What is the best Joystick for this awesome simulation

dburne · January 11, 2013

That's twice in a week here i have seen the suggestion the hog is not good in other games. It has just as many buttons to map, just as precise and just as programmable to use in any other game as it is in dcs.

Where does this line of reasoning keep coming from?

Not sure, probably because it was modeled after the A-10, and developed in conjunction with DCS-A-10C, hence the perception is it is mainly just for use in that sim.

Well i can state, mine works very well for me in my other flight sims as well, in addition to DCS-10C, a WWI sim, a WWII sim, and a civilian sim, and soon will be used in BS2 as well.

I am extremely happy with my setup.

Picksplitter · January 11, 2013

I have always used the Saitek x52.... adequate until I can afford a Thrustmaster Wart Hog. The sad bit is if I'd just bit the bullet and got the thrustmaster, it would be 'paid off' by now....

Bite the bullet, you won't be disapointed!

leafer · January 11, 2013

It's the XXI century, bro :)

Oh, dear...

0utLAW · January 11, 2013

I have the X52 Pro and I have to say it does a pretty good job in this sim(not game IMHO). I would give it a 3.5 out of 5. It has lots of buttons, it's comfortable and using my profile I have mapped mostly all the buttons that are found on the Warthog. I still need to dial in the toggle switches on the stick base but for the most part I tried to map the buttons to as close as the actual hog locations. This profile involves switching between the profiles for the stick with the silver dial on the top right of the stick. This profile also does not require any in-game mapping. I figured if the game gets re-installed I don't have to change anything there.

The software and drivers can be a little finicky but if you follow these instructions you should have no problems.

Saitek X52 Pro Driver Removal.txt

Defiantly the Thrustmaster Cougar pack and the TrackIR 5 with the Track Clip Pro IS A MUST!!!!! NO COMPROMISES HERE!!!!! It is a game changer for not this sim but other games as well. It eliminates the need for multiple/larger monitors.

arteedecco · January 11, 2013

That's twice in a week here i have seen the suggestion the hog is not good in other games. It has just as many buttons to map, just as precise and just as programmable to use in any other game as it is in dcs.

Where does this line of reasoning keep coming from?

What I was getting at is that the HOTAS Warthog is a precise model of the Real Life A-10C stick and is therefore optimized for that application.

Totally agree that it is an exceptional piece of hardware that would work for any flight sim. It's just that for me the extra value in the HOTAS Warthog is in it's application for the A-10C and I feel that a lot of the value/justification in the purchase price of nearly $400 USD is lost when using it for other applications.

Now, as @metalnwood is indicating... the HOTAS Warthog is probably one of the best sticks (if not the best) available and would do you well in any application... just a steep price tag for lots of us.

"Snipe"

arteedecco · January 11, 2013

How come you "won't use rudder that much"? I use rudder all the time to make minute adjustments when using the GAU-8 and establishing crab angle during crosswind landings. Granted, I use X52 Pro handle twist, as I haven't yet invested in new pedals. (I've got a 15 year old Thrustmaster RCS with broken spring lying in the attic but meh, I don't think it's worth fixing)

Again, my recommendation was a value statement. I spent $40 on A-10C, $20 on LOMAC Platinum, $40 on FC3, approx. $100 on a stick (X52 about 4 years back), about $60 on the Cougar MFDs, and about $180 for TrackIR 5 w/ pro-clip.

What I was saying in my post was ... for where I'm at financially (which I think translates to plenty of other peeps, not all)... the pedals are something I can live without... more than a stick and more than TrackIR which adds a huge positive jump in the SIM experience IMO.

So... everyone is entitled to their own *wrong* (laugh) opinions, but that's where I'm coming from.

I totally agree that having pedals would be a great next step and that my crappy ole beat up X52 (twist no longer works... sensors are shot) should be replaced by the amazing HOTAS Warthog by TM (Thrustmaster). I would love all that... but... I can get by and have a great sim experience w/out those two items and save myself about $500.

So what I was trying to convey is... you can sacrifice some awesomeness and still have an amazing sim to fly by saving yourself $500 (pedals and Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog).

Oh... now you got me dreaming... can someone please buy me a pit because that would be sweet!... and 3 projectors that I can mesh onto a large 180 - 210 degree concave screen... thanks!!!! :music_whistling:

"Snipe"

Edited January 11, 2013 by arteedecco
Changed references to HOTAS Warthog joystick as a product of Thrustmaster (TM) not CH as I had it originally... dur...

CubPilot · January 11, 2013

Only need 8 powered hubs to run!!

And a Nuke Power plant to power the hubs !!! :megalol:

sapam · January 11, 2013

1. Any joystick will give better experience than a gamepad.

If budget is not an issue then Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog and Rudder Pedal from CH or Saitek ( I prefer CH for reliability )

If one want Quality but didn't have the budget for Thrustmaster HOTAS and Rudders Pedal then in my opinion the best option is the: CH Fighterstick, CH Pro Throttle and CH Pro Rudder

If one can spend a bit but didn't have budget for the above set. Then Saitek X-52 Pro and a Pedal either from Saitek or CH

If one still want to get cheaper then get Saitek X-52 ( optionally the Rudder Pedal)

Still want a HOTAS but on serious Budget then get Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X. This is the cheapest HOTAS wan can have at the moment.

And if one is with serious budget constraint but want a Joystick there are an Army of joystick available from Thrustmaster, CH, Saitek, Logitech and few others, which will surely fit ones budget.

Happy Flying :)

StoOopiD · January 11, 2013

get ya a Force 3D Pro for 75bucks

then get u one of these planes:thumbup:

dont get a x-52, unless u like holding a limp dic.lmao

Trim to center mode....what is that??????

EDIT:

Hmmmm.... "I couldn,t resist" IMO, i think there's too many limp dics and not enough hard ones. lmao

Edited January 11, 2013 by StoOopiD

Maachine · January 11, 2013

i'm flying with a logitech extreme 3d pro right now. i think it sucks. but, OP, i'd gladly box mine up and ship it to you if you really want it.

Maximus_G · January 11, 2013

And a Nuke Power plant to power the hubs !!! :megalol:

Which would be quite perfect, because, anyway, you need additional fingers or other pseudopodias for this to operate )

OverDhill · January 11, 2013

Well I had to send my new X52 Pro set back for a refund. After a couple weeks it kept losing the calibration which called for an unplug or reboot in Win7. Also I noticed what others have said about the huge deadzone. Yes there is a mod but quite frankly I am glad I didn't hop on that and void the warranty. I might try and pick up a used X45 set off Ebay to try. I have read it had less of a deadzone issue. Hard to believe that for $180 they can't build a better joystick. I would probably buy a Fighterstick if I had the money. I wore out the old Flightstick Pro I had then just replaced all the pots and was good to go. CH Products was much better at support back then. They sent me the new pots free of charge. I played around with the Pro Throttle USB when it was first out and was not impressed. I liked the X52 Pro one much better. Just wished the stick was better.

Right now I stuck my old Cyborg Evo back on and geez I can fly again. It doesn't have the wide deadzone so I am not oversteering the jet all over the place.

So has anyone else had lost calibration issues with their X52? How about the deadzone problem?

arteedecco · January 11, 2013

So has anyone else had lost calibration issues with their X52? How about the deadzone problem?

Oh yeah, definitely. In fact my twist is totally shot and I have to disable it or it just drags full right rudder on/off, the centering spring is pretty weak now, and the plastic ring (guard) that went around the base of the stick got ruined from too much flying.

My one beef with the X52 is that it's moment and "throw" is too much. It is sort of awkward to me and you feel like you're really moving it through a lot of travel... trying to figure out best way to explain... I think basically teh stick is too high which makes it feel / fly weird to me when sitting atop the comp desk. I don't have a center pedestal or stand which would be nice.

But I figure... I can buy 3 - 4 X52 (not pro) for the price of 1 TM HOTAS Warthog, which saddens me because that stick is smooth as butter, weighted well with a heavy base, and very precise.

Would just be super nice to have... but economics are just a b__ch! :(

Edited January 11, 2013 by arteedecco
Changed references to HOTAS Warthog joystick as a product of Thrustmaster (TM) not CH as I had it originally... dur...

Cali · January 11, 2013

I totally agree that having pedals would be a great next step and that my crappy ole beat up X52 (twist no longer works... sensors are shot) should be replaced by the amazing HOTAS Warthog by CH. I would love all that... but... I can get by and have a great sim experience w/out those two items and save myself about $500.

So what I was trying to convey is... you can sacrifice some awesomeness and still have an amazing sim to fly by saving yourself $500 (pedals and CH HOTAS Warthog).

CH doesn't make the warthog...TM does TM stands for Thrustmaster.

CH

http://www.chproducts.com/Consumer-Products-v13-p-124.html#5

TM

http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/platforms/pc

arteedecco · January 11, 2013

CH doesn't make the warthog...TM does TM stands for Thrustmaster.

Yeah, my biff... thanks for the correction. I edited my posts accordingly.

Cheers! :thumbup:

"Snipe"

Cali · January 12, 2013

No problem

JetBLASTER · January 14, 2013

Hi every one .I just got TM joystick and no rudder.With best rudder can I have to be compatible with TM warthog? Very appreciate any help. Thanks lots in advance.

BIGNEWY · January 14, 2013

I use siatek rudder peddles with my TMWH

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/pedals.html

MTFDarkEagle · January 14, 2013

Using these in my pit (with TMWH obviously :P )

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/compedals.html

JetBLASTER · January 20, 2013

Thanks lots and sorry for my reply ,Have a blackout and my pc been dead up to today.

Thanks MFTDarkEagle and BIGNEWY once again and all the best bros.

kgraham63 · January 20, 2013

I just got DCS Warthog and my Saitek X42 can't even match the quality requirements needed so I am definitely going with the HOTAS Thrustmaster. My motto is, "If you are going to fly and fly well, then fly with the right tools."

kgraham63 · January 20, 2013

People has asked me what computer I use. I am also a Video Engineer and Editor and I like to be on the move with my computing requirements. While a desktop system with lots of RAM and Graphics Cards will be my ultimate solution, I have am and using the following for Flight Simulation and HD Video Editing:

ASUS Laptop with 8 Gb of RAM and Intel I7 Quad Core operating at 3.85GHz

Dedicated NVIDIA Graphics Card with 2Gb of Ram on board

17.3 inch screen with secondary monitor attachment

snak · January 20, 2013

I would save the money and get the TM warthog stick personally buying cheap always costs you more in the long run as you end up purchasing the stick you should have got in the first place

Maachine · January 20, 2013

why buy a stick that costs an arm and a leg, when a person might not play this game for long?

sure, if you love this game, get a TM warthog. telling new guys to get TM warthogs is crazy......i think

Edited January 20, 2013 by Maachine

danilop · January 20, 2013

It makes sense to get a basic and cheap HOTAS when starting out, especially if new to the genre.

With something like Thrustamster T.Flight HOTAS X you're not getting a second mortgage and it's perfectly adequate to see if hard core flight simulators are your thing.

If you get hooked, then upgrade to whatever you can afford. If not, you will have perfect joystick for BF3 or simple PC/PS3 flight games. In those cases TM Warthog would be very expensive overkill.

Edited January 20, 2013 by danilop

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