Cedaway Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Hi ED, Is it possible to have prop/jetwash effects in the sim? Is it compliant with the present atmosphere model? It could be a plus, a nice feature. Thank you for your work and dedication. :thumbup: DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder.
Silver_Dragon Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 P-51D has propwash: whether the helicopters have this, I imagine that too. Now that the latter affects the atmosphere, I think it is a feature not implemented. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Cedaway Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Right. The current prop-wash affect the generating aircraft itself but I don't think it affect the surrounding (in the crossing trajectory of course) aircraft. I don't talk about the visual effect in/over clouds but the physical effect: when me, in my A-10c / P-51d / whatever... I cross the wash of another aircraft, it could be fine to have the shake, the dynamic effect. Maybe a question for the specialists of the atmosphere (air) model. DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder.
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted May 27, 2013 ED Team Posted May 27, 2013 Right. The current prop-wash affect the generating aircraft itself but I don't think it affect the surrounding (in the crossing trajectory of course) aircraft. I don't talk about the visual effect in/over clouds but the physical effect: when me, in my A-10c / P-51d / whatever... I cross the wash of another aircraft, it could be fine to have the shake, the dynamic effect. Maybe a question for the specialists of the atmosphere (air) model. It's not that hard to do but it requires certain programmer's manpower. It's in our plans though and the materials are awaiting Lancelot to convert formulas to concrete code. :) Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
Cedaway Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Thank you! :thumbup: . . . :sorcerer: Does it help with that? ;) DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder.
sorcer3r Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 cool, then formation flying with helicopters will also be more intersting :) [sIGPIC]http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b582/sorcerer17/sorcf16-b_zpsycmnwuay.gif[/sIGPIC]
Bushmanni Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 It's not that hard to do but it requires certain programmer's manpower. It's in our plans though and the materials are awaiting Lancelot to convert formulas to concrete code. :) This sounds really good. I can't wait. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron
chromium Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 For helicopters could be really important cause there should be some impact in formation flying... not that much about behind the aircraft, but below it :) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
upupandaway Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 So great to hear. This proves again that you can count on those guys to gradually expand DCS into an ever greater sim environment. And it´s almost friday again - can´t wait to see what Wags has to say about EDGE (which hopefully he does). Cheers! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
howie87 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I'd love to see wake turbulence and jetwash but can imagine they would be hard to code. Wake turbulence in particular can extend hundreds of feet behind an aircraft and slowly spirals downwards. In light aircraft you have to fly a mile or two in trail behind the big boys just so it doesn't flip you over!
Maulkin Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 P-51D has propwash: whether the helicopters have this, I imagine that too. Now that the latter affects the atmosphere, I think it is a feature not implemented. Sometimes not? --Maulkin Windows 10 64-bit - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7 GHz - 32 GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM - EVGA FTW3 RTX 3080 - Asus Crosshair VIII Hero motherboard - Samsung EVO Pro 1 TB SSD - TrackIR 4 Pro - Thrustmaster Warthog - Saitek rudder pedals - Lilliput UM-80/C with TM Cougars
joey45 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 I wouldn't follow close to a TU-95 then... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
PLP Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Wake turbulence should also make A2A refueling more interesting. :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
aaron886 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Sometimes not? This is a great point. Did you make it?
sorcer3r Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 It would be now a good opportunity during the developement of F15/Su27 AFMs to implement this feature. Also non-FC3 pilots would get something in these quiet times... Especially formation flying would become really interesting for Ka50/Uh1/Mi8.;) [sIGPIC]http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b582/sorcerer17/sorcf16-b_zpsycmnwuay.gif[/sIGPIC]
VincentLaw Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 The swirls in that picture are caused by the wake vortices from lift generation, not jetwash. You can see the same effect here: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
rassy7 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 You make a good point. I watched way more of that video than I thought I would looking for it. Never did find it but now brain hurts from those Pacman "music" noises, ;-) How on Earth did you come across that video? The State Military (MAG 13) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] SHEEP WE-01 AV-8B BuNo 164553 VMA-214 Col J. “Poe” Rasmussen http://www.statelyfe.com Specs: Gigabyte Z390 Pro Wifi; i9-9900K; EVGA 2080 Ti Black; 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4; Samsung 970 EVO Series M.2 SSD; WIN10; ASUS VG248QE; CV-1 and Index Modules: A-10C; AV8B; CA; FC3; F-5; F-14; F-18; F-86; HAWK; L-39; P-51; UH1H; NTTR; Normandy; Persian Gulf
VincentLaw Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 You make a good point. I watched way more of that video than I thought I would looking for it. Never did find it but now brain hurts from those Pacman "music" noises, ;-) How on Earth did you come across that video?That link was supposed to jump you to the scene at 2:11 where the helicopter is "shooting" trucks. Just ignore the rest of the scene and watch what the smoke does. As to how I found that video... Eagle Dynamics made a Ka-50 simulator, and I remembered seeing it posted on these forums years ago. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
rassy7 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Ahh ha. I see. I'll go take a look at 2:11 and perhaps turn down the volume this time. The State Military (MAG 13) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] SHEEP WE-01 AV-8B BuNo 164553 VMA-214 Col J. “Poe” Rasmussen http://www.statelyfe.com Specs: Gigabyte Z390 Pro Wifi; i9-9900K; EVGA 2080 Ti Black; 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4; Samsung 970 EVO Series M.2 SSD; WIN10; ASUS VG248QE; CV-1 and Index Modules: A-10C; AV8B; CA; FC3; F-5; F-14; F-18; F-86; HAWK; L-39; P-51; UH1H; NTTR; Normandy; Persian Gulf
upupandaway Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 The swirls in that picture are caused by the wake vortices from lift generation, not jetwash. You can see the same effect here: Impressive (at 2:11) and very funny video - some kind of cross-over between Rambo 2 and the more obscure Troma movies...? The music seems out of place and is more reminiscnet of older horror/slasher movies. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
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