JonTex Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Ya know it has been awhile since i looked at this game title back when it was a mess and im sure we all have heard of it. But giving it another look aint a bad idea. You know there are some of us who would love to see our favorite aircraft modeled in a flight sim. Im thinking even if they dont have my favorite jet after reading this article its only a matter of time.:D LMAO sorry guys i forgot to post the link. Im retarded here it is. Link: http://www.simhq.com/_air4/air_133a.html [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SuperKungFu Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 yea i don't quite get what he is saying...I'm guessing he's talking about lomac. or maybe it sounds like fighterops...go figure. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
upyr1 Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 must be then though there is the strike fighters link the question is.. if this could really hold a candle to the great bonfire that is LO MAC?
upyr1 Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 looking at it no..not realistic enough..but since it is 'Nam era can any one comment on wings over viet nam?
Prophet_169th Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Has anyone flown it? How good is the realism?
JonTex Posted December 2, 2005 Author Posted December 2, 2005 Well I flew SF project 1 and it was bad i mean baaaaaaaaad. But if you read the article i dont know, it has been heavily modded by enthusiast that have done a complete 180 with the gameplay. At the time the flight models were accurate but that was about it. The rest is explained in the article way better than i could ever explain but for $10 its worth it considering the mods are free, well a vast majority from what i gather. Well worth it gentlemen IMHO. True LOMAC is a bonfire right now but who gives you a sim that lets you take its code and mod it and on top of that the community that plays it has already done 99% of the work that you want done to it the other 1% is being worked on its a diamond in the ruff and only a matter of time before IMO , it surpasses LOMAC. Ive seen the graphics in this game and they are good. Not lomac good but they are way better than F4. Im going to buy it and give it another try. I think the best thing about it is if your favorite jet is not represented in this game (and i would find it hard to believe) trust me someone is working on it or you can just get the code that has been released and make your own add on its just that simple. The actual developer TK made this game so that people would mod his game. I think this is revoulutionary just thought i would share it with the community since i know a lot of us arent happy with the same flyable aircraft. TEX out [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MGonzales Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Strike Fighters Project-1 is a fun sim, IMO. Circuit City has it for only $4.99 in-store or online... http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/Search.do?c=1&context=&keyword=strike+Fighters&searchSection=All I've read that the follow-up Wings Over Vietnam can be found at some Wal-marts for $10.00, but I've haven't personally seen it lower than $20.00. SFP1 runs just fine on my old non-gaming computer (1.7GHz / 512MB SDRAM / Radeon 9600 SE), 1024x768, all graphics maxed except Mirrors and Shadows turned Off. The follow-up Wings Over Vietnam doesn't run quite as smoothly on my rig. Officially, the era is '50s/'60s, but almost everything has been made a flyable in this sim... http://www.column5.us/aircraft.shtml Even fictional a/c like the Firefox are works in progress...:) http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=55;t=011630#000000 http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=55;t=011697#000000 I won't REALLY get into SF until it better supports modern avionics, although the community has already hacked in some impressive features. I'm hoping SF can one day give me the same enjoyment as I once had with an old sim, MicroProse's Nighthawk F-117A Stealth Fighter 2.0. Right now the only F-117 option I have is in Jane's USAF.:( This thread explains the fun of the old MicroProse F-117 sim and how SF might soon become a suitable "replacement" (read IndioBlack's comments)... http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=9479 This sort of thing isn't everyone's cup of tea of course (I wouldn't expect anyone here to think so), but it was something different for an air combat sim and I thoroughly enjoyed it. About realism, SF is considered a "lite" sim by its' developer but I don't know why anyone would have a problem playing the supported era with full realism settings. That is, if you're into old jets like the MiG-21... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=145;t=001281#000000 (check out all the pics) I can see why some might shun the modern (as it is now) and fictional birds, though. Me, whether I'm playing Falcon 4.0 on full realism settings are some mindless first-person shooter, I'm just looking for some fun and Strike Fighters is allot of fun to me. I have to admit though, flying the community A-10 and F-15 in SF, although excellent works, is more of a tease of what I have to look forward to when I get a new PC (Lock On already purchased).:p -- Mark
MGonzales Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Oh yeah, make sure to patch it. Most people felt SFP1 was incomplete before the patches. Also, the sim is considered lite but the community is working on things like flight modeling. Check out this thread by a real-life AV-8 pilot regarding the community Harrier... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=145;t=001428 -- Mark
bSr.LCsta Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Oh yeah, make sure to patch it. Most people felt SFP1 was incomplete before the patches. Also, the sim is considered lite but the community is working on things like flight modeling. Check out this thread by a real-life AV-8 pilot regarding the community Harrier... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=145;t=001428 -- Mark Dude, whats with the handi-sized letters? You don't have to yell. is this ok?
MGonzales Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Dude, whats with the handi-sized letters? You don't have to yell. Do my posts appear any different to you than everyone else's because they look normal to me. Anyone else see a problem with "handi-sized letters" and yelling? -- Mark
Yellonet Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Do my posts appear any different to you than everyone else's because they look normal to me. Anyone else see a problem with "handi-sized letters" and yelling? -- MarkLooks normal to me. i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5
Caretaker Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 who gives you a sim that lets you take its code and mod it Some do (Rowan's Battle of Britain or Razorwork's EECH have gone open source), but TK with Strike Fighters is actually not one of them. It's still a very open engine for sure, but core features for weapons and avionics modeling, AI behaviour and the graphics engine have to be developed by TK himself, not the community. That's why people were eagerly awaiting patches with new features like chaff/flares or the capability to display HUDs (and especially various fixes, because for sure the initial release versions were not exactly polished...). I think it's quite a remarkable project overall considering that it's basically one person only who develops the engine, but that does of course limit the progress. No question though, there's some amazing 3rd party work available, as the SimHQ article points out. Seeing that you should be able to get it very cheap, it can't hurt to check it out (just be careful with Ebay; you risk buying one of the "Walmart versions", which are horrible and cannot be patched!). Just be aware of its limitations. The planes and effects are nice overall, but the terrain is rather dull (best suited for desert theatres ;)). The campaigns, although dynamic, are a bit repetetive as well for my taste (haven't played it for many months now, so not sure what the current state is there). As for multiplayer, I guess as usual with modded sims, there's quite a bit of coordination required to get to the same standard when flying with someone else. And about the realism question: it has never been advertised as a "hardcore" sim anyway, and the avionics are certainly pretty generic. Best suited for some prop flying or 50s-60s jets; if you don't mind to have a generic 60s era radar in your Hornet or F-15 and no MFDs or IR displays, then that can be fun as well. Just don't expect Falcon4-level avionics there. Caretaker ED Beta Test Team
tflash Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 SFP1 is indeed a wonderfull sim. I play it for sheer fun and also nostalgia, since it has all these mighty sixties jets. For me, it was an entry in the sim scene and by getting online through SFP1 I came to know Lockon. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Guest ThomasDWeiss Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 It feels so dated compared to Lock On. Lock On kind of spoiled all other sims for me.
MGonzales Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 It feels so dated compared to Lock On. Lock On kind of spoiled all other sims for me. Ever play TAW? Here's a sim from 1998 that'll make just about any new sim feel dated in one way or another, including SF. TAW was way ahead of its' time, IMO. -- Mark
Yellonet Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Ever play TAW? Here's a sim from 1998 that'll make just about any new sim feel dated in one way or another, including SF. TAW was way ahead of its' time, IMO. -- MarkDID was a company that was way ahead of its time, just check out Wargasm, excellent graphics and animation... the explosion effects are pretty good for todays games even. It's just a really cool game.. from 1998 too. i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5
Revvin Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 No matter how you mod it that sim is dated and not very complex.
MGonzales Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 No matter how you mod it that sim is dated and not very complex. Yeah, but the mods sure are purdy! :) Again, I'll use the MiG-21 as an example of community works... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=145;t=001281#000000 (see all pics) The Korean War campaign is pretty darn cool if you're into the F-86/MiG-15. I haven't tried the new Cuban Crises campaign nor any of the WWII stuff yet. Some of these all-inclusive mods could have been sold as a separate new game! To my knowledge, no mods for SF have been payware so that's a lot of "dated" fun for $4.99, IMO. :) Some SF screens... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002864 A new SF-based WWI sim should be here by summer, for anyone who's interested. -- Mark
Yellonet Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Some of these all-inclusive mods could have been sold as a separate new game! To my knowledge, no mods for SF have been payware so that's a lot of "dated" fun for $4.99, IMO. :)Where? That sounds like a good deal :) i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5
Force_Feedback Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 One small question: have they finally included working ejection seats in SFP1 and/or WOV? Last time I played either of them they lacked it, and it really blew that as soon as you pressed the ejection keys the mission would just end telling you that you died and received some medal. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Shaman Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Pity I didn't know it was this good before (maybe I was to busy playing Flanker 2). Now I think I'll skip it. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
pudknocker Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 I own it and love it is a blast to fly the F-14. its easy to create addons for. the price is low, it is Some good fun but The lOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG "long" flights are boring
upyr1 Posted December 3, 2005 Posted December 3, 2005 Well I flew SF project 1 and it was bad i mean baaaaaaaaad. But if you read the article i don't know, it has been heavily modded by enthusiast that have done a complete 180 with the game play. At the time the flight models were accurate but that was about it. The rest is explained in the article way better than i could ever explain but for $10 its worth it considering the mods are free, well a vast majority from what i gather. Well worth it gentlemen IMHO. True LO MAC is a bonfire right now but who gives you a sim that lets you take its code and mod it and on top of that the community that plays it has already done 99% of the work that you want done to it the other 1% is being worked on its a diamond in the ruff and only a matter of time before IMO , it surpasses LO MAC. I've seen the graphics in this game and they are good. Not lo Mac good but they are way better than F4. Im going to buy it and give it another try. I think the best thing about it is if your favorite jet is not represented in this game (and i would find it hard to believe) trust me someone is working on it or you can just get the code that has been released and make your own add on its just that simple. The actual developer TK made this game so that people would mod his game. I think this is revolutionary just thought i would share it with the community since i know a lot of us aren't happy with the same flyable aircraft. TEX out I'll give it a shot may be the closet thing to the dream open source sim where we have excellent AI and on line play... at the cost not a big gamble spent more at arcades.
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