Military and Aviation News Thread (NO DISCUSSION)

[Bucic]

19.09.2014

Establishment of Lithuanian–Polish–Ukrainian Brigade

(A non-Nato Central/Eastern European regional initiative, planned in the past, now expedited/revived)

Full operation readiness within 2 years.

The 4,500-strong LITPOLUKRBRIG brigade will have its headquarters and staff in Lublin, Poland, with the national components stationed in their respective countries and gathering together for exercises and foreign missions.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian%E2%80%93Polish%E2%80%93Ukrainian_Brigade

Edited September 21, 2014 by Bucic

[Emu]

Families of German MH17 victims to sue Ukraine

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/21/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-germany-idUSKBN0HG08520140921

 

(Reuters) - Survivors of German victims of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 downed over Ukraine plan to sue the country and its president for manslaughter by negligence in 298 cases, the lawyer representing them said on Sunday.

 

Professor of aviation law Elmar Giemulla, who is representing three families of German victims, said that under international law Ukraine should have closed its air space if it could not guarantee the safety of flights.

 

"Each state is responsible for the security of its air space," Giemulla said in a statement emailed to Reuters. "If it is not able to do so temporarily, it must close its air space. As that did not happen, Ukraine is liable for the damage."

[Aginor]

Just read in the news: It looks like the Israelis shot down a Syrian MiG-21 with a Patriot.

Nothing confirmed yet though.

Does anyone have more info?

EDIT: Source seems to be Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper.

[TheProphet]

YNET (an Israeli website) says it's an Su-24.

[Namenlos Ein]

US Airstrikes Against ISIS Targets Under Way in Syria

 

The stealth F-22 Raptor took part in the mission, a U.S. defense official said, marking the first time the pricey, controversial aircraft has been used in a combat operation.

[ViFF]

Yes it was an Su-24 that was probably on the way to bomb A-Nusrah rebel positions in the area of Kunetrah.

 

Says the Patriot was fired because it entered Israeli airspace, but the crash site is now confirmed outside Israeli borders in the area of Kunetrah.

 

If the pilots manage to survive and eject I doubt they will survive the rebel reception on the ground... another 2 decapitation videos soon to be uploaded to youtube :(

 

RIP... or hope to hear the pilots chute's floated westward across the border to Israel... thats their best chance to survive.

[TheProphet]

Both pilots ejected:

 

[Aginor]

Yeah, regardless of what happened and why, I hope the guys get out of there safely. We've had enough deaths already.

[Emu]

B1-Bs and F-22s bomb ISIS:

 

http://www.janes.com/article/42852/us-heavy-bombers-carry-out-more-strikes-in-iraq

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140922/NEWS05/309220056/U-S-begins-airstrikes-Islamic-State-targets-Syria

[TheProphet]

Video showing the Syrian Su-24 going down in flames after being shot by an Israeli Patriot missile:

 

[YOUTUBE]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/J5--STCSeAw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/YOUTUBE]

 

(If it doesn't work watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5--STCSeAw)

[schroedi]

That's the first time in the whole service life of the system that a Patriot missle shoots down a hostile plane. To this day it only shot down other missles and friendly jets.

[NineLine]

Renovations by F-22:

 

https://twitter.com/DeptofDefense/status/514432344917540864/photo/1

 

[Jona33]

That's what I call precision, interesting that they've expanded the air strikes to Syria.

[Corrigan]

Interesting that they went for the 22's for that type of mission. Can't have been the cheapest choice.

 

Furthermore (and I hope this isn't too political a statement), I can think of few better uses of tax money than killing ISIS militants. 100% behind these missions.

[NineLine]

F-22's were stationed over there, why not use them. I cant imagine there is a big difference in using another airframe to drop the same bomb, money-wise, but I dont know...

 

Interesting that they went for the 22's for that type of mission. Can't have been the cheapest choice.

 

Furthermore (and I hope this isn't too political a statement), I can think of few better uses of tax money than killing ISIS militants. 100% behind these missions.

[NineLine]

0bpakeG9x7o

[FoxHoundELite]

Interesting that they went for the 22's for that type of mission. Can't have been the cheapest choice.

 

Furthermore (and I hope this isn't too political a statement), I can think of few better uses of tax money than killing ISIS militants. 100% behind these missions.

 

behold....DCS F-22A Raptor is confirmed XD

[NineLine]

ahLNOzFVsHk

[Corrigan]

0bpakeG9x7o

 

Holy crap.

[Raven68]

F-22's were stationed over there, why not use them. I cant imagine there is a big difference in using another airframe to drop the same bomb, money-wise, but I dont know...

 

Agreed. And may add also if you got it flaunt it. No need to keep one of your best players sidelined. ;)

Edited September 23, 2014 by Raven68

[Raven68]

...

Holy crap.

 

+100! Knock knock!!

[Corrigan]

Are those GBU-28s, or what? Normal JDAMs?

[NineLine]

I thought the F-22 could carry 2 GBU-32s (1000lb JDAM), but I could be wrong... dunno what it dropped in this case

[Weta43]

A double post, but might be interesting to some that aren't Airbus fans :

 

Apparently (though stuff is not my most trusted site), airbus entering joint venture to develop a supersonic business jet..

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/61436016/airbus-to-collaborate-with-aerion-on-supersonic-jet.htm

[Sk1nn3r]

I thought the F-22 could carry 2 GBU-32s (1000lb JDAM), but I could be wrong... dunno what it dropped in this case

 

It may have been BLU-109 (2000 lbs) or BLU-110 (1000 lbs) with a JDAM airfoil group installed.

 

GBU-31(V)3/B 2000 lbs

GBU-35(V)1/B 1000 lbs