tomcatter Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Gentlemen don´t misunderstand my post, I think that the BBC is one of the best news agency of the world, and i trust it even more than my national news agency. And under the picture it said "A state-owned Turkish news agency carried pictures it said showed the Syrian jet being shot down" so the BBC wasnt really claiming anything except that it was what the Turkish news was claiming ;) But....we all have to agree that one of the basis of a good journalist is to double-check your sources, don´t we...? Edited March 25, 2014 by tomcatter spelling
PFunk1606688187 Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 And under the picture it said "A state-owned Turkish news agency carried pictures it said showed the Syrian jet being shot down" so the BBC wasnt really claiming anything except that it was what the Turkish news was claiming ;) Exactly! :smilewink: But....we all have to agree that one of the basis of a good journalist is to double-check your sources, don´t we...? Its a grey area. I think they clearly knew that it wasn't a verified picture because of the way they presented it. Down the line they can just follow up with "And this picture first shown on Turkish State news has turned out to be a cleverly cropped photo of a Russian flight demonstration team." I'd say its not the height of journalistic integrity, but its also clear its not a total deception on their part. They said "This is what the Turks say" and clever people figured it out. Part of the news' job is to report things being said so that the rest of us can speculate and be critical. Its not necessarily their job to chase down every lie as long as they don't themselves call them a definite truth. Everytime they put a video of say the Syrian revolution up thats on youtube news agencies make a point of saying things like "We cannot independently verify this footage" and yet we consider it newsworthy. I'm sure they'll be editing this article soon enough to recognize the deception however. Warning: Nothing I say is automatically correct, even if I think it is.
tomcatter Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 I get your point P*funk, but lately we are seeing too much news without the proper check, at least here in Spain.... Sorry to open this off topic, let´s get back to aviation....
tomcatter Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 By the way, has your nickname something to do with the G.Clinton band?
FoxHoundELite Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 UFO or secret fighter jet? The mysterious triangular craft pictured flying over Texas http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2591860/UFO-secret-fighter-jet-The-mysterious-triple-triangle-craft-pictured-flying-Texasre.html Feel the Rush of Superior Air Power [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Namenlos Ein Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 18 Polish Su-22 Aircraft Remain In Service for the Next 10 Years The Polish Ministry of National Defense confirmed on April 2 that the Sukhoi Su-22M4 and Su-22UM3K aircraft will remain in service after 2015. Poland currently operates two fully-staffed Su-22 squadrons at the 21st Tactical Air Base in Swidwin for a total of 32 aircraft (26 Su-22M4 attack aircraft and 6 Su-22UM3K conversion trainers). […]
Bucic Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Are we allowed to post on major troop movement along Ukrainian/Russian border? F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
GripenNG Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Are we allowed to post on major troop movement along Ukrainian/Russian border? If not, please send me a PM! :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Snooze-81st-vFS
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Are we allowed to post on major troop movement along Ukrainian/Russian border? This is military and aviation news thread. I would like to see military news from Russia and Ukraine. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
159th_Viper Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 This is military and aviation news thread. I would like to see military news from Russia and Ukraine. It's a simple Military Training Exercise. Hardly newsworthy. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
FoxHoundELite Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 The future of air travel is bright – and fast. Since the dawn of the jet age in the 1960s, commercial air travel has remained relatively unchanged. However, today’s demand for smarter and faster technologies is driving the next generation of commercial travel with supersonic aircraft, which could potentially cut U.S. coast-to-coast travel time almost in half. With the commercial air travel industry expected to grow to more than five times its current size, the economic impact and significant time savings of a more efficient supersonic travel system will become increasingly important in our global economy. http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/features/2014/getting-up-to-speed.html?utm_content=sf2490791&utm_medium=spredfast&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=Lockheed+Martin&sf2490791=1 Looks like The Raptor and Concord have a rough night here..... Feel the Rush of Superior Air Power [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
159th_Viper Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Looks like The Raptor and Concord have a rough night here..... Pinocchio definitely made up the numbers in that ménage à trois. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Bucic Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) This is military and aviation news thread. I would like to see military news from Russia and Ukraine. I usually don't follow avia and mil news that much and this is why I find this thread so valuable. What I'm trying to say here is I don't have anything big. Just few tidbits of info I'd much like to see supplemented with something better. 25-10-2013 to 2-04-2014 Russian troops buildup, Rostov, satellite photos https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/453278987771326464/photo/1/large 02 April 2014 Russian buildup around Belgorod continues, satellite photos http://www.janes.com/article/36324/russian-buildup-around-belgorod-continues 13 March 2014 Previous news on Belgorod movements http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_13/Russian-Armed-Forces-intensify-battle-drills-in-areas-bordering-Ukraine-Defense-Ministry-2506/ Apr 01, 2014 Russia's troop buildup -- what do we know? http://www.wpbf.com/national-news/Russia-s-troop-buildup-what-do-we-know/25215888 4 Apr 2014 Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies (RUSI) announces a briefing on possible Russian military strategies against ukraine https://www.rusi.org/news/ref:N533EEE036731B/ April 8, 2014 Swedish Security Service Sees increased activity of Russian intelligence says Wilhelm Unge, chief analyst at Sweden's domestic intelligence agency Säkerhetspolisen. NOTE: Date is isually date of the source article, not date of events It's a simple Military Training Exercise. Hardly newsworthy. IMO: drills in a region adjacent to Ukraine/Russia border => newsworthy this is a news thread => there are no 'simple drills', 'routine drills' or 'unsettling drills'; just 'drills' @anyone: If anythings off, feel free to point it out. Some info I found in this 1500 pages long topic :shocking: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?236054-2nd-attempt-at-the-Ukraine-discussion-thread/page1020 Edited April 9, 2014 by Bucic 1 F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Namenlos Ein Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Tour of Ukraine-Russia Border Finds No Signs of Military Buildup We found more army bases — in Kamensk-Shakhtinsky and Rostov, both near Ukraine’s southeastern border — but the only activity we saw was some serious latrine duty and a band of conscripts enjoying a friendly wrestling match.
Kusch Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 The U.S. Air Force send 18 Europe-based fighter jets to Poland in June for joint training at Lask Air Base, officials said Wednesday. http://www.stripes.com/news/air-force-to-send-more-fighters-to-poland-uss-cook-headed-to-black-sea-1.277141 NATO increases Baltic air policing. The U.S. rotation is scheduled to end May 1, but the expanded nature of the air policing mission is set to continue and even increase through the next deployment. Given the enlarged scope of the mission going forward, three nations are going to deploy aircraft starting May 1. These nations are Poland — originally tasked with the rotation before the crisis — Denmark and the United Kingdom, fielding the MiG-29A, F-16AM and Eurofighter Typhoon, respectively. With Poland expected to send four aircraft, the United Kingdom another four to six, and Denmark an additional six, the mission will be greatly expanded with up to 16 aircraft — a fourfold increase over usual deployments. France has also signaled that it is willing to send Rafale jets to the mission, and although no firm commitment has been made, they could join the August deployment. http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/66495/nato-increases-baltic-air-policing-201466495/ Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
Bucic Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) 10th April 2014 - NATO/DigitalGlobe unveils some 15 satellite photos to confirm the '40,000 Russian troops near Ukrainian border' claim - RT.com claims these are last year's - DigitalGlobe claims 'it can confirm that the dates in the AP report of March 2014 are accurate' http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/satellite-images-russia-military-ukraine/ (includes a link to the RT claim) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/nato-satellite-photos-russia-ukraine_n_5126099.html (includes photo locations) (photos showing Ukrainian landscape condition at that time would be a welcome addition) In northwest Romania, some 450 U.S. and Romanian troops and technical staff kicked off a week of joint military exercises, flying U.S. F-16 fighter jets alongside Romanian ones. via huffingtonpost.com Edited April 10, 2014 by Bucic F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
ED Team NineLine Posted April 10, 2014 ED Team Posted April 10, 2014 I just want everyone to make sure they tread carefully... these topics are dangerously close to getting beyond the scope of the thread and too close to political... you guys are fine right now, but just throwing that out there ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Kusch Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Germany has offered to send six Eurofighter Typhoon fighter aircraft to help bolster the NATO Baltic Air Policing Mission, an alliance spokesperson confirmed to IHS Jane's on 9 April. http://www.janes.com/article/36578/germany-offers-typhoons-to-bolster-baltic-air-policing Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
Namenlos Ein Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Russian jet makes "provocative and unprofessional" pass at USS Donald Cook
Kusch Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) Su-27 down? http://en.itar-tass.com/world/728011 Fighter jet shot down near Ukraine’s city of Kramatorsk, witnesses say Edited April 15, 2014 by Kusch Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
Kusch Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) Looks like MiG-29 (central fuel tank) And perhaps someone made a mistake with the downing of the smoke engine. Edited April 15, 2014 by Kusch Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
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