Handling Characteristics

[buedi]

Haha, that´s a great one :D

I´m sure I pulled a lot more once coming out of a dive, my pilot even nearly blacked out. But maybe I had just the gun left and nothing else under my wings. It´s good to see that obviously not only the Gs, but also the weight itself plays a big role on aircraft integrity :thumbup:

[ptako]

9G? My plane dismantled itself while pulling over 6G

 

 

 

Speed is also important here.

During your dive you started to pull up to 6G at about 415 kts.

Not too slow for a hog:music_whistling:

[Snoopy]

230IAS is with 100% fuel and a shitload of weapons (MTOW).

 

Add this:

 

100% fuel

 

2x Aim9

1x TGP

2x AGM-65D

1x GBU-12

1x GBU-12

2x AGM-65D

1x ALQ-131 (JAMMER)

 

This is a "full" combat load. Putting on more weight is in most cases bad.

 

Maybe if World War III broke out in Europe. But our realistic loadout for the present conflicts we're involved in is:

 

1x TGP

1x GBU-12

1x GBU-38

2x MK-82

1x LUU-19

 

Also remember, ED has (or had) real world A-10C pilots as subject matter experts when developing so yeah, is it 100% accurate, of course not, but is is damn close. I'd say yes.

 

I need to get a good gaming laptop, take that (and my Warthog HOTAS) down on reserve weekend, and get a few of our pilots to check her out. Now that would be interesting.

[buedi]

I need to get a good gaming laptop, take that (and my Warthog HOTAS) down on reserve weekend, and get a few of our pilots to check her out. Now that would be interesting.

 

If I hadn´t subscribed to this Thread anyway, I would have now. It would be great to hear what they say. Of course a Sim never "feels" like reality (no matter how well it is coded), but I´m sure these guys also know what numbers are and how stuff should work, what the plane is capable of etc... would be really, really interesting. I´m looking forward to it if you can make it :thumbup:

[Snoopy]

If I hadn´t subscribed to this Thread anyway, I would have now. It would be great to hear what they say. Of course a Sim never "feels" like reality (no matter how well it is coded), but I´m sure these guys also know what numbers are and how stuff should work, what the plane is capable of etc... would be really, really interesting. I´m looking forward to it if you can make it :thumbup:

 

I can see it now "Hey Col, I'm going to come by the pilot bar in ops after I get off work today so you can fly DCS A-10C." :megalol:

 

By the time I get there I'm sure they'd be a few beers into the afternoon so it would be interesting!

[GGTharos]

That's because you're heavy. Your wings have to support G*your weight of force. As you can see, removing a single 500lbs missile ( you know ... a maverick :D ) can make a big difference of around 3000lbs of force applied to the wing. Same goes for the fuel you are loaded with.

 

The ability of the aircraft to pull G is based on the aircraft's weight, as well as stores limitations (some stores are limited to 5g, and if they break away or bend they may also damage the wing).

 

9G? My plane dismantled itself while pulling over 6G

[Nealius]

Maybe if World War III broke out in Europe. But our realistic loadout for the present conflicts we're involved in is:

 

1x TGP

1x GBU-12

1x GBU-38

2x MK-82

1x LUU-19

 

There wouldn't happen to be a publicly available document with SCLs for the A-10 would there? With Falcon BMS I got a 2003 PACAF SCL list but it's mainly for F-16s (with an F-15C/E thrown in there). There's only one very short list for the 51st FW's A-10s and it's focused on Mavericks.

[Eddie]

I might have something somewhere in the mass of documents on my hard drive. I'll take a look and see, unless Paul beats me to it of course.

[Marklar]

That's because you're heavy. Your wings have to support G*your weight of force.

 

Yeah, I knew that. Just wanted to show my video ;). But thanks for the explanation anyway.

[Evil.Bonsai]

9G? My plane dismantled itself while pulling over 6G

 

 

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HA! First time I did that, I was pulling away from a manpad. I had just strafed something or other and got the missile launch (custom mission, with target and a couple manpads). I pulled away and my plane disintergrated. I watched the playback and was surprised to find that nothing hit me but I still came apart. Posted up here and asked what the hell happened. Someone was kind enough to let me know that hard pulls like that will rip the wings right off.

[RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING]

Nealius.

 

SCLs can varry by theatre, mission, exercises etc.

 

Back a few years ago Hawgs ran with Full gun, 2x 38s, 2 x 12s, LUU-19.

 

Recently the 12s went away to favour the GAU-8 to hit movers and saw 4x38s come in of different versions of the 38 for low cde effects.

 

I would be hard pressed to find any documentation from a government agency to provide any media with this info. But like me Im sure people post it all the time. Remember, just cause its an SCL doesnt mean a request may not ask for a different weapon. Super flex.

 

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[IonicRipper]

Don't forget: The A-10 is not a fighter. Its a tank with wings and a huge gun which just happens to have a twin turbofan jetpack strapped to its back which is just enough to keep it in the air. Its designed to have half a wing and half the tail ripped off and bring the pilot back without breaking a sweat.

 

Fighters = scalpel

A-10 = sledge hammer

 

See? This is exactly what i mean. And it literally just happened (damn MANPADS.) Can't do that with an F-16! (Don't get me wrong, though. I love Vipers.)

 

And yes i did just quote myself.

[Nealius]

Nealius.

 

SCLs can varry by theatre, mission, exercises etc.

 

Back a few years ago Hawgs ran with Full gun, 2x 38s, 2 x 12s, LUU-19.

 

Recently the 12s went away to favour the GAU-8 to hit movers and saw 4x38s come in of different versions of the 38 for low cde effects.

 

I would be hard pressed to find any documentation from a government agency to provide any media with this info. But like me Im sure people post it all the time. Remember, just cause its an SCL doesnt mean a request may not ask for a different weapon. Super flex.

 

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Well of course, that's why I was asking, as the only one I have is for PACAF. If PACAF is available I'm surprised any other theaters aren't.

 

See? This is exactly what i mean. And it literally just happened (damn MANPADS.) Can't do that with an F-16! (Don't get me wrong, though. I love Vipers.)

 

The damage model is my favorite part of DCS.

Edited March 28, 2013 by Nealius

[mjeh]

I can see it now "Hey Col, I'm going to come by the pilot bar in ops after I get off work today so you can fly DCS A-10C." :megalol:

 

By the time I get there I'm sure they'd be a few beers into the afternoon so it would be interesting!

 

poor guys gonna get simulator sickness :lol:

[Spetz]

Reading "A10's over Kosovo", seems a lot of the time they would carry only 4 x Mk 82's, full cannon. That's about it.

[Eddie]

The loads used in OAF were 2 Mav Ds, 4 82s, 14 HE rockets, ALQ-131 & AIM-9 or the same but switching the 4 MK-82s for 2 CBU-87s for strike flights. And for FAC(A), the same but switching the HE rockets for WP.

[Snoopy]

Reading "A10's over Kosovo", seems a lot of the time they would carry only 4 x Mk 82's, full cannon. That's about it.

 

One thing to remember is in Kosovo the A-10s were "A" models so they couldn't carry GBU-38s and could carry but not laser GBU-12s.

[WildBillKelsoe]

HSOT? LSOT? etc... anybd?