flankerzrj Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Is Is there a plan to simulate TISL control panel and the navigation mode of TISL? I think is useful and funny in Mutil games.
159th_Viper Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 No, reason being that the capability no longer exists on the present A-10C's, TISL being replaced by the TGP. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
flankerzrj Posted June 6, 2012 Author Posted June 6, 2012 No, reason being that the capability no longer exists on the present A-10C's, TISL being replaced by the TGP. e ...OK.I got it.
Jona33 Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 Use the TGP LSS/LST modes. Much more useful. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
Smokin Hole Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 No, reason being that the capability no longer exists on the present A-10C's, TISL being replaced by the TGP. Does it really no longer exist or is the TGP simply prefered when available? I seems to be a waste of weight and drag to keep the Pave Penny pod attached to the plane if they no longer use it.
SmokeyTheLung Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 Last I heard (from paulrkii aka snoopy aka a dude who would know) the pods are actually being removed for just that reason... Slowly of course :D System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
Eddie Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) Yep Pave Penny pods are no longer carried, and some units have even started removing the pylon itself. Edited June 7, 2012 by Eddie
cichlidfan Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 Does it really no longer exist or is the TGP simply prefered when available? I seems to be a waste of weight and drag to keep the Pave Penny pod attached to the plane if they no longer use it. It's is still time and money to remove it. I think I remember Paul saying that they look 'funny' without it after so many years with it. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
joey45 Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 So...... Will it be removed in game?? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
hog_driver111th Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I bet they do/will look funny without it. Having that strapped to the right side of the nose for so long, then not, would be like giving an F-16 a T-tail. It's just gonna look weird. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
BlueRidgeDx Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 So...... Will it be removed in game?? Since its function is not modeled in the cockpit, I've always advocated removing the TISL pod from the 3d model. Maybe when it finally goes, the pylon will go with it now. "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
Snoopy Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Since its function is not modeled in the cockpit, I've always advocated removing the TISL pod from the 3d model. Maybe when it finally goes, the pylon will go with it now. I want the pave penny removed but the pylon to stay. We don't fly with the pave penny but for now we still have the pylon. I think some units (ANG) were going to start removing them but I haven't seen or heard of it starting. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 OEF Hawgs out of Spang still role with the pave penny however it serves no purpose in that theatre. My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org)
ED Team Wags Posted June 13, 2012 ED Team Posted June 13, 2012 Is Is there a plan to simulate TISL control panel and the navigation mode of TISL? I think is useful and funny in Mutil games. No, there are no such plans. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
MagnumHB Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I bet they do/will look funny without it. Having that strapped to the right side of the nose for so long, then not, would be like giving an F-16 a T-tail. It's just gonna look weird. Right on. Besides, who really cares about some minor cosmetic feature like this when there are real, serious bugs to be dealt with? The idea of spending time altering the physical model for something like this while critical aircraft systems are non-functional (as of 1.1.2.1) would be laughable if it weren't so depressing. Plus, if we really want to get pedantic, since we technically have aircraft from a couple years ago before the pods started coming off (as far as I know anyway), it would be correct to keep them on.
whitehot Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Right on. Besides, who really cares about some minor cosmetic feature like this when there are real, serious bugs to be dealt with? The idea of spending time altering the physical model for something like this while critical aircraft systems are non-functional (as of 1.1.2.1) would be laughable if it weren't so depressing. Plus, if we really want to get pedantic, since we technically have aircraft from a couple years ago before the pods started coming off (as far as I know anyway), it would be correct to keep them on. i agree in the fullest. Time and resources should be spent on much more pressing features. Besides, i don't think that without the pod, the ac would look so different [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i7 6700K @ 4.2, MSI M5 Z170A Gaming, NZXT X61 Kraken liquid cooler, PNY Nvidia GTX 1080 Founders Edition, 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 Mhz C15, samsung 840 evo SSD, CoolerMaster 1000W Gold rated PSU, NZXT Noctis 450 cabinet, Samsung S240SW 24' 1920x1200 LED panel, X-52 Pro Flight stick. W10 Pro x64 1809, NO antivirus EVER
doright Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 I want the pave penny removed but the pylon to stay. We don't fly with the pave penny but for now we still have the pylon. I think some units (ANG) were going to start removing them but I haven't seen or heard of it starting. Seems like a good place to mount a up to date targeting system's sensors. Minimize the 'M'. Until the gun is fired, then the fog of war would set in.
whitehot Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 btw, what about the A-10A in FC3? with FACs and everything the pod could be of use in that case [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i7 6700K @ 4.2, MSI M5 Z170A Gaming, NZXT X61 Kraken liquid cooler, PNY Nvidia GTX 1080 Founders Edition, 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 Mhz C15, samsung 840 evo SSD, CoolerMaster 1000W Gold rated PSU, NZXT Noctis 450 cabinet, Samsung S240SW 24' 1920x1200 LED panel, X-52 Pro Flight stick. W10 Pro x64 1809, NO antivirus EVER
luza Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 FC3 will presumably not have this kind of fidelity Whitehot [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
amalahama Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Is there any plans to implement new features in A-10C or development in this aircraft is frozen? I still miss a bunch of things, like INS implementation or some AN/ARC-164 modes. Regards!
Snoopy Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Is there any plans to implement new features in A-10C or development in this aircraft is frozen? I still miss a bunch of things, like INS implementation or some AN/ARC-164 modes. Regards! The EGI (Embedded GPS Reciever/INU) replaced the INS. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
BlueRidgeDx Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Maybe he meant HARS? There's still some work to be done there. "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
amalahama Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 The EGI (Embedded GPS Reciever/INU) replaced the INS. Well EGI still feeds from INS to work out position data. Normally INS data is blended with GPS data to get the best accuracy, but you can (currently in DCS:A-10C) force EGI to feed only from INS, either disconnecting GPS manually (via SYSTEM/GPS -> INIT, which reset GPS and then you will rely briefly only on INS) or selecting INS as only source (via NAV page -> Commanded Navigation Mode Rotary, and selecting INS only). In both cases I've been unable to see any drift in position after a long flight, therefore making INS update page (NAV / UPDATE) basically useless and also leaving the different ALIGN methods as a switchology exercise with no effect on drift or accuracy. I have also the feeling that GPS model has been simplified from the ABRIS model in BS, which was quite complex and detailed. I have to admit that the impact of all this in the gameplay is extremly low, as currently EGI provides a really good position estimation under normal conditions, but still would be nice to flight missions w/o GPS support in which you have to perform INS updates here and there. Furthermore it wouldn't be the first time seen in a simulator - PMDG aircrafts implement Blending algorithm in FMCs since the old MD-11! Regards!
Eagle0110 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Agreed! With a much more accuratly simualted GPS inaccuracy the actually realism has no reason not to be achieved since PMDG has been taking this high a bar as a standard since long time ago!!! :( [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft I have thoroughly studied: A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21bis, UH-1H, Boeing 737-800/900, Dash-8Q400, Bell-407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i7-8750H@2.2GHz 6 Cores turbo up to 4.1GHz, GTX1070 Max-Q@8GB GRAM, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, 500G SSD, CH Product Fighter Stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5.
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