DCS: F-15C Eagle

[ALDEGA]

I was asking where it was stated that BST was developing EDGE, since he stated it was. I Personally haven't seen one post or announcement to lead to that statement.

It's pretty clear EDGE is being developed by BST. They even discuss it with some of the BST developers in one of Ilya's Youtube videos ...

 

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[blkspade]

I have one word for you , sir: Mercantilism.

 

Meaning, resources used for something else at ED (most of which I dont care about BTW including the F15C AFM) are resources lost for the DCS F18C. Belsimtek could either be retasked to help speed up the F18C or replaced by another developer to speed up some other aspect of F18C development.

 

Ever think that the best people for the respective task requirements for either project are already on the task. Its possibly that the F-18 is beyond the point that they could use Beltek, or no where near needing them yet. Or how about the probability that certain technical aspects of what required to get everything up to par in the hornet are reliant on other projects, like Edge. Something that no one working on modules could probably even be useful for. DCS Eagle could just be way nearer to completion, and have zero bearing on the progress of the Hornet, other than providing further revenue to help toward the Hornet. There are so many potential constraints to the development of the Hornet that it makes more sense to get the Eagle out the door first. Consider the fact that all we've heard about DCS F-18C is that its coming, while much more tangible info has been provided about a potential DCS F-15C.

[NineLine]

It's pretty clear EDGE is being developed by BST. They even discuss it with some of the BST developers in one of Ilya's Youtube videos ...

 

 

 

ED is developing EDGE, I think companies like RRG and BST are developing content using EDGE... that said, I am sure they have direct input into changes and fixes and such... being Partners and all... least that is my perception of it...

[ALDEGA]

ED is developing EDGE, I think companies like RRG and BST are developing content using EDGE...

For those with an attention span less than three minutes:

 

[EtherealN]

It's pretty clear EDGE is being developed by BST. They even discuss it with some of the BST developers in one of Ilya's Youtube videos ...

 

EDGE is developed by Eagle Dynamics.

 

RRG is an ED Partner company, and as part of their Kickstarter they made videos including discussions with ED staff.

 

To counter your inference: in the FM video, they talked with Dmitry Moskalenko, a.k.a "Yo-Yo". Are you saying that through appearing in that video, he is no longer working for ED? ;)

 

Crossreference the names and listen carefully to the video, and you'll find that several of the people in the interviews are ED staff. RRG uses ED's technology as a close partner. Nothing weird there.

[NineLine]

For those with an attention span less than three minutes:

 

 

Which means what? Everything is based on ED's tech... RRG and BST are using ED's stuff... simple enough... EDGE is being created by ED for DCS World... read into everything else what you want...

[EtherealN]

For those with an attention span less than three minutes:

 

 

Dmitry Baikov. (I think.)

Eagle Dynamics, responsible for systems, multiplayer and sound engine according to DCS A-10C flight manual.

 

;)

 

I see your 3-minute attention span and check the manual for 30 seconds. :)

[NineLine]

Dmitry Baikov. (I think.)

Eagle Dynamics, responsible for systems, multiplayer and sound engine according to DCS A-10C flight manual.

 

;)

 

I see your 3-minute attention span and check the manual for 30 seconds. :)

 

 

Is it something to do with Halloween today? Witchcraft at work maybe? :D

[ALDEGA]

Quote from the video (at 2:24): We're here in the beautiful city of Minsk where for the past year and a half a top secret new landscape engine has been in development for the DCS series

 

Why is it so hard for some people to accept that ED is not developing EDGE themselves?

As we know from the announcement which was since removed, BST are also developing the F-15 AFM.

Moreover, they have already developed several private simulation products which use EDGE.

[EtherealN]

There's always witchcraft. :P

 

In fact, a major halloween party going on in the guest-floor while I'm quietly remembering that I deploy to a customer tomorrow morning. I'm grumpy. :D

[EtherealN]

Quote from the video (at 2:24): We're here in the beautiful city of Minsk where for the past year and a half a top secret new landscape engine has been in development for the DCS series

 

Eagle Dynamics has a studio in Minsk.

[Steel Jaw]

My wife has a certain way of holding my attention...perhaps you could try that...?

[NRG-Vampire]

It's pretty clear EDGE is being developed by BST. They even discuss it with some of the BST developers in one of Ilya's Youtube videos ...

 

no, it's pretty clear they use the EDGE terrain developer tool for creating landscape/map/sceneries

 

but we dont know (yet) who created that EDGE terrain developer tool - probably ED made it with the terrain viewer tool as well

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1914797&postcount=7

what we know already: BST created Corsica and Alabama

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTDlThn-IaB6srKKoenL19w?feature=watch

[ALDEGA]

Dmitry Baikov. (I think.)

Eagle Dynamics, responsible for systems, multiplayer and sound engine according to DCS A-10C flight manual.

 

;)

 

I see your 3-minute attention span and check the manual for 30 seconds. :)

So 3D programmer is just his hobby? ;)

 

Eagle Dynamics has a studio in Minsk.

*cough* Belsimtek

[Silver_Dragon]

Avia build Corsica / Alabama, BTS build Mil Mi-8 helo simulator.

[SkateZilla]

Edit, Didnt mean to start a big ol' argument.. lol, just asked for proof to back up the statement.

[EtherealN]

So 3D programmer is just his hobby? ;)

 

*cough* Belsimtek

 

Areas of work may change. (And I may misidentify the Dima in question, "Dima" is not an actual name, it's a nickname - sort of like how "Robert" becomes "Dick" in english. Usually, but not always, on the root om Dimitriy.)

 

No, Eagle Dynamics has it's own studio in Minsk. Has had for a long time. This studio is not Belsimtek. It is Eagle Dynamics. Belsimtek is a separate company partnered with Eagle Dynamics.

[ALDEGA]

Avia build Corsica / Alabama, BTS build Mil Mi-8 helo simulator.

 

 

One of several videos posted by Dmitry Robustov (Dima?)

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTDlThn-IaB6srKKoenL19w

[SkateZilla]

You have an Argument for everything dont you?

 

How about, Some of the ED Partner Companies contain Current and Former ED Employees.

 

And there's a Difference between Developing the Terrain (3d Assets, Textures) and Developing the Engine that Renders it.

Edited October 31, 2013 by SkateZilla

[Silver_Dragon]

Check the video description please.....

 

High range terrain visualization

Cairns-Fort Rucker, Alabama, USA

presented by "AVIA" for I/ITSEC 2012

 

High range terrain visualization

Island Corsica

presented by "AVIA" for I/ITSEC 2012

[ALDEGA]

Check the video description please.....

It seems that BST developed it for AVIA.

[NineLine]

It seems that BST developed it for AVIA.

 

based on what?

[SkateZilla]

Check the video description please.....

 

Not to mention they were uploaded by:

Dmitry Robustov, I Wonder if that's the same person as "Dmitri Robustov" in the Eagle Dynamics DCS World Credits for Terrain.

As Well as Lock On

 

Google Produces Results:

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/8007-Abuot-LOCK-ON-Forums

 

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,120024/

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=92401

Edited October 31, 2013 by SkateZilla

[ALDEGA]

How about, Some of the ED Partner Companies contain Current and Former ED Employees.

Exactly, the one in Minsk is called Belsimtek.

 

And there's a Difference between Developing the Terrain (3d Assets, Textures) and Developing the Engine that Renders it.

It seems BST have both developed the engine, and several terrains.

[NineLine]

Exactly, the one in Minsk is called Belsimtek.

 

It seems BST have both developed the engine, and several terrains.

 

Where does it say that BST created the engine? I see that they used the engine to create a map, and even that is just assuming as I dont see that anywhere either...