one of my co-workers today about how tough it is to even taxi in the P-51D simulator. I have A-10 and P-51D seems much harder to fly.

 

Anyway, he mentions that Wings of Prey is just as realistic as P-51D (in simulation mode). Is this true? Anyone who have both games care to comment?

 

-M

 

well your co worker is far from correct, DCS is the most realistic simulation software out there, nothing else comes close. only thing wings of prey has is visuals nothing else and a basic flight model.

[6S.Duke]

I was talking to one of my co-workers today about how tough it is to even taxi in the P-51D simulator. I have A-10 and P-51D seems much harder to fly.

 

Anyway, he mentions that Wings of Prey is just as realistic as P-51D (in simulation mode). Is this true? Anyone who have both games care to comment?

 

-M

 

I come from a community of IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 and we are active in a lot of international campains yet. When WoP was released we have tested it, but we have noticed that it is arcade under more point of views like flight models, damage models and target visibility (you can't see the other aircrafts for far distances).

The graphic effects are fantastics and the landscapes are superb, but I prefer to define this game an arcade hardcore made for people who search a "semi-simulator" not challenging. :)

 

Instead DCS P-51D is fantastic! Good flight model united at e great engine management is that I want in a flight sim! I can't wait the release of the definitive version! :D

Edited May 16, 2012 by 6S.Duke