Cant get enough speed to take off!

[Jordan4]

Hello. I have just completed all of the training missions for the game and am somewhat familiar with the plane finally. Anyway I am having two reoccurring issues. When I attempt to play the mission "Defending camp Yankee" I start the plane and all of its systems, taxi to the runway for take off however there seems to be no thrust at all. It almost seems like the brakes are on or something. Is there something I am forgetting to do? By the end of the runway I am only going about 110 kts and that is with full power the entire time! This is very frustrating as I am finally ready to play and now I cant get off the ground. Also I am having an issue typing in values in the dsms profile pages. If i try to type in ripple quantity or minimum alt for a bomb profile nothing happens after I punch in the numbers and then press the corresponding OSB. Any help would be much appreciated as I am very frustrated and want to start playing but these issues are getting in the way. What am I doing wrong? Thank you.

[MTFDarkEagle]

Hi.

 

In the cockpit, press RCTRL+ENTER to show the controls overlay.

In the lower left and right corners there can be triangles, which represent your brakes. Are those present?

 

On your second issue: you need to produce a track so we can have a look at it. For your first issue too come to think of it ;)

 

$$$Ha!! Gotcha!! :D ;)

[BIGNEWY]

are you using rudder peddles ?

 

if so check your toe breaks in the axis to make sure they are not on or need inverting in the axis tune.

 

if its not that post a track, do a short mission to replicate the take off, hit quit and save track then upload it here as an attachment and we will take a look

 

DAMN IT TINTIN YOU SNIPED ME !!!! LOL

Edited August 13, 2012 by BIGNEWY

[JAG]

Hi, I had the same problem with my saitek pedals and I fix it marking the invert box in the assign page of every wheel brake, try that if you are using pedals too.

 

About the input in the dsms, no idea, I have long time no flying the warthog.

 

 

Hope it helps

Edited August 13, 2012 by JAG

[BigfootMSR]

It sounds like your just have an error on the hud. First make sure that you can see the pitch angle ladder on the hud. Basically make sure you are not in the menu system of the HUD. Then look at the very bottom of the HUD as you type in your numbers on the scratch pad. If it says something about an "input error" you can press "CLR" to clear the hud and then try typing in the number again. If this does not help, please provided a short track of this behavior. As far as the no speed issue, it could be an overweight issue. Make sure if you are changing the load out "lalt + ' " you are not overweight with fuel ect.

[Corrigan]

Also guessing it's inverted brakes. They're press-to-release by default.

[badger66]

How much power do you need to taxi is a good starting point ?

 

The throttle just needs a nudge , if you gotta power up big time to get any sort of movement , I would suggest brakes issue too .

[Revelation]

Definitely post a track.

 

I also believe that you may possibly be too heavy to take off from that runway. i.e. the runway may not be long enough to get enough speed to take off.

 

Without knowing your loadout and if the brake axis is not the culprit, I would definitely look at your weight.

[Jordan4]

Thank you all for your help. It is not an issue with weight because I didn't even modify my load out in the mission planner. The amount of throttle required to taxi is way to much i can tell that there is something wrong. It takes full throttle for about 4 or 5 seconds just to get any movement at all. Yes I am using rudder pedals. Is the brake axis something I can change in the control settings? The input problem is very strange as when I play a training mission and am prompted to put in a value it works however as soon as that segment of the mission is over I can no longer type in values. I will try to make a track today if I can figure it out. Thank you all very much for your assistance I will check the brake axis.

[FreeFall]

Yes I am using rudder pedals. Is the brake axis something I can change in the control settings?

 

Yes. Just choose "Invert Axis". I think that is the problem as mentioned before by other forum members.

[Jordan4]

Ok now I have an even worse problem! I went to look for the brake axis and just like you guys said the rudder pedals were for some reason assigned to wheel brakes. Great I clear the rudder profile and reset the rudder function which is apparentley "Joy Z". I go to the same mission that I was using as a test bed before. I begin the start up process and I switch my apu on button on my HOTAS Warthog and nothing happens! I then movie the throttle and find out that the left throttle is assigned to as the rudders! I didnt even make this change. I go to check if the apu switch was assigned to something else. IT WASNT! It was still "btn 20". So now the only thing that works on my HOTAS Throttle module is the left throttle assigned to the rudder. None of the switches work even though they are correctly assigned in the controls menu. I am beyond confused and frustrated. Any help or method of reseting/reinstalling my Hotas controls would be great or any explanation as to why this peculiar thing is happening.

[neverminded]

As a few tried to tell you before. Just invert the brake axis. The rudder pedals are normally assigned to the wheel brakes, thats no fault. Best would be to delete the Folder saved games\DCS and start over again with configuring your rudderpedals.

[Jordan4]

I have now tried everything including clearing all profiles and re assigning them manually and nothing is working. I was unable to locate anything that said invert axis however I did clear the wheel brakes from the rudder pedal profile and thats when these even worse issues began. I suppose I will be reinstalling the game/contacting Thrustmasters support line. This is truly unbelievable I am amazed at what is happening. I literally just removed wheel brakes from the rudder pedal profile and now all that works on my throttle section is the left throttle lever that is now operating the rudders even though it is assigned properly. Every button is assigned properly as a matter of fact. This is absolutely frustrating.

[neverminded]

You can find "Invert axis" under "tune axis".

And as you messed anything up right now, delete you DCS saved game folder as described in my last post. If anything does not work properly, there IS something misconfigured. When deleting your saved game\DCS folder you can start from scratch.

[JAG]

The last week something similar happend to me, I was playing and everything was fine, the next day, all the axis of every joystick and pedal were "re-assigned" with no sense, so I clear all of them in the config, and assign them one by one, and now everything is fine. That was the first time I saw something like that.

Do as other members says, erase the folder that store joysticks configurations, enter the game and clear every axis on the category DCS A-10C Game and DCS A-10C Sim and reassign them, that should work.

[grandkodiak]

Also check in windows to make sure the throttles are still recognized inputting for thier entire length... try recalibrating the joystick, make sure that full back is zero input, middle is middle, and full is completely full. double check the same in the sim and make sure the throttle position lines up in the game as it does on your real world joystick.

 

you can also look in sim and make sure the turbine rpm's are going to max or if they are staying below the line.

 

also check the toe brake constant on or parking brake/emergency brake symptom people have mentioned... if you can, go as far as unplugging just the rudder portion and see if it goes away.

[Jordan4]

Im not sure why inverting the axis would solve the problem if the brakes are still assigned to the rudders. For what possible reason would the brakes be assigned to the rudders? I dont understand why when I go into to reassign a control and manipulate that control and then its name is recognized and I save it that nothing changes. I'm not entirely sure deleting the folders will help I also am not fond of the idea of spending 2 hours reassigning every control on the Hotas. I just went to the thrustmasters website and downloaded the latest patch that did nothing aswell. I am completely lost. Here is a screenshot of my axis controls page. As you can see several controls are designated Axis Y or axis X, I do not know why they are labeled the same thing however when I manipulate the control to assign it these are the names that come up.

[Jordan4]

Ok well I cant figure out how to post the screenshot so never mind. I tried unplugging the rudders nothing changed. Now the joystick is only moving in the Y axis HAHA this is so ridiculous I spend an entire week learning all the systems on the plane and when Im finally ready to start the mission my controls go awol! I appreciate everybody's input please keep the suggestions coming. Does anybody know how to uninstall the Hotas/ or rudder pedals? I cant seem to find the files anywhere. Thank you.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Jordan4

[neverminded]

Delete the folder under Users\youruser\saved games\DCS or rename it.

Thats what I told you twice. Try it and after that invert the axis on your brakes. Just DO it.

[Corrigan]

Every time I've installed DCS with controls attached, it maps everything completely wrong. It'll figure out that the pedals should control the rudder, but also map throttles etc to the rudder. Basically it seems it will map everything it can to each function. You'll have to go to the axis options and simply remove the faulty mappings and set your own. It should only take a few minutes.

[Jordan4]

Every time I've installed DCS with controls attached, it maps everything completely wrong. It'll figure out that the pedals should control the rudder, but also map throttles etc to the rudder. Basically it seems it will map everything it can to each function. You'll have to go to the axis options and simply remove the faulty mappings and set your own. It should only take a few minutes.

I have already tried remapping manually... does nothing.

[AceKng1]

Im not sure why inverting the axis would solve the problem if the brakes are still assigned to the rudders. For what possible reason would the brakes be assigned to the rudders?

 

In a normal airplane, the wheel brakes are controlled by the rudder pedals. Sliding the pedals forwards and backwards turns the nosewheel/moves the rudder. Pressing the pedals down (like individual pedals in a car) engages the wheel brakes. This is why the wheel brakes are assigned to rudder controls in the game.

 

When I first got my Saitek pedals and plugged them in, the toe brake axis was inverted. This meant when my pedals were at rest the wheel brake was fully engaged. When I pressed the pedals down, the wheel brake would be released. To fix this, click axis tune and then check the invert tick box.

 

I'm also not 100% but I think the wrong axis were mapped when I first plugged in my pedals. To assign the correct axis, first select the rudder box under axis control and slide your rudder pedals all the way until it recognizes the command. You may have to change which side you are pushing on if it doesn't recognize it on one side. Next, select the left wheel brake. Then push only the left pedal down. Repeat for the right wheel brake/toe pedal. Finally, check to see if the brakes are engaged or disengaged when the pedals are at rest. If engaged, select the left wheel brake axis, click tune axis, then check the inverted axis tick box. Repeat for the right wheel brake. You should then be all set as far as rudder pedals go!

[Jordan4]

AceKng1 thank you for clearing that up for me that makes a lot of sense. I have however already attempted to reset the controls. The rudders and every other function on my Hotas warthog joystick is recognized however when I go into the game nothing is changed regardless of what I have done in the axis commands. Neverminded you seem to think that this is all my doing perhaps if you were here to witness what is going on you would understand truly how severe this problem really is and it is not something I can fix by using common sense because I have already tried that. Thank you for your suggestions and at this point I am almost ready to do what you suggested however I would at all costs like to avoid remapping the entire Hotas warthog as the amount of controls would make this a daunting procedure.

[neverminded]

You have a Hotas Warthog? If so, du you have TARGET running?

When it is running, shut it down, delete the folder i stated above and everything should be going back to normal.

[Jordan4]

Yes I have Hotas no I do not have target as somebody said that it is not a good program. When I first got it all I did was plug everything in and it worked fine. I think I got to the root of my problem... It was on A-10C Game not Sim.... Now I deleted the folders you told me too and now everything is blank. I tried unplugging the controls and plugging them back in buck that didnt work. Can somebody please tell me how to uninstall the hotas and my rudders so I can plug them back in as if it was the first time and have them upload there controls to the game like they did before.