towsim Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 Yes, that is what I mean with selecting a radio. But I had a second look to the issue and found a real bug in the key activation. You can circumnavigate the situation if you set the checkmark: ‘Radio Keyboard Control for Clickable Cockpit’ In the configurator. The bug will be solved with the next release. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sabre-TLA Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Ok thanks Towsim. I'll try that. MapleFlagMissions - Read Our Blog for Updates
Looney Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 We had 32 pilots on our server tonight and Aries performed near flawlessly. Couple of points worth noting: - the Game Master did not reset after the person left. With the server full (32 slots) we had to reconnect that person and remove himself from game master position before somebody else would be able to claim the position. - Three times we heard audio breakthrough in where we were able to here everything in the channel for a few seconds. It repaired itself though. All in all, we are impressed by the stability of the Arieswing software. We had controllers with gossipbox (3 or 4 people max) and the rest was filled with A10's, F15's, SU27's and KA50. Chapeau! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo
towsim Posted February 26, 2015 Author Posted February 26, 2015 @Looney Thank you for the good news. It let me sleep relaxed last night.:) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
shagrat Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 About that "audio breakthrough", it may not necessarily be related to Aries. I had a similar "phenomenon" with CrossTalk FX... In a session last weekend. Could also be a team speak issue. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
PiedDroit Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Hello, I have a few questions for the Aries devs about starting TS as admin/user (sorry if this has been discussed before, I couldn't read everything in this thread). On previous version (1.955) I was starting TS as user and Aries was working fine, however on the new version (1.973Beta) when I try to speak in-game while TS is in user mode I get a TS crash, while it's working fine when TS is started as admin. I monitored teasmpeak using procmon.exe and I noticed that the plugin was requesting full access to the registry keys, I wonder if this is why I got a TS crash in user mode (null string, etc, I didn't send the crash dump to TS forum yet). I suspect that for the same reason I can't access the Export.lua when in user mode. So, the questions: - Is it possible to acces the registry keys in readonly when in user mode? - What are the limitations that forces the plugin to be started as admin? Otherwise it's working flawlessly for me, that's a really an outstanding job that you did there :thumbup: Thanks a lot! P.
towsim Posted February 28, 2015 Author Posted February 28, 2015 The normal user (non administrator) access rights for the registry are: HKEY_LOCAL_USER read/write HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE read only Unfortunately, all important setup data for Aries are in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. We plan for version 2.0 to migrate to HKEY_LOCAL_USER to avoid these troubles. I did not find a way to change the access rights programmatically. Therefore, there is no way for the moment without administrator rights to use the software. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
PiedDroit Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Thanks for the reply! Another question (dunno if this is the right place to ask), when using Eavesdropper, you must click the buttons on the Eavesdropper window to talk under this mode. Is it planned to bring back the ability to talk through Eavesdropper using the configured PTT buttons (that are used when Eavesdropper is not enabled)? Thanks :D
towsim Posted March 1, 2015 Author Posted March 1, 2015 Sorry for answering late, but yes, the eavesdropper will have a hardware PTT. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dooom Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 hey guys - some DoW guys tried this tonight in the p51 and it seems to be working fine... but now that i enables aries radio... it keeps trying to start up with each DCS mission... i disabled the plugin but it still fires up. is there any way to shut it "off" when i dont want to use it? ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
chromium Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 You can simply disconnect the plugin via Aries teamspeak menu. I suppose that when you disabile the plugin the export.lua isn't modified. Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
towsim Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 Chromium is right. The DLL, producing the Aries panel, is still connected, even if you disable the Aries DLL in TeamSpeak. You find the right function in the TeamSpeak menu under: Plugins/Aries Radio/Eport.lua entry on/off. Unpush the 'Connect' button to disable the entire Aries software in DCS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mr. White Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 We were giving Aries Radio System a try the first time using the latest TS client and unfortunately the TS client crashed as soon as I got a transmission on one of the radios. Eavesdropper mode worked well though. Any ideas?
HiJack Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Did you select "Run as administrator" when you installed Aries?
towsim Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 You experience the crash on the receiver side. That points to the Horizon bug in version 1.973. The Horizon is calculated every time a voice package arrives. Before you start the communication within a mission, open the dialog in TeamSpeak: Plugins/Aries radio/Radio Communication Quality In the dialog press ‘Game Master’ to get the right to change the configuration. Now unpush the Horizon button. As last action push ‘Send’ to make the new configuration active. Be advised, the dialog is available only during a running mission. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mr. White Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Thx a lot for the quick response. I will give it a try and report back soon.
HiJack Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Will you add the radio in the DCS Hawk to the list towsim?
towsim Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 Yes, this is planned. But it depends on the standards used internally with the Hawk. We need specific radio interfaces of a model available through clickableData.lua and devices.lua. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
towsim Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 To all participants of the yesterday stress test with the 132nd VirtualWing To verify the reason of the communication slow down during the yesterday stress test with Aries radio, I made some measurements with DCS, TeamSpeak and the network load. The calculations base on an 8 Mbit internet connection. TeamSpeak With the default setting of Speex Ultra Wideband at quality 7, the documentation specifies a bit stream of 25600 bits per second. With the network overhead for each package, the actual rate is (measured with Wire Shark) 37504 bits per second. As a result, an 8 Mbit internet connection should allow theoretically up to 213 clients speaking at the same time (8 000 000 / 37 504 = 213.3105). DCS I used a mission with 39 AI aircraft in the air and 20 ground vehicles active moving. The entire network traffic measured between the server and one client was 156 192 bits per second. The yesterday setup was about 50 clients which should cause a load of 1 875 200 bits per second for the radio, if all clients would speak at the same time. This would leave 6 124 800 bits per second (6.125 Mbits) for DCS. Conclusion The only answer seems to be, that the TeamSpeak Server is source of drag downs. The server has to receive the voice packages of all clients and has to deliver the entire amount to all clients. I have no clue what the server has to do beside this package management. While the client has only one connection to the server to send and receive, the server has to have a one connection per client. This means, each voice package has to be repeated 50 times, if 50 clients are in the same channel. If all are talking at the same time, the package management as to handle 50 x 50 packages (receiving 50 and transmitting each package 50 times). This is 50 times more than a client has to handle as maximum. An often heard argument is, that a conference of 100 people works with TeamSpeak. The difference is, that even with this number of people normally only one is speaking while all others are only listening.The Aries concept allows to speak at the same time for all participants in a channel, because they are filtered by frequency on reception. DCS has other problems which are not network related. The load I have measure is far too low to impact the network capacity. Since it seems, that we have reached the capacity of a normal TeamSpeak server, I would recommend not to exceed ~30 radio participants in a mission. Last not least, I want to say ‘thank you’ to the 132nd who gave me the opportunity to observe such a stress test. The same ‘thank you’ even to all participants for their patience during the test. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Looney Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 As far as efficiency goes, Mumble is far more efficient at managing traffic as opposed to TS3. Also, it's open-source and doesn't require licensing above 32 users. Have you looked into Mumble towsim? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo
Warsheek Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 @towsim, sorry if my question has been answered before, but I didn't find it. We use Aries only for communication for now. The problem is, that we are not able to hear tower, jtac and tanker. For example, tower responds and pilots without Aries can hear all the communication, but each pilot with Aries on his PC can't hear anything fom ATC. We are shure, that this bug is caused by Aries, because everything is works fine after Aries uninstallation. Do you know about this trouble? Do you work on it? We realy want to use this software, but it is not comfortable in this condition. Anyway, thanks a lot for your work. http://www.blackeagles.cz
Schleudi Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 @towsim, sorry if my question has been answered before, but I didn't find it. We use Aries only for communication for now. The problem is, that we are not able to hear tower, jtac and tanker. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2309082&postcount=787 regards Schleudi [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://ariescon.com Aries YouTube channel
dooom Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Chromium is right. The DLL, producing the Aries panel, is still connected, even if you disable the Aries DLL in TeamSpeak. You find the right function in the TeamSpeak menu under: Plugins/Aries Radio/Eport.lua entry on/off. Unpush the 'Connect' button to disable the entire Aries software in DCS. Thanks towsim! We will look forward to giving it another try tonight and watch earnestly for Bf109 support. Cheers, ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
NECK Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Last not least, I want to say ‘thank you’ to the 132nd who gave me the opportunity to observe such a stress test. The same ‘thank you’ even to all participants for their patience during the test. You are more than welcome! And this was the least we can do to support your continuous hard work to develop Aries which allow us to conduct advanced mission with our various aircrafts, and also the participation of other cooperating organizations. Thanks again, for your dedication to the community and your great support :thumbup: "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward for there you have been, and there you will always long to return" 132nd Public documents - Want to apply? - 132nd Youtube channel - 132nd Discord Channel
Mr. White Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 You experience the crash on the receiver side. That points to the Horizon bug in version 1.973. The Horizon is calculated every time a voice package arrives. Before you start the communication within a mission, open the dialog in TeamSpeak: Plugins/Aries radio/Radio Communication Quality In the dialog press ‘Game Master’ to get the right to change the configuration. Now unpush the Horizon button. As last action push ‘Send’ to make the new configuration active. Be advised, the dialog is available only during a running mission. Unfortunately it did not solve the problem. As soon as I recieve a transmission, the light goes on and TS quits. I have a dmp-file, if that is any help. I unpushed all the buttons (not just Horizon) too, but no luck. The options in the "Game Master" were reset after I restarted TS, if that makes any sense.
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