Have I shoot my self in the foot?

[HornetUK]

Hi all

 

I downloaded the A-10 yesterday but I did it through "Steam" the online game store as I already have account there.

 

I also the the free SU-25 sim world which I downloaded off here. Now obviously they are totally different programs as the a-10 is a stand alone version. Should this at all effect me in anyway. Future updates, making my own skins etc?

[Ebs]

You're fine. Download the A10 module for DCS World and use your Steam Key to activate it.

 

In essence you bought a key for the A10 so after A10 is up and running in World, simply delete your Standalone Steam A10 installation.

[HornetUK]

OK dont seem to be able to download it with out having to pay fro it on the site can you point me in the right direction?

[TZeer]

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/modules/dcs_a10c_warthog_english/

[HornetUK]

what about the fact I did not buy in on the official site and it say on that site All

"DCS modules should be purchased from one website account." will that be effected?

[Subliminal-SS]

Nope I did the same as you, but I bought my A-10 Before DCS world Was Released.

[GreyBadger]

what about the fact I did not buy in on the official site and it say on that site All

"DCS modules should be purchased from one website account." will that be effected?

 

No problem for you here Hornet. I bought my retail boxed Warthog a little while after release and well before DCS World. I have just downloaded as above, using my original serial number to activate it and it was plain sailing. :) Same for Steam I am told.

 

Badger

[HornetUK]

ah but if I what if I want to buy another product? will that be a problem? with it saying "DCS modules should be purchased from one website account"

[Davros23]

Won't be a problem Hornet. However, if you do buy other modules off this site use the same account for each. Now, stop worrying and go flying! :)

[pii]

what about the fact I did not buy in on the official site and it say on that site All

"DCS modules should be purchased from one website account." will that be effected?

 

Just download it.(You don't ever have to pay up front, only when you need a key)

Install it and on your first take off it will ask you for a key, use Steam key and your good. Actually if I remember it can even find your Steam key and you may not even have to enter it if A-10 is installed and activated in Steam. (But I may be wrong) either way you're good.

 

Now get to learning you have a lot more confusion ahead of you. :D

 

I don't know why the say to buy all modules at the same site other than they want to sell them to you themselves. However buying them from ED's site they do keep a record of your purchase and your keys so re installing is easier having all the info in one place. Just hope you never need their Support Dept because you will be waiting a long time for a response a LONNNNNNNNGGGGGGG time:mad:

[luckybob9]

Games bought from the ED store automatically have the serial numbers bound to the account. If you buy a boxed version or steam version, they serial are unbound and get bound to your DCS account at multiplayer login. Make sure your DCS World is fully updated, then download the a10C module. When asked to validate, just put your steam key in and you are good to go.

[HornetUK]

oh one last question caps my a-10 stand alone program which i bought of steam works better than the a-10 which is a module, I get little stutters in the graphics on the module version and not in the stand alone a-10 game.

 

When I eventually update my a-10 as I am sure there will be an upgrade if I buy my module on the DCS website would that key from that work for an update of the stand alone a-10 as well?

[HornetUK]

The a-10 module works just not as well as the standalone from steam, so what about as I asked when the a10 v2 comes out will I be able to update both the A-10 module and the A-10 stand alone (from Steam) with the DCS key code from which I get from the DCS?

[schkorpio]

The non-steam version of A10 is a more updated version, if anything it should stutter less.

 

My advice is to lower the graphics settings to everyone low,and see if it still stutters. (if not, start putting things onto medium, and eventually high until you get it to a point where things are smooth and look nice as well).

[cichlidfan]

I asked when the a10 v2 comes out will I be able to update both the A-10 module and the A-10 stand alone (from Steam) with the DCS key code from which I get from the DCS?

 

There will never be any updates to the Standalone version of A-10. The whole point of the progression was to eliminate the standalone products in favor of an integrated approach.

[HornetUK]

ok if that is the case which is fine why does the integrated version not work so well as the stand alone, same setting in every way but I get slight stuttering in the graphics sometime this does not happen with the stand alone.

[cichlidfan]

The standalone version was last updated well over a year ago. Many changes have been made to graphics, effects and the rest of the code. I am not saying that is the cause of the issue that you are experiencing, just that you cannot compare the two versions fairly.

[HornetUK]

I don't know how to fix this, in the stand alone I am running everything on graphics wise but if I use the module version I have a slight staggering even on lowest graphics setting. when I roll it is just not total smooth like in the stand alone

[GreyBadger]

I don't know how to fix this, in the stand alone I am running everything on graphics wise but if I use the module version I have a slight staggering even on lowest graphics setting. when I roll it is just not total smooth like in the stand alone

I'm not really much with the tech Hornet, so probably shouldn't be giving advice in that direction. But I do know that if anything the module actually runs more smoothly for me, than my stand-alone did. It doesn't make much sense to me that the opposite should be the case for you and my non expert feeling is that perhaps something went wrong during the download and you ended up with a faulty bit of code?

 

If there's no way that could be the case, I'm sure the folks here will quickly put us straight. But can you delete and download it again? It couldn't hurt could it?

 

Badger

[mnrty]

As greybadger say, i would uninstall everything that have with DCS to do, and install the newest of it all and only that.

I know that there have been several improvements graphic-wise and just all around in the sim.

If you post your computer speccs, i am sure someone in here can give you a better answer to your stuttering. At least rule out if its your computer or not.

[shagrat]

The standalone version is missing lots of improvements, some of them graphics wise. The new explosion effects, seem to need some optimization at the moment. Other things to consider is, that DCS World need to calculate more complex environments, with more interfaces for the modules and is continously optmized and updated.

It is normal that DCS A-10C standalone 1.1.1.1 has a little better performance compared to DCS World.

ED is currently developing a new graphics engine (EDGE) which will replace the current engine. Don't expect that in the next months, but somewhere in the future we should have a move to a far superior graphics engine, hopefully upping performance as well.

Some of the current issues are already addressed, others are on their way (Update patch 1.2.4). The good thing is ED is constantly(!) updating DCS World, not like CoD or other mainstream games that get some 2-3 fixes, and then you may buy the "new" Game, with "better" effects, and of course new bugs... :doh:

[HornetUK]

I have a Intel® Core i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti is that not good enought, brother who is into computer says it should be more than enough by far, what do you all think?

Edited April 15, 2013 by HornetUK

[shagrat]

I have a Intel® Core i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti is that not good enought, brother who is into computer says it should be more than enough by far, what do you all think?

It should be ok. The problem with DCS and many other games (most I know) is, that they can't make effective use of multiple cores or multi-threading at the moment.

What makes games like CoD, Battlefield etc. look so nice and fluid, is the utilization of DX functions that can be done directly by the GPU (video card). Nice looking effects, but not useful to calculate a radar beam, including refraction, dampening and reflection behaviour...

Now the later is exactly what a combat flight sim is doing. Additionally it needs to calculate the World / map objects for a 100 squaremiles plus environment with 60-80 miles visibility, AI and so on. Problem is: Only the sound engine could easily be separated and put to a second core. Everything else needs to be calculated on just one core... (I don't want to go too much into details) the end result is, your limiting factor is mostly the single cores GHz - 3.4GHz i5 is ok, 3.8 to 4.2 GHz i7 is better - the next bottleneck maybe the RAM though I guess you have 4GB plus with that rig... a performance between 30+ fps average, maybe drops below 20 fps around airfields is what you should expect at the moment.

[mnrty]

Exactly what shagrat said above. Also, some some effects in game still kill FPS on alot of rigs, such as tracers, flames/smoke(in a bigger scale ofc, not one tank alone) and some other stuff ive seen people stating around here.

Also, if you are running 1024 resolution with every pixel set in options, thst also may kill your fps, especially looking at a large area in your tgp.

[ENO]

I have a Intel® Core i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti is that not good enought, brother who is into computer says it should be more than enough by far, what do you all think?

 

 

I'm assuming you're driving an SSD with that? If not- that could be an issue.

 

Processor is fine- graphics card is fine... shouldn't be causing that skipping but I get the same thing with my computer driving a platter HDD.

 

Possible?

 

Also as mentioned above the 1024 in every frame is enormously wasteful and shreds your resources. Learn-ed people have mentioned that the displays in RL are only 512- so 512 (not every frame) is sufficient.