MemphisBelle Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Wags: 1.2.3 Update We share the frustration of another Monday without 1.2.3 being ready, but in the course of working on 1.2.3, what we term a "blocking" bug was introduced into the game. Specifically, helicopters unable to ramp start. This would break a significant number of missions / campaigns. We will now fix the issue, create a new installer, test the installer, and then release 1.2.3. We sincerely hope this will go quickly. No one wants to get 1.2.3 out the door more than us! @Wags Thanks for the constant updates in this matter. I believe that it must be a lot of pressure for you and the devs right now over there....the more the Game proceeds, the more it will be difficult to put out patches that don't break somethings else on another place. Although it is sad, I really understand this...so don't rush, wouldn't worth it...you´ll make it :thumbup: BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
Witchking Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Take your time guys. I can wait for a new release with the new 6dof cockpits. *Shields myself against hurling shoes* ;D ;) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
sobek Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 technically isnt that against the rules, Purposely bypassing filters by substituting characters, that is? The only set of filters here are the mods. Simple swear word filters that match only with a database of strings are too cumbersome and too easy to bypass anyway. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
tintifaxl Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Thank's to ED for keeping us up to date on the progress. Very professionial and much appreceated (by me at least). Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Some people here are like politicians. The only people in the world when they are seeing light at the end of the tunnel they ask for more tunnel. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
cichlidfan Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Some people here are like politicians. The only people in the world when they are seeing light at the end of the tunnel they ask for more tunnel. ...and to fix the color of the light. :D ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
outlawal2 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 WAIT! There's a tunnel? (I don't remember reading THAT in the list of updates / changes) "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
Hamblue Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) So if the testers missed something like,,,, Oh yeah you can't even start the choppers, then what other surprises are in there? AGM-65's fly in reverse? or Gear doesn't retract or.... fill in the blanks. I'm sure glad they did't let the inexperienced or unqualified people test it. This is going to be a good one. :lol::lol: Edited February 25, 2013 by Hamblue Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
sobek Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 So if the testers missed something like If the testers had missed it, you'd be the one finding it out right now. You are way off base implying that testers are incompetent, so i'd like to ask you to leave that line of discussion be. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Hamblue Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 You have to see some humor in that the choppers cant start. I for one think it's pretty hilarious. No offense to the testers in reality as it's obvious that someone did a last minute tweak after the testing done. :pilotfly: Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
EtherealN Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 In your above examples it is EXTREMELY easy to think that they are on the verge of releasing, they mention installers (which means to the layman that the patch itself is done, it might not be correct but that is the impression I got, perhaps I am simply a idiot) and they even give us a date to expect it. My point is that the announcements EXPLICITLY stated: "Today we are building a new release installer for 1.2.3 that we hope to release soon." "While it is certainly not a promise, we will do our very best to release of 1.2.3 by the end of the week." I assume it is the first of these two that you find objectionable? Because the latter certainly is very explicit? But the point is: the hope WAS to release it. However, once testing on it commenced, issues were found. What you need to understand is that the alternative to the above, which I personally feel is quite explicit, is to simply say nothing at all. You won't get your hopes up because you'll be given zero information about status. There really is no middle ground there. You're told what the best approximation of status is, with explicit caution that this is an aspiration. And no, building an installer does NOT mean that "the patch itself is done". It means an installer was built. That's all. Installers must be tested as well. I am sorry you don't agree but that is how I feel as a customer. I know that, I'm just trying to show you where your thinking went wrong. :) And of course, I would generally hope that if you think something is strange in future - you ask about it nicely. There's usually someone around here that will be able to explain what things are. I realize not everyone knows how software development works, but surely you can see my point that if it's said that an installer is being prepared and it is HOPED that it will be released... doesn't this explicitly say that there's still things to check? If the installer preparation really was the last step, it wouldn't be a "hope", it would be a "will" release. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
cichlidfan Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I guess 1357 was the threshold. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
sobek Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Let's return to the topic at hand, shall we? Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Raven68 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Let's return to the topic at hand, shall we? OK. If I may ask sir, seeing what the show stopper is now and isolating the problem, what kind of turn around could we POSSIBLY expect on a fix and packaging up this puppy for possible release? Just trying to get a feel for a window of news. My finger hurts from pressing F5 so much. :music_whistling: ;) Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
cichlidfan Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Somewhere between soon and somewhat longer. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
gunterlund21 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Im guessing we will have it by April 1. Helo ramp start is a show stopper no doubt. Need that for the ground commander to call in helo support. Give them 2 weeks to fix that, another week to build the installer and test, 1 week as a buffer in case anything else shows up. I was in Art of the Kill D#@ it!!!!
Manuel Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Im guessing we will have it by April 1. Helo ramp start is a show stopper no doubt. Need that for the ground commander to call in helo support. Give them 2 weeks to fix that, another week to build the installer and test, 1 week as a buffer in case anything else shows up. seems legit by now PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
Raven68 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Somewhere between soon and somewhat longer. :doh: Thank you Mr. Comedy. :P Im guessing we will have it by April 1. Helo ramp start is a show stopper no doubt. Need that for the ground commander to call in helo support. Give them 2 weeks to fix that, another week to build the installer and test, 1 week as a buffer in case anything else shows up. seems legit by now :lol: No it will not be that long. We are very close. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
EtherealN Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 OK. If I may ask sir, seeing what the show stopper is now and isolating the problem, what kind of turn around could we POSSIBLY expect on a fix and packaging up this puppy for possible release? Just trying to get a feel for a window of news. My finger hurts from pressing F5 so much. :music_whistling: ;) See here: Updated: the blocking issue was fixed today and the new installer will be tested internally tomorrow. Fingers crossed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Cowboy10uk Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 See here: Woohoo, that's great news and fast work :thumbup: Well done guys. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
Raven68 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 See here: AHHH thank you Sir! I missed the update of the update!! Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
sobek Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 OK. If I may ask sir, seeing what the show stopper is now and isolating the problem, what kind of turn around could we POSSIBLY expect on a fix and packaging up this puppy for possible release? That's above my paygrade. It all depends on how much time Moscow will allow for testing. *Purely technically speaking* it could be released any time ranging from tomorrow to never. :) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Cowboy10uk Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 *Purely technically speaking* it could be released any time ranging from tomorrow to never. :) :lol: now that's what you call hedging your bets. :thumbup: Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
sobek Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 :lol: now that's what you call hedging your bets. What'd you expect? :D;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Raven68 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 That's above my paygrade. It all depends on how much time Moscow will allow for testing. *Purely technically speaking* it could be released any time ranging from tomorrow to never. :) :doh: Now that what I call an easy out, but I respect the answer and will keep it moving. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
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