whitehot Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Yep, I happen to lose about 50% of my vikhrs to this issue. sometimes, right after launch, I try to give a little aileron/rudder input to keep the target and the missile inside the circle, and this seem to help somehow. Also, the impossibility to engage air targets seems more related to the fact that the shkval doesnt track them, at least for me. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i7 6700K @ 4.2, MSI M5 Z170A Gaming, NZXT X61 Kraken liquid cooler, PNY Nvidia GTX 1080 Founders Edition, 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 Mhz C15, samsung 840 evo SSD, CoolerMaster 1000W Gold rated PSU, NZXT Noctis 450 cabinet, Samsung S240SW 24' 1920x1200 LED panel, X-52 Pro Flight stick. W10 Pro x64 1809, NO antivirus EVER
Mustang Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I've been checking for this thoroughly recently during testing and i'm pretty certain this bug is resolved in time for the next version.
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I've been checking for this thoroughly recently during testing and i'm pretty certain this bug is resolved in time for the next version. It's not as far as I can tall, unfortunately. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Mustang Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 It's not as far as I can tall, unfortunately. Nate Hmm ok, well we can double check again later :)
Panzertard Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 You know when & where. ;) The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning
159th_Viper Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I cannot get them to miss and as a consequence cannot replicate. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 BS or Toad? Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Viper Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 BS or Toad? Toad. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Mustang Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Same here Nate, Su-25T testing yesterday and all my vikhr shots were perfectly aligning, unlike in 1.1.2.1 where you'd have to raise your nose more to aim the shot.
Boberro Posted June 10, 2012 Author Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) Can't wait to test it by myself ^^ I have other wonder - in LO1, LO2 Shkval snaps to targets automatically - in normal daylight - example 12:00 it will always lock (snap to) target from 15 km... seems to be scripted. In DCS: World this range decreased to about 11-12 km. It is bug or "feature"? Merkurij pod - how is it possible roads, railways ect. seem to be lightened up much more than vehicle? Edited June 10, 2012 by Boberro Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
159th_Viper Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 In DCS: World this range decreased to about 11-12 km. It is bug or "feature"? Well, Shkval range is about 15km for a building, 10km for a Fighter and 6km for a Helicopter so if you are referring to ground units then yeah, it's probably nothing to be concerned over. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Boberro Posted June 10, 2012 Author Posted June 10, 2012 IIRC it snaps to building (gate 60 meters) at same distance as to vehicle (gate 10 meters). I just think overall distance of "snap to object" thing has been decreased intentionally or more probably accidentally due to DS:W import process I guess. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Same here Nate, Su-25T testing yesterday and all my vikhr shots were perfectly aligning, unlike in 1.1.2.1 where you'd have to raise your nose more to aim the shot. I checked it during MP yesterday - I could get the Vihkr to fail quite easily when it shouldn't. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Viper Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 I checked it during MP yesterday - I could get the Vihkr to fail quite easily when it shouldn't. Nate How? With the Shark? I get them to fail if I intentionally put the plane outside launch parameters, but then that's no bug. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 How? With the Shark? I get them to fail if I intentionally put the plane outside launch parameters, but then that's no bug. No the Toad. I've never had a problem with the Ka-50 oddly. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Viper Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 How did you manage to induce failure? Closest I seem to have gotten was with the throttle retarded at approx 40% or less at low speed - that seems prone to Vikhr drop. Apart from that I'm out of ideas trying to replicate. All other times are fine when, as said, I'm within launch parameters. Still tinkering...... Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 See the attached track - 1st missile is a deliberate miss - the 2nd is the bug. EDIT:- Also on Mantis, No. 19457 Nate61826 - Vikhr inaccruate + avionics2.trk Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Viper Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 See the attached track - 1st missile is a deliberate miss - the 2nd is the bug.... Try again with your throttle not at Idle and see if you can replicate. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Try again with your throttle not at Idle and see if you can replicate. See the attached - the First missile displays the bug - ignore missiles after that they are ok or deliberately missed. Nate62635 - Vihkrs very inaccurate3.trk Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Viper Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Might have isolated a wee part of the problem - see Mantis note and tracks. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Boberro Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 See it is deeper problem than it seemed to be Oo Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Vikhr #1.trk doesn't appear to be playing back correctly. Can't replicate the Throttle problem myself. The way I replicate it is to keep the Target pipper in the upper half of the Vihkr reticule - see pic Nate Edited June 11, 2012 by Nate--IRL-- Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Capt_Haddock Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Aha! So I'm not the only one. This has been bugging me since the DCS World release. At least 50% of my Vikhrs drop to the ground. I had no problems in FC2. Fingers crossed it gets fixed!
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 In general keep the Target in the lower half of the Vihkr circle when firing and you will be ok. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Capt_Haddock Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 In general keep the Target in the lower half of the Vihkr circle when firing and you will be ok. Nate Will try. Thank you!
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