New DCS Theater Maps Wish Wish List

[shagrat]

Hell yea! No more deserts no more afghanistan or iraq, game devs are puking this crap out on daily bases, give us europe and uk!

At least Afghanistan, Balkans and Iraq would cater the wish to simulate a real conflict that actually happened, or did I miss something?

Is it just me who wishes to recreate conflict scenarios that are not fictious?

 

I remember my time in the army, where a strategical/tactical training was done involving divisonal to battallion level commanders. Simulated scenario the usual, "red forces are attacking blue forces since yesterday evening"... odd that red seemed to be a little country called Denmark according to the map. :megalol:

 

Russia would be too politically "incorrect" at that time (glasnost & perestroika) so this fictious scenario was invented... Let's say everybody tried hard to take this as the ernest excercise it was. Reeeeeaaaaally hard! "The vikings are coming! Man the walls!" :D

 

So please, whatever scenario, make it an area where actual conflicts happened.

 

EDIT: And for the tons of games puking out Iraq/Iran and Afghanistan maps... Unfortunately it seems it is the wrong games.

Edited May 12, 2013 by shagrat

[cichlidfan]

Hell yea! No more deserts no more afghanistan or iraq, game devs are puking this crap out on daily bases, give us europe and uk!

 

I was not aware that anyone had produced a desert map for DCS.

[Exorcet]

there we get the interesst conflict, you fly at 30k. It is not sufficent if you fly at 100feet.

But as I said, I do fly at 100 ft, or less. I don't only fly the fighters, and even when I do, I'll sometimes end up coming down quite low. It still doesn't bother me.

 

Thanks for clearing some of the things up.

 

For sure there is people that want to have very long flights. I only belive ED should invest in ground details because we mostly have Dedicated Ground Attackers (SU-25T, A-10C, KA-50 + UH-1H now). Argh i would pay alot of money to finaly get Nevada and see what it brings lol.

 

We've got just as many fighters. And another one coming. Actually 2, not counting the AFM F-15 and Su-27.

Edited May 12, 2013 by Exorcet

[ericoh]

I was not aware that anyone had produced a desert map for DCS.

 

 

Is Nevada Jungle? :huh:

[Yellonet]

Why are people so eager to get maps of desert countries?

Soooooo boring.

[ericoh]

Why are people so eager to get maps of desert countries?

Soooooo boring.

 

 

This.

[JABO2009]

Isreal and surounding country? BOOORINGGGGG..... Friggin deserts, we want mountains for low level action!

 

I guess this terrain would be more easy and faster to generate + would be more FPS friendly + this terrain would mean a nice change to the current "green mountain and field" scenario.

[ericoh]

I guess this terrain would be more easy and faster to generate + would be more FPS friendly + this terrain would mean a nice change to the current "green mountain and field" scenario.

 

Yes right! But Nevada is coming, do not vote for even more sand :(

[Kaktus29]

sand and desert, desert and sand equals boring gameplay..

 

i love to see modern cities and some infantry, armoured brigades duking it out and needed actual CAS to tip the battle their way, which means battle for the skies is needed and all the rest of the air power comes to play while we get to enjoy the landscape and diversity of European theatre ..

 

about Germany) i know they are not occupied in the normal sense of the word, but having troops in the nation that is fully industrialized and weaponized and with huge economic power and output equals "occupied" in the sense foreign policy is drawn to US even if Germany would not agree with US.. thats the magic of military bases.. US bases in Germany are not there to protect Germany from an invasion from Poland or Denmark.. Its political control that comes from having boots on the ground..as such its quite humiliating affair that after 70 years after 2WW Germany still entertains US troops.. Italy same situation.. US bases are though moving eastwards,closer to Russia so maybe Germany gets a break in the future..will see..

 

About realistic campaigns.. well, i wouldn't say a potential conflict in EU is not realistic... it hold much more potential than slamming some arab nation that already all are under the "roof" of US now.. only Iran and Syria are out of the "bloc"..and Syria is in trouble surrounded by US proxy nations.. the probability or the need for war on Iran diminishes by the day.. while whole geo-strategic balance of power still slips towards the East , meaning economic deterioration in the West and break-ups that come with it..

[Eddie]

sand and desert, desert and sand equals boring gameplay..

 

In YOUR opinion. Many, many others would disagree.

 

Personally, I can't see how desert is any different to temperate environments with grass and trees. In fact given the topography of many desert regions they would make for more interesting/exciting tactical flying. I find the caucuses rather boring as it's all pretty much the same, trees, fields, more trees.....

Edited May 12, 2013 by Eddie

[Yellonet]

This is pretty much what I'd want for a map. roughly 2000 x 1500 km, to make it faster to create it could be released with detail only inside the marked area, and then be updated with more detailed areas later on.

 

[GodsPrototype]

This is pretty much what I'd want for a map. roughly 2000 x 1500 km, to make it faster to create it could be released with detail only inside the marked area, and then be updated with more detailed areas later on.

 

 

I like that idea, however, are you talking about a Korean war era or more of a futuristic era in the probable future where there is war between North Korea and Western countries.

[Kaktus29]

the korean scenario only works if we are talking the 1951 conflict.. if we look at modern times like today this is nonsense.. you have F-22 on one side and Mig-17 on other side..

 

who can enjoy this? i mean i like to have a challenge.. beating down a nation that is about to starve to death can't be "tough" for our simmers right?..

 

If we are doing an asian modern conflict we could do a "limited Chin-Jap scenario" without US involvement .. sea action, some amphibious island hopping and resolution based on combat results signed cease-fire in 5-10 days..

[ericoh]

This is pretty much what I'd want for a map. roughly 2000 x 1500 km, to make it faster to create it could be released with detail only inside the marked area, and then be updated with more detailed areas later on.

 

 

 

I like that idea. But that would be very much work.

[Yellonet]

I like that idea, however, are you talking about a Korean war era or more of a futuristic era in the probable future where there is war between North Korea and Western countries.

I want a modern conflict, but not necessarily a future one, I just want something where as many as the aircraft we have and will have will fit in.

Korea would be good for at least F/A-18C, A-10C, MiG-21, MiG-29, F-15C.

And if the Russians join either side, Su-27, Su-25.

[Erforce]

If you play with google earth, you'll find Serbia/Albany a much more exciting ground.

- nice hills/moutains

- direct access to western Europe and NATO.

- Large water + hills bands between Italy/Serbia, makes aircraft manage their fuel and load much much better + Naval interceptions.

- More (IMHO) chance to see KA50+UH1+A10+F16+F18+MIG29+T72/80/90, Abrams and Leopards. Not counting Eurocopter and Eurofighter.

- No real political investments. The fact in Korea, major theater was Falcon4, and playable only on the blue side. If you play the red side, then... No there's no chance i'll play North side on this one.

 

I know it's personnal too, but i was bored pretty fast in every sand-based game. (F/A-18 3 - F/A OIF, BF3, Arma2 OA and such)

Trees, fields, more trees, trees in fall, snow, grass... dunno, it smells life and nature. not a testing range. :D

[Lucas_From_Hell]

I think (nearly) all agree that anything in Europe would be a blast :D Then some African or South-West/Central Asian country (possibly extending the current map as well), Middle East maybe? Eastern Asia's fun if you get a country that's capable. N Korea can surely be troublesome but the only thing we have from their arsenal is the MiG-29A/G. You could have a good conflict if you bring Singapore, Malasya, Australia and whatnot, they pack a real punch and have pretty capable aircraft. But again I think they'd want to reuse the nations we have so far... Europe, Mediterranean countries? :D

 

I just wonder if they'll be training missions for Nevada, as in A2A without live weapons, for Red Flag-type of activities.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

i didnt vote, as the poll says nothing about the time those scenarios should settle...

i for one would love a western european WWII map for example for my P51 and hopefully my 190 soon...if we are talking about modern conflicts,...well then i would probably like to fly my A10 in the gulf....

but then again if i think of possible future modules,....Korea would fit as well for the F86....

the upcoming hifi hornet...well, i dont know, maybe i would like to fly it above europe....

[OGREMAN]

Aviation Interest Vs POLITICS of CONFLICT

 

Why does it have to be real ?

 

What about making a large map area that is fictitious, but has everything we all want, urban, desert, jungle, forest's and of-course the sea :)

 

any thing to get out of Georgia lol !!!

 

Put simply ....... I dont care to re-enact or play Alexander the great on the basis of national politics ........ (citizen of ONE WORLD) so I would choose my next terrain based on its interest from a flying point of view. I would even be happy with a total fantasy terrain. JUST GIVE US NEW TERRAIN NOW.

[Yellonet]

If you play with google earth, you'll find Serbia/Albany a much more exciting ground.

- nice hills/moutains

There's lots of hills and mountains in Korea.

- direct access to western Europe and NATO.

With Korea you get direct access to China, Japan and Russia.

- Large water + hills bands between Italy/Serbia, makes aircraft manage their fuel and load much much better + Naval interceptions.

There's more water around Korea.

- More (IMHO) chance to see KA50+UH1+A10+F16+F18+MIG29+T72/80/90, Abrams and Leopards. Not counting Eurocopter and Eurofighter.

Some of those are never going to be modeled in DCS, and if we go with a hypothetical scenario you can have the units you want anyway.

- No real political investments. The fact in Korea, major theater was Falcon4, and playable only on the blue side. If you play the red side, then... No there's no chance i'll play North side on this one.

I really don't understand what you mean :huh:

 

I know it's personnal too, but i was bored pretty fast in every sand-based game. (F/A-18 3 - F/A OIF, BF3, Arma2 OA and such)

Trees, fields, more trees, trees in fall, snow, grass... dunno, it smells life and nature. not a testing range. :D

With this I agree :)

[ericoh]

Why do so much simmers have to be automaticaly boring? :huh:

 

This is why people think about fat boring old men when they hear we play simmulation lol. :doh:

 

BIGNEWY and OGREMAN are right, why not create a fictional terrain with everything inside. you can still call your enemy russia if that makes you hot...

Edited May 13, 2013 by ericoh

[Yellonet]

I think (nearly) all agree that anything in Europe would be a blast :D

Personally I don't want a European map, I would want a full blown war scenario, and it just wouldn't be believable for me if it took place in Europe. A Korean war that escalates drawing other nations in on either side though... now that could be interesting, because then you could pretty much throw in every aircraft and vehicle we have, it would be important with large expanses of water too for ship combat and carrier operations, the Mediterranean just feels too small for that.

[hog_driver111th]

I voted eastern US. First, I'm from NJ, but the main reasons is due to the number of bases on the east coast. Norfolk/Oceana for Navy, Andrews/Langley/Seymour Johnson... for USAF, Ft. Rucker/Aberdeen Proving Grounds for US Army, and Cherry Point/New River for Marines. Not to mention all the other places. (ie: Patuxent River for flight testing)

[Yellonet]

Why do so much simmers have to be automaticaly boring? :huh:

 

This is why people think about fat boring old men when they hear we play simmulation lol. :doh:

 

BIGNEWY and OGREMAN are right, why not create a fictional terrain with everything inside. you can still call your enemy russia if that makes you hot...

Yeah, lets have Squareland invading Circleland, NATO comes to Circleland's defence while Squareland is backed by Russia and China.

The evil dictatorship Squareland have always felt picked on by the international community and are now ready to show that they are not to be played with by invading their peaceful neighbour state Circleland to get to its rich natural resources.

 

Here's the map, already done for you.

 

[ericoh]

Yeah, lets have Squareland invading Circleland, NATO comes to Circleland's defence while Squareland is backed by Russia and China.

The evil dictatorship Squareland have always felt picked on by the international community and are now ready to show that they are not to be played with by invading their peaceful neighbour state Circleland to get to its rich natural resources.

 

Here's the map, already done for you.

 

 

 

Is that realy where your imagination ends allready? :huh:

 

Trust me theres people out there more suited for that job. You dont need to be scared that it becomes square land.

Edited May 13, 2013 by ericoh