"Realism vs. Balance" - which MiG-29 for future project?

[SwingKid]

Disclaimer: I don't represent ED and only conduct this poll for personal curiosity.

 

-SK

[23rd_Drago]

MiG-29SMT...

[S77th-GOYA]

Poll? ;)

[britgliderpilot]

Surely the answer is "Both"?

 

I know the information is out there for the 9.12 and F16C - I'm not sure whether the information IS out there for the -SMT, and I wouldn't like to see ED fabricate avionics details for the level of complexity we're apparently going to get.

[GGTharos]

SMT. Puttin gin the F-16C without an equivalent aircraft on the other side would be pretty ah, lame, I think. Likewise for the other way around.

 

Even right now you can see there's issues with such a simple thing as the NATO side not having any flyable SEAD aircraft for example.

[KILSEK]

Is this a fair general assessment of the 29's variants?

 

http://www.twilightarmouries.ca/WingFixedWing/AttackJet/MiG-29.htm

 

If so I vote SMT.

[Prophet_169th]

SMT. Puttin gin the F-16C without an equivalent aircraft on the other side would be pretty ah, lame, I think. Likewise for the other way around.

 

Even right now you can see there's issues with such a simple thing as the NATO side not having any flyable SEAD aircraft for example.

 

Ditto.

[Harven]

F-16C ... not because I'm in the US.. but because the NATO side doesn't have a multi-role fighter... just for 'balance' is my reasoning.

[Iron Legionnaire]

This isn't a vote between MiG-29 and F-16C, it is a vote between MiG-29 9.12B and MiG-29SMT.

 

OR, "which would you prefer, MiG-29 9.12B vs. F-16C Block 50, or MiG-29SMT vs. F-16 Block 50?"

[Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN]

no contest, i choose the other one :p

 

on a serious note, it would have to be the mig29smt

[Harven]

Then 9.12B to make it clear.

[Kusch]

9.12B = more satisfaction

 

Realism = no compromise

[Scart]

This question depends on the year of the modelling conflict. But surely MiG-29SMT much more intresting to play.

[Dudikoff]

Realism = no compromise

 

What do you mean? Do you mean that these improved Migs don't exist or that they can't be modelled accurately?

 

If it's the latter, there are stil a lot of issues regarding current accuracy of the migs/sues. Look how long it took Flanker to reach current state. I would rather agree to some compromise which can be adapted as more info becomes available than to have a turkey shoot sim. It's not even 9.13S with AWACS/GCI. It would be pointless.

[Kula66]

If the SMT was modelled we'd end up with a 1990s F-15 v 2005 Mig ... hardly realistic! Although there are already a number of systems modelled that are way out of time frame.

 

I'd rather have more 1990s a/c ... F-16 (early block)/Mirage/Jag/Mig-21/23 plus current a/c all with AFM and WAFM than something which is just so unrealistic. Possibly plus some 2 seaters ...

 

If you want the latest Migs, give us Typhoon/Raptor ... which I know you can't because the systems are secret!

 

I guess this is turning more into a Russian a/c sim (which given that the sponsor is Russian is understandably) ... but it'll make online play much more boring if its just Russian v Russian!

[ФрогФут]

Indian Mig-29K :p

[TucksonSonny]

SMT :icon_supe

[Gazehound]

Indian Mig-29K :p

That gets my vote :)

[Caretaker]

I don't believe in balance, and I'm more into the standard models anyway. Now I certainly would enjoy flying an SMT or K model as well, but not at the expense of the vanilla MiG-29.

[Pilotasso]

I cant think how the vanilla mig could be left out since it is present in Lockon and since there is information for modelling it. I think ED should consider the option to add the Mig SMT in a later addon and put the vanilla Mig first.

 

This would allow the team concentrate on a sigle plane once the SIM is out, so we would have quality on both migs.

If theres going to be a second addon to the SIM, I would consider squeezing the F-15 and SU-27 in.

[Kevlon]

' None of the above '

[Starlight]

9.12, definitely.

 

I think ED has already modelled a good number of protoype aircraft.

If they choose the SMT, they don't have to complain if people call the game "Lock On Modern Air Testing". Instead of the desert or Black Sea they'd better set up the game at Kubinka or Ramenskoye AB :)

[VapoR]

If the SMT was modelled we'd end up with a 1990s F-15 v 2005 Mig ... hardly realistic! Although there are already a number of systems modelled that are way out of time frame.

 

I'd rather have more 1990s a/c ... F-16 (early block)/Mirage/Jag/Mig-21/23 plus current a/c all with AFM and WAFM than something which is just so unrealistic. Possibly plus some 2 seaters ...

 

I agree completely!!! The timeframe of Lomac has gotten totally screwed up. Even now, it seems that its comparing apples to oranges in some cases (pre-LASTE A-10 vs. Su-25T??).

 

BTW, I love it whenever anyone mentions the Jag--rep inbound!!

[BladeLWS]

Alright if you guys get your SMT, I want my F-22 Raptor muhahaha

 

 

But for real, lets stick with the timeline here folks. I wouldn't mind seeing a US carrier aircraft (I.E. the Hornet) heck it's pretty much already modeled they just gotta make a cockpit for it. ;)

[ALDEGA]

Surely the answer is "Both"?

 

I know the information is out there for the 9.12 and F16C - I'm not sure whether the information IS out there for the -SMT, and I wouldn't like to see ED fabricate avionics details for the level of complexity we're apparently going to get.

I completely agree.

 

I'd rather have a, realistically modelled, old 9.12 (based on sufficient documentation) than a modern 29SMT (if ED does not have sufficient documentation for the SMT).

 

they just gotta make a cockpit for it. ;)

Just a highly-detailed 3D cockpit, with clickable knobs, MFD etc..., a (realistic) ground radar (which is not modelled for any Lockon flyables), AFM, etc ;)