Need new GPU

[RazorbackNL]

Hi all,

 

It is that time again where I need to do a serious investment in my PC. My current GPU's are really old for todays standards. I can't even play COD Ghosts because the cards are not supported by that game.

 

Based on the specs in my signature, what would be a good replacement GPU for my old GTX280's. My main goal is to give DCS World a performance boost. I am not sure if I should stick to Nvidia or switch to ATI. Not even sure if I want Sli again because there are currently so few games which support it.

 

What are your thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Fifi]

All depending on what money you can drop in, of course...but for low investment, i can recommand a second hand GTX 580.

I have one for long time now, and i run all good sims almost max settings everywhere (DCS, ROF, BOS, CloD, SHV ect) even on my native 1650x1440!

Reading about performances tests, it even reach some newer GPU in the 6 series!

Mine is a Zotac 1.5Gb, but i'm sure you can find some on the web, for not that expensive :thumbup:

[BitMaster]

Razorback,

 

most modern games do support SLI, afaik it is DX related and driver dependent and doesn't really need the game to be aware of SLI/Crossfire or not, but I might be wrong.

 

I had 2 x 460 GTX-M in SLI in my last gaming notebook and it never gave me trouble.

 

But if you pay your own electric bill and live in a country other than USA where electric bills are cheap, you better consider a dual GPU card instead of 2 x single GPU. The electric consumption with the coupled heat production is significantly lower on a Dual GPU card compared to 2 x single GPU boards in SLI.

 

Also noise may play a role, read the hardware tests on toms hardware guide to see how loud your favored card will be. Some cards are so loud that it is a no go for some buyers.

 

just my 2 cents to help you find the right GPU for your needs & budget

 

Bit

[javelina1]

if you read through the threads, it appears DCS is much more friendly (and responsive & performing) for the NV cards. :cry:

[Nopileus]

You have to stop spouting nonsense mate...

DCS is completely CPU bound on any system out there, graphics card is almost irrelevant as long as its current midrange or above.

 

@Razorback

What is you budget?

[javelina1]

You have to stop spouting nonsense mate...

DCS is completely CPU bound on any system out there, graphics card is almost irrelevant as long as its current midrange or above.

 

@Razorback

What is you budget?

 

No nonsense my friend.... I'm running an i5 with 8GB of RAM. Certainly not CPU bound. I've gone through the FPS "tweak" drills... have spent a bit of time on it....

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=117402

[ENO]

Yeah- the Nvidia > AMD thing is valid, and though some users have decent results with the AMD cards,the "out of the box" performance of the Nvidia cards seems to be less problematic.

 

We all have our favourites (I'm an Nvidia guy) but all I can say in browsing these forums watching the AMD guys talk about the issues they have (graphics wise, anyway), I'm glad I am.

 

Benchmarking and all other things aside- yeah... AMD is fine... in some cases better. But in DCS, in the CURRENT graphical environment... who knows. Nobody.

 

All I can say is a bunch of folks are swapping out for the latest and greatest... there are some 670 cards that should be available on the cheap soon- There are some that are actually based on the 680 boards... with minimal overclocking you can easily achieve 680 speeds for minimal investment.

 

Here's another AMD thread:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=117316&highlight=nvidia+AMD

[RazorbackNL]

I am looking to spend somewhere bewteen €500 and €1000. I desperately want my DCS MP experience to increase. I hate it when a helicopter comes in my field of view and I get a slideshow FPS because of his rotor downwash dustcloud. I do not want to decrease the graphic settings anymore. I want the whole 9 yards.

[xxJohnxx]

Hi Razor,

 

I have upgraded from a 560Ti to a 780 some time ago now. It helped FPS very much and I can run at very high settings, with 40+ most of the time.

The 780 is about €460 so it should be well within your price range.

 

Some days ago I got myself a second 780, and it did nothing to my DCS performance, expect creating crashes.

 

So I assume that you spend money on a single 780 or on a 780Ti.

Personally, I recommend the ASUS Direct CU II OC ones, but you can go for either model you like.

 

Best regards,

 

John

[cichlidfan]

Agreed. The upgrade from a GTX580 to a 780 was a significant improvement for me as well.

[taxman1]

Agreed. The upgrade from a GTX580 to a 780 was a significant improvement for me as well.

 

Same here, went from a GTX580 4mb, to a GTX780 3mb, and the improvement was also significant.

[Nopileus]

;1942490']I am looking to spend somewhere bewteen €500 and €1000. I desperately want my DCS MP experience to increase. I hate it when a helicopter comes in my field of view and I get a slideshow FPS because of his rotor downwash dustcloud. I do not want to decrease the graphic settings anymore. I want the whole 9 yards.

 

That is the CPU limit i am talking about, you might get super high max-fps but at some points it will just tank because of bad optimization.

 

Go for a regular GTX780 or non-reference R9 290 (once those appear) depending on what you prefer, paying more for a 780ti is pretty much pointless.

[Krupi]

I went from a ATI 5970 (Dual chip card) to a EVGA GTX 780 FTW and the performance pretty much doubled :)

[RazorbackNL]

Thanks for all the responses guys. I quess a GTX780 it will be than. I will try to get me one this saterday.

 

What exactly is the big difference between the GTX780 and the GTX780Ti?

Edited December 12, 2013 by Razorback[NL]

[PureEvil]

unlocked CUDA cores 2304 vs 2880.

[xxJohnxx]

In my opinion a single GTX 780 is sufficient. Runs DCS very well for me on max graphic settings. But if you have the money go for the Ti.

[Rhinox]

;1945690']What exactly is the big difference between the GTX780 and the GTX780Ti?

GTX780: 2304/192/48 (shaders/TMUs/ROPs), 873/900/1500MHz (normal/boost/gddr5), 3-way SLI

GTX780Ti: 2880/240/48, 876/928/1750MHz, 4-way SLI

 

All the frequencies are standard, but there are factory-overclocked versions too...

[danilop]

I'm looking for a new GPU as well. Gave up hopes that ED would take AMD cards seriously (OK, I'm waiting 'till march next year anyway, so there is a tiny probability that they will fix this huge issue).

 

As much as I think that all nvidia cards are plain and simple ripoff, I have to admit that DCS is one of the rare occasions where you are clearly better off going Nvidia route.

 

So, basically it boils down to some kind of GTX 780 performance (going for a single 1440p display).

 

I'm researching new ASUS MARS dual 760 ROG card. It is basically around 780ti performance level (even faster in most benchmarks, it kills 780 easily), it stays at the same temperatures and it's cheaper. The only drawback is about 80w greater power consumption than 780ti based system.

 

I am building a new machine on ASUS Maximus VI Impact mITX motherboard, so there is obvious limitation of one PCIe slot and it seems that MARS 760 is tailor made for such a system.

Edited December 18, 2013 by danilop

[SkateZilla]

I'm looking for a new GPU as well. Gave up hopes that ED would take AMD cards seriously (OK, I'm waiting 'till march next year anyway, so there is a tiny probability that they will fix this huge issue).

 

As much as I think that all nvidia cards are plain and simple ripoff, I have to admit that DCS is one of the rare occasions where you are clearly better off going Nvidia route.

 

So, basically it boils down to some kind of GTX 780 performance (going for a single 1440p display).

 

I'm researching new ASUS MARS dual 760 ROG card. It is basically around 780ti performance level (even faster in most benchmarks, it kills 780 easily), it stays at the same temperatures and it's cheaper. The only drawback is about 80w greater power consumption than 780ti based system.

 

I am building a new machine on ASUS Maximus VI Impact mITX, so there is obvious limitation of one PCIe slot and it seems that MARS 760 is tailor made for such a system.

 

For AMD, It's not an ED Issue.

the Issue is AMD Dropping support for DX9 Optimizations in their drivers like 2 years ago.

 

As for the ASUS RoG MARS, its only good in Titles that support SLi, and Use it Efficiently.

[danilop]

Not having DX11 support in year 2014 is not cool.

 

And there are plenty of reports that SLI is working correctly in DCS:

 

for exapmple:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1775960&postcount=1

 

Anyway ... I really want R9 290 (OCed to 1.2 GHz, cooled by EK waterblock), but ED is very quiet about AMD support in EDGE.

 

I'll wait, as I said, but ...

Edited December 18, 2013 by danilop

[SkateZilla]

Not having DX11 support in year 2014 is not cool.

 

And there are plenty of reports that SLI is working correctly in DCS:

 

for exapmple:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1775960&postcount=1

 

Anyway ... I really want R9 290 (OCed to 1.2 GHz, cooled by EK waterblock), but ED is very quiet about AMD support in EDGE.

 

I'll wait, as I said, but ...

 

EDGE will be DX11, so AMD wouldnt completely ignore it.

[danilop]

I've been grounded for a couple of weeks now when the old DCS computer got sold. So my patience is limited, to put it mildly ... :D