DCS: P-47D-30 Discussion

[fastfreddie]

Watched a video a few weeks back with P-47s taking off from carriers in the Pacific. The marines/army would capture an airfield on an island and the P-47 would take off and land on the captured fields. They would then be able to provide air support to the immediate region but couldn't return to the carrier. Can't wait to fly this plane in DCS. Any word on progress?

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Watched a video a few weeks back with P-47s taking off from carriers in the Pacific. The marines/army would capture an airfield on an island and the P-47 would take off and land on the captured fields. They would then be able to provide air support to the immediate region but couldn't return to the carrier. Can't wait to fly this plane in DCS. Any word on progress?

 

can you share that link? hard to believe that a jug could take off from a carrier deck even in a headwind,

[[DBS]TH0R]

One word: catapult. :)

 

Here, I googled it for you:

 

[Barrett_g]

can you share that link? hard to believe that a jug could take off from a carrier deck even in a headwind,

 

 

Good read:

 

http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eatdouble/%7E318thFighterGroup.Saipan.html

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Hmm interesting, but from what I know, catapults usually link in some way to the aircraft itself. PM me cause it's very interesting and i'd like to know a bit more about this particular circumstance and not get off topic in this thread.

[Barrett_g]

I believe they attached a cable to the mooring points in the Main Landing Gear in a way that it would fall away once catapulted. You can see the cable in this shot:

 

[NineLine]

This vid shows one way to launch a P-47 off a carrier :)

 

[Krebs20]

Did the p47 have a BMEP indicator?

[fastfreddie]

Starts at 26:30 showing the loaded up and continues throughout the launching procedure (catapults) to landing on the island. Great video overall.

 

[Evilducky]

Hopefully this hasn't been posted here, but field assembly of the P-47. Enjoy :)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2D3k0sJ8HM&feature=youtu.be

[JesseJames38]

I enjoy all these interesting videos and information. the one thing I am curious about in the news letter there is a guage at the bottom left that I usly see a altimter located at on all the other P-47 pits. Althought the one in the news letter looks like something else. or a very strange altimeter then what I have ever seen. It is the gauge just above the placard "warning: do not open cowl flaps above 225 IAS.

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=113685&d=1425053400

 

 

But I recommend this sight that really likes to look at cockpits of aircraft as its a nice 3d set up from the pilots seat that you can scroll around to look at things http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/virtualtour/cockpits.asp

 

 

Jesse

[fastfreddie]

Maybe its just a placeholder gauge but it does look strange. Guess we'll have to wait till we get closer to release to hear more or see if it gets replaced.

[sobek]

The small gauge inside looks like a suction gauge.

[AG-51_Razor]

Cylinder Head temp gauge?

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

I believe they attached a cable to the mooring points in the Main Landing Gear in a way that it would fall away once catapulted. You can see the cable in this shot:

 

 

Ahhh as I suspected, I didn't think that they would have used that method early in the war ( i might be wrong as to the circa) but none the less interesting. My second assumption was a spring loaded bar similar to whats used on modern day naval aircraft on the nose gear but instead mounted on the belly.

[Barrett_g]

Anyone know the full story behind this photo? Heard the pilot rammed a house....

 

[Barrett_g]

^ found the info I was looking for!!! On Pinterest though... Anyways maybe it's legit:

 

 

During an attack at low altitude, Raymundo da Costa Canário, flying 1st Brazilian Fighter Squadron P-47D #44-19663 , collided with an industry chimney which fell down. In the collision the P-47 lost 1.28m (50.394") of the right wing, but that loss of a part of the wing did not hinder it coming back to the base.

 

*edit: found more of the story*

 

1st Brazilian Fighter Squadron - Red Flight P-47D-25 "A6" Flown by Asp. Canario returned from a missions almost without one wing!

 

"In 01/27/1945 the Red flight (aircraft code: "A") took off for one more sortie, with the 1º Ten. Av. Dornelles as leader of the formation, and one young pilot called Raymundo da Costa Canario, flying the P-47D #44-19663 (the "A6" aircraft). Canario was originally pilot of the Yellow flight.

 

During an attack at low altitude, Canario collided with an industry chimney which fell down. In the collision the P-47 lost 1.28m (50.394") of the right wing, but that loss of a part of the wing did not hinder it coming back to the base.

 

Dornelles was his guide, opting to fly over the Adriatic Sea: over the land there was much Germany flak and low and dense clouds. Over Veneza some Spitfires had almost knocked them down therefore they had not recognized them immediately as allied pilots. After this "small" incident , Dornelles flew with Canario until 5000 ft, keeping silence on the radio.

 

The low and dense clouds made it difficult for a visual approach; when Dornelles found a hole in the clouds he told Canario: "wait for me here. I will to go down to have a look and and I will come back to to tell you if this airstrip is OK!"

 

Well, at age of 20, Canario ignored the acknowledgment and flew right back with Dornelles.

 

A few moments before Canario to land he heard on the radio: "abort! abort! A P-61 Blackwidow needed to make an emergency landing!". Canario pulled up the P-47, made another final approach and landed safely.

 

Dornelles flew 89 missions (he used to say "I'll never became 90 missions) - he died in 04/26/1945, flying his P-47.

 

Canario flew 51 missions. He survived the war."

Edited May 11, 2015 by Barrett_g

[SlipBall]

tough, good to know :D

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Just goes to show how rugged the Juggernaut really was, incredible stories that them and their heroing flights lol

[Barrett_g]

DCS is going to have its hands full regarding damage modeling! Can you imagine all the guys saying "look at this pic with half the wing missing," or "read this account where the cylinder was shot off." There will be a lot of people getting shot down and believing they should have made it home!

 

Just look at how they gripe about the P-51! (Though I admit the prop pitch seems a little out of hand!)

[IronJockel]

DCS is going to have its hands full regarding damage modeling! Can you imagine all the guys saying "look at this pic with half the wing missing," or "read this account where the cylinder was shot off." There will be a lot of people getting shot down and believing they should have made it home!

 

Just look at how they gripe about the P-51! (Though I admit the prop pitch seems a little out of hand!)

 

 

I guess a lot of these claims will be sorted out. A good burst of 20mm or even 30mm high explosiv shells will even rip this beast appard.

I believe ED knows how to make the Jugs DM as correct as possible.

Edited May 18, 2015 by IronJockel

[Solty]

DCS is going to have its hands full regarding damage modeling! Can you imagine all the guys saying "look at this pic with half the wing missing," or "read this account where the cylinder was shot off." There will be a lot of people getting shot down and believing they should have made it home!

 

Just look at how they gripe about the P-51! (Though I admit the prop pitch seems a little out of hand!)

Right now DCS realy needs a lot of work on the DM. And YoYo has confirmed it...we can only have hope they can get it to better standard with P-47.

Edited May 18, 2015 by Solty

[whitehot]

lookin forward to the jug.. I wasn't interested in ww2 planes, but then i bought the p-51, and liked it. The p-47 is one of my absolute faves in ww2, will get it day one.

Will never get german planes though - and I doubt british too.

yet everything american or soviet is a sure buy to me.

[Teapot]

Will never get german planes though - and I doubt british too.

yet everything american or soviet is a sure buy to me.

 

Each to their own. As for me, I'll buy everything with a propeller and preferably WWII vintage.

Historically each side jumped at the chance to fly and evaluate the adversary's planes and in DCS we can do that quite easily plus we help to insure longevity for the historically accurate flight simulation genre. :pilotfly:

[NineLine]

Lets steer the discussion back towards the P-47 please.