Goof Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Hi guys, went to try out one of the default missions in the A-10 folder, only to have the right engine fail as I was halfway down the runway :( As you can see from the track, I spun the yaw trim to the left, throttled back and tried to takeoff before I ran out of runway. I had to replay the track a few times to avoid the wingman, and, well, probably shouldn't have jettisoned the weapons that close to the ground, but I wasn't keen on trying to stop on the grass; plus it was the only way I could get the plane in the air. I also realise I let the fire burn for way too long, but as I am still a very new pilot, I had my hands full trying to keep it in the air without stalling. After yet another track replay, I tried throttling back immediately after the engine cuts out, but it still catches fire shortly after, rendering me with an engine full of suppressant that will not restart later anyway :( The mission started me on the runway ready to go, all I did was derp around with the TAD a little, turn on the TGP and set the autopilot to Path mode. My main question is, what happened to the engine, and is there anything I could've done at that point to salvage it? I also realise I should've run the engines up with the brakes on, but any other tips you guys have will be much appreciated :DRight engine takeoff fail.trk
159th_Viper Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Sounds like a bird-strike. Takeoff, extend and land with one engine. Taxi to apron and repair. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Hamblue Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Sounds like a bird-strike. Takeoff, extend and land with one engine. Taxi to apron and repair. I would turn bird strikes off in options. The frequency of engine failures when used is unrealistic as noted in another thread. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
Yskonyn Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 I would turn bird strikes off in options. The frequency of engine failures when used is unrealistic as noted in another thread. +1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Eddie Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Not only the frequency, but also the results. A catastrophic engine failure and fire from a bird strike isn't exactly realistic. Not unless you hit some new genetically modified high explosive incendiary sparrow of course.
Snoopy Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Last year my jet came back from a sortie. Did my intake inspection, no damage. When I did my exhaust inspection I found what was left of a bird. Talked to the pilot, engine indication never fluctuation, no damage, nothing. I had another bird go down the #2 engine a few years back, damaged a couple blades but ripped a big hole in the outboard engine cowling. Jet made it make in one piece, no engine fire, just simply shut her down. So yes, the simulation that a bird causes catastrophic failure and a fire in DCS is WAY overkill. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
Hamblue Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 These are the only birds I know of that should cause the damage in game :music_whistling: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/wingsuit-flying-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.howstuffworks.com/wingsuit-flying.htm&h=267&w=400&sz=21&tbnid=_tW_XAJCVaoXYM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=135&zoom=1&usg=__NCc8krx0uEJwlaaAsscMktzwNNo=&docid=gQz2CE6xPoIGNM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yF-OUenYNNKy4AOa0IGQAg&sqi=2&ved=0CFYQ9QEwBg&dur=1618 Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
ericoh Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Not only the frequency, but also the results. A catastrophic engine failure and fire from a bird strike isn't exactly realistic. Not unless you hit some new genetically modified high explosive incendiary sparrow of course. Haha, hillarious. It would be cool to have Birdstrikes here and there without fatal damage.
Nealius Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Not unless you hit some new genetically modified high explosive incendiary sparrow of course. I heard Monsanto was working on one of those :D
Goof Posted May 11, 2013 Author Posted May 11, 2013 Thanks for the input guys, shall be turning bird strikes off once I get back :)
Yskonyn Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Do you guys know how they (used to) test bird impact and engine performance? Note the cannon at 0:39 :D Frozen chickens! Its also hilarious to see the impact testing on the windshield. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Hamblue Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 They still do it that way Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
Evil.Bonsai Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 reminds me of this: http://www.snopes.com/science/cannon.asp "Use thawed turkeys." :)
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GGTharos Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Not only the frequency, but also the results. A catastrophic engine failure and fire from a bird strike isn't exactly realistic. Not unless you hit some new genetically modified high explosive incendiary sparrow of course. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Yskonyn Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 :thumbup::megalol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
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