F/A-18C donations

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Brilliantly put Lucas. No way you're from hell :)

 

'Tis the username I put just to create an account at Mission4Today years ago, chosen for pure ridicule really, didn't think I'd be using it to post anywhere, I just wanted the downloads (for old Il-2 1946 pilots, the best around really - 14GB worth of skins :D ...but then I started posting and got acquainted with people so it just... stayed really :music_whistling:

[howie87]

I think we can all agree that ED need money throwing at them.

 

I'm going to run over there with a big bag full of the stuff. And carrots on sticks... hundreds of them.

 

It will be glorious...

[mmaruda]

Regarding making money by ED, why don't they try to capitalize on the manuals? I would gladly pay for a paper version of the DCS-10C manual, but all they have on their offer is the Shark... And then there is the Mustang, UH-1H...

[112th_Rossi]

I don't remember the last time I saw an advert for DCS World. Why doesn't ED advertise?

[Erforce]

Guys stop trying reshaping the world on yourselves :smartass:

 

If ED wants money, ED can ask gently, and receive more money than selling a single hi-fi module.

But ED's producers are not talking in this thread (yet?), probably for some good reasons. It would be dangerous for them to say either "no, never donate", or "OK, why not".

They're already doing that kind of stuff with early beta access. but right now they have nothing to bring to us, please be patient.

This thread could follow the wrong direction with time.

 

Plus, don't try to feed the "Evil" Paypal. It's bad !

[112th_Rossi]

Just be glad ED hasn't gone down the pay-per-missile route :D

[GGTharos]

I'm sure that ED isn't interested. They have their own agenda, their plans change based on things you know nothing about, and they don't need your strings attached, among other things.

 

All I want to do is put my money towards a product that I want to see developed. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

 

We can argue about it all day but it's extremely simple to me. Donating is not the same as crowd funding. I do not expect a return on my investment.

[mmaruda]

So maybe this is something we could do for them - look at how much publicity Arma 3 got after PC Gamer started regularly posting news about it and how much Shacktac and Dyslexi have done to increase the brand awareness and introduce it into mainstream gaming. With DCS... there is nothing.

 

Maybe we should start a community project with YT channel and other stuff that would introduce DCS and simulation gaming to the people who still think Ace Combat is a simulator?

 

That would not interfere with anything here and could broaden the customer-base. Not to mention free advertising in gaming mags.

[GGTharos]

the problem with buying low fidelity stuff like FC3 just to "support the company" in hopes that they will make a DCS:f-18c is a bad idea because now they have "record sales" and think that we are all satisfied with this low level crap....

 

The medium fidelity stuff sells quite well with people who don't buy it 'to support the F-18'.

 

Now that FC3 is there top seller they are putting stupid energy into it instead of the cool shit we all are begging for.....thz for your support guys....now the company is moving in the wrong direction (mabey not wrong direction....but we just got set back another 3-5 years over low fidelity shit)

 

FC3 isn't their top seller because people bought it to support the company. It's the top seller because the vast majority of customers want this level of simulation. Also, it isn't delaying any high fidelity modules ... in fact, it helps them get here sooner.

 

No one has gotten set back.

[GGTharos]

That is a very nice idea :)

 

So maybe this is something we could do for them - look at how much publicity Arma 3 got after PC Gamer started regularly posting news about it and how much Shacktac and Dyslexi have done to increase the brand awareness and introduce it into mainstream gaming. With DCS... there is nothing.

 

Maybe we should start a community project with YT channel and other stuff that would introduce DCS and simulation gaming to the people who still think Ace Combat is a simulator?

 

That would not interfere with anything here and could broaden the customer-base. Not to mention free advertising in gaming mags.

[MonnieRock]

the problem with buying low fidelity stuff like FC3 just to "support the company" in hopes that they will make a DCS:f-18c is a bad idea because now they have "record sales" and think that we are all satisfied with this low level crap....

 

 

Now that FC3 is there top seller they are putting stupid energy into it instead of the cool shit we all are begging for.....thz for your support guys....now the company is moving in the wrong direction (mabey not wrong direction....but we just got set back another 3-5 years over low fidelity shit)

 

Feel this way about my FC3 purchase. My good intensions of "Support ED" have backfired. :noexpression:

 

I got FC3 to support ED and Carrier landings with the Su-33 only. Not because I enjoy low-mid level simulations.

 

Seems to be clear here, the active people on the forums (a portion of ED customers) interests are in high fidelity study simulators

 

Thank you,

Monnie

Edited May 10, 2013 by MonnieRock

[112th_Rossi]

FC3 might be it's highest seller, but only because it was late to the game. In that time A10C sales of probably dwindled.

[howie87]

I'm sure that ED isn't interested. They have their own agenda, their plans change based on things you know nothing about, and they don't need your strings attached, among other things.

 

I don't appreciate your condescending attitude. I am aware that ED is a business like any other and while you may be a respected member of the community, that doesn't give you the right to make personal judgements regarding my character.

 

Any opinions you have regarding how ED may perceive me and my intentions are speculative at best and should be stated as such.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Kind reminder: as GGTharos (and half the forum) already put, AFM Su-27/F-15C are not separate developments taking up resources, but merely a milestone on the road to DCS. You can think of it as an early build - AFM and 3D is ready, work still being done on systems and avionics.

 

howie, I believe he was speaking in a general sense (with you being the community), rather than judging you as a person :)

[104th_Crunch]

I'm sure that ED isn't interested...

 

 

...and while you may be a respected member of the community...

 

GG Respected? When did that happen? :D

[NineLine]

So no one likes my bake sale idea? They could shape the cookies like F-18s?

[Rusty_M]

I want F-14 cookies (with moveable wings)

[GeorgeLKMT]

So no one likes my bake sale idea? They could shape the cookies like F-18s?

 

I would definitely buy hornet cookies. :music_whistling::lol:

[Lucas_From_Hell]

SiThSpAwN, now THAT is something that'd delay F/A-18C :D plus, I'm not too confident in their baking skills - they can sure CODE/model in 3D a cookie but making one edible? :music_whistling:

[Rusty_M]

Does the cookie have AFM and accurately modeled chocolate chips? I don't want no lo-fi cookie crap! None of your arcade digestives here!

[Lucas_From_Hell]

We should have DCS:Cookie, with AFM and damage model that simulates each bit as it gets hit by teeth or SAM. :smartass:

[Scoggs]

Feel this way about my FC3 purchase. My good intensions of "Support ED" have backfired. :noexpression:

 

I got FC3 to support ED and Carrier landings with the Su-33 only. Not because I enjoy low-mid level simulations.

 

Seems to be clear here, the active people on the forums (a portion of ED customers) interests are in high fidelity study simulators

 

Thank you,

Monnie

 

I only bought FC3 for two reasons

 

1.To support ED in a A10c level Fast Mover(preferably the Hornet)

2. So i can fly fast

 

But TBH I still fly the A10C more due to the detail in everything. The High fidelity is why I am here.

 

Also I wouldn't mind a kickstarter. Would be cool. Or even donations because I like supporting developers I like. That is why I own P51 and the VRS Tac-Pack even though I don't use them.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

So maybe this is something we could do for them - look at how much publicity Arma 3 got after PC Gamer started regularly posting news about it and how much Shacktac and Dyslexi have done to increase the brand awareness and introduce it into mainstream gaming. With DCS... there is nothing.

 

Maybe we should start a community project with YT channel and other stuff that would introduce DCS and simulation gaming to the people who still think Ace Combat is a simulator?

 

That would not interfere with anything here and could broaden the customer-base. Not to mention free advertising in gaming mags.

 

 

 

thats a very interesting point of view!!

while im sure, many here are trying to do that already(myself included), with making videos, or talking about DCS with their friends, some kind of "organized" commercials by the community would be something new and probably could help a lot.

but how do we achieve that?

[Lucas_From_Hell]

BeachAV8R is doing that - setting the example :thumbup:

 

That is a topic I've been stressing in my frequent articles about DCS in PC Pilot magazine - that indeed DCS and DCS modules are a fantastic standalone flight simulator as well as a great combat flight simulator. Our readers at PC Pilot have a long history with Microsoft Flight Simulator products and it will no doubt continue to be the core of our topics. But over the years we've been incorporating more and more alternatives such as Rise of Flight and DCS.

 

I've been fortunate to be able to showcase some of the DCS lineup with six feature articles, and two recurring series training articles for the Ka-50 (6 issues) and the continuing series with the A-10C (we are now on the 8th tutorial issue next month for that). We will be featuring the UH-1H in our next issue.

 

Throughout, I've stressed to our somewhat civil aviation minded readers that something like the Ka-50 or A-10C is actually comparable or beyond something you'd see from Level D or Carenado products. Additionally, you have a whole interactive theater and weapons and combat if you so choose to use them. But the point is, you don't have to use the weapons or play it as a combat flight simulator - you can really enjoy it as a fine simulator in its own right.

 

I think great things are ahead for DCS - with even wider appeal and a broad spectrum of modules. It will be great when scenery or theater development really starts advancing.

 

Chris "BeachAV8R" Frishmuth

 

Full disclosure: I write for PC Pilot and I love DCS products.. <g>

[GodsPrototype]

I only bought FC3 for two reasons

 

1.To support ED in a A10c level Fast Mover(preferably the Hornet)

2. So i can fly fast

 

But TBH I still fly the A10C more due to the detail in everything. The High fidelity is why I am here.

 

Also I wouldn't mind a kickstarter. Would be cool. Or even donations because I like supporting developers I like. That is why I own P51 and the VRS Tac-Pack even though I don't use them.

 

This is the exact same situation with me. Flaming Cliffs may be their most successful line of products, but that doesn't mean that it's what the customers want. I bought FC3 for the same reason, simply to support ED in their development to create more high fidelity aircraft. I bought FC3, BS2 and the P-51D, but I hardly use those three. I mainly use the A-10C, but I bought all those other products to support ED.

 

So please ED, develop HIGH FIDELITY aircraft ONLY outside of Flaming Cliffs.