ILS/VOR navigation and interception.

[wess24m]

VOR/ILS Huey Tutorial.

 

Edited May 3, 2013 by wess24m
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[Vintovka]

VOR/ILS Huey Tutorial.

 

 

 

Excellent videos Wess. Very clear and understandable. What stick and pedals are you using in these vids?

[wess24m]

Excellent videos Wess. Very clear and understandable. What stick and pedals are you using in these vids?

 

Thank you, I try to make them so somebody just getting into sims can understand them.:thumbup:

 

I'm using saitek pedals and TM Warthog.

[Aviators]

good ;)

[BigToe]

Wess have you been able to get the VOR navigation to work? Not ILS but the actual VOR TO/FROM Headings.

[Nereid]

Wess have you been able to get the VOR navigation to work? Not ILS but the actual VOR TO/FROM Headings.

 

First switch on the NAV radio and tune in the VOR frequency. Then set compass indicator to VOR mode (upper left switch).

 

I have found these VOR freqencies so far in DCS:

 

GELENDZHIK: 114.3 MHz

KRASNODAR CENTER: 115.8 MHz

KUTAISI: 113.6MHz

MINERALNYE VODY: 117.1MHz

TIBILISI - LOCHNI: 113.7MHz

 

 

My own list for frequencies: http://nereid42.de/dcs/DCS%20Frequencies.pdf

 

PS: Hmmm... did you mean TO/FROM headings as functional in modern aircrafts? Well... then I didn't get this to work also. The compass indicator seems to be only working as a pointer like NDB navigation. I don't know if the real think also gives only the direction. The correct frequencies where my main problem to get VOR to work at all.

Edited May 12, 2013 by Nereid

[TimeKilla]

Keep the tuts coming bro learning more in the Huey about general flight practices than I have in the KA-50.

 

Loving it :thumbup:

[Sundowner.pl]

Hang on... how well is the Tacan simulated in DCS ? You should be able to use Tacan as VOR. For example the Batumi Tacan 16X, should be received as VOR/DME 107.9 MHz. Will try those out in an hour or so...

 

...or 135.9 MHz ... dammit, where are my books!

Edited May 12, 2013 by Sundowner.pl

[Nereid]

Hang on... how well is the Tacan simulated in DCS ? You should be able to use Tacan as VOR. For example the Batumi Tacan 16X, should be received as VOR/DME 107.9 MHz. Will try those out in an hour or so...

 

...or 135.9 MHz ... dammit, where are my books!

 

How do you translate TACAN to MHz?

[Cake]

How do you translate TACAN to MHz?

 

http://www.everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-0100-0299/download.php?spec=MIL-STD-291C.011561.pdf

[Cake]

Hang on... how well is the Tacan simulated in DCS ? You should be able to use Tacan as VOR. For example the Batumi Tacan 16X, should be received as VOR/DME 107.9 MHz. Will try those out in an hour or so...

 

...or 135.9 MHz ... dammit, where are my books!

 

TACAN doesn't necessarily include VOR. If it does then the station is called a VORTAC, not TACAN.

[Sundowner.pl]

What I'm writing about is actually the DME frequency on which a TACAN or VORTAC is sending, so you can't set a VOR radial, but use the DME as NDB. TACAN is using UHF frequencies that are outside of our NAV radio to use exactly as VOR.

 

...or maybe I need another cup off coffee...

Edited May 12, 2013 by Sundowner.pl

[Rongor]

You cant receive TACAN with a VOR receiver. These are completely different navaids operating in different frequency bands so you can not in any way translate TACAN channels to receive them in a VOR receiver.

[Sundowner.pl]

Actually you can... but not with our radio. We would need one that could receive DME signal, then you use this table to set up VOR/DME frequency (which will show up DME, and course to transmitter, but no VOR radial will be available):

 

 

use it for good :P

Edited May 12, 2013 by Sundowner.pl

[Rongor]

No pal - you can't. The table you present is showing frequencies to be set in a VOR receiver to have a connected DME transceiver switch to a defined channel in the UHF band to use the DME component of a TACAN. This is no translation at all. This is just a defined list to work around the fact that you can not interact directly with your on board DME transceiver. You use the VOR receiver panel for that. The then set VHF frequency in the VOR receiver wont receive anything. But the DME transceiver will know what UHF channel it has to use.

This issue is appearing repeatedly because folks misinterpret listings like that as a translation of compatible navaids.

 

What I'm writing about is actually the DME frequency on which a TACAN or VORTAC is sending, so you can't set a VOR radial, but use the DME as NDB. TACAN is using UHF frequencies that are outside of our NAV radio to use exactly as VOR..

A VORTAC isnt one single navaid. It is a VOR next to a colocated TACAN. Lacking a TACAN transceiver but equipped with civil navigation radios, this enables you to use the VOR together with the DME (of the TACAN) for the VOR location.

You also cant use the DME as a NDB because it doesnt provide bearings. TACAN (and its DME component) as well as DME are working by principles of secondary radar.

 

Coming back to topic, the Huey cant use TACAN nor even components of it, in any way.

Edited May 12, 2013 by Rongor

[Sundowner.pl]

No pal - you can't. The table you present is showing frequencies to be set in a VOR receiver to have a connected DME transceiver switch to a defined channel in the UHF band to use the DME component of a TACAN. This is no translation at all. This is just a defined list to work around the fact that you can not interact directly with your on board DME transceiver. You use the VOR receiver panel for that.

Exactly.

 

The then set VHF frequency in the VOR receiver wont receive anything.

Yes your right, I got confused going through the TACAN receiver manual, since that one receives in that band it will show on the HSI course to that navaid, typical VOR/DME setup on the other hand is not set up like that and can't home on the UHF frequency.

[nessuno0505]

I resume just to ask: is the VOR / TACAN / NDB list posted by Nereid still viable for 2.5 Caucasus?

[Ramsay]

I resume just to ask: is the VOR / TACAN / NDB list posted by Nereid still viable for 2.5 Caucasus?

Most are but Senaki-Kolkhi's Inner and Outer NDB's changed frequency a couple of years ago.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2678739&postcount=1

 

The 476 vFG Flight Info Pubs may be of use:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3387315&postcount=1

 

or search the Download section User Files if looking for an abbreviated list (.jpg) to add to your kneeboard

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/

 

I'm using an edited version of uboats DCS F-86 Kneeboard ATC Default Channel List v1.1 as the .pdf includes a word .docx file, so was easy to update.

 

However uboats table might not include everything you're looking for.

 

Note: there's less need for kneeboard Channel Lists since Airdrome Data is now displayed in the F10 map by clicking on an airbase.

Edited June 26, 2018 by Ramsay

[nessuno0505]

I have a pdf added to my kneeboard for the ADF inner and outer frequencies and for ATC channel numbers found here on the forum and taken from L-39 manual, and I use it for L-39 since it can almost only navigate through ADF. But VOR frequencies are missing, and with Uh-1h you can also navigate through VOR. Uh-1h manual is the least complete of all the modules I own (for example it still misses uh-1h history) and VOR frequencies are not listed (and I think they should).

Edited June 26, 2018 by nessuno0505

[fitness88]

I want to do more IFR flying so I want to add a TACAN station to all the airfields missing TACANS. I see how it's done for a tanker but how is it done for a static object to have as a TACAN station at an airfield?

[BlacleyCole]

Would you explain how you arrived at those freqs from the table

[Maddog Muttley]

OK I'm doing in editor a search and rescue mission use the huey and want a search freq on sinking vessel. I can setup tacan but dose'nt give an option for vor/dme

And which radio should i use