SPEKTRE76 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 I sure wish this would happen in the next three years! What about you guys? Here is a quick made up box cover I whipped up. :joystick: 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] NEED DESIGN PROJECTS FOR YOUR CAMPAIGNS? PM ME.
tarracta Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Can't stand these fellows which are voting for "no" here ... If you don't like it, don't buy it. The other people would have much fun flying a modern 5th generation plane, even if it's only modelled in Flaming Cliffs level... Was the saddest news to hear that Kinneys has stopped working on it.
jetsimace Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Yes, that was due to the fact that the Kickstarter project F-35A Lightning II by Kinney Interactive was unsuccessful - see
Scrim Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Can't stand these fellows which are voting for "no" here ... When there's a poll about whether or not the community would like a specific thing, it makes sense to include a "no" option. And for people to select said option if they don't want it. Because only having a "Yes" and a "Even more yes" option would be rather circlejerkish.
tarracta Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 This whole polling is quite useless... should be better "would you buy it" and then the answers "No, never | Maybe | Yes, I do" But so it's asked like we would have to pay for it even if we don't buy it...
Grinch Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Can't stand these fellows which are voting for "no" here ... If you don't like it, don't buy it. The other people would have much fun flying a modern 5th generation plane, even if it's only modelled in Flaming Cliffs level... Was the saddest news to hear that Kinneys has stopped working on it. People are probably voting no because they realize that producing this module would require assets devoted to a product that would be better utilized on something they would enjoy more. Would you rather have a T-2 Buckeye or an Mi-24 Hind? Polls probably would have been useful there too. Having a poll with just a "Yes" isn't much of a poll. [sigpic][/sigpic]
javelina1 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 exactly, the market will dictate if they will come... but of course, you need to have a pulse on what the market wants... :) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
ShuRugal Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 F-35 is much too new for there to be anywhere near enough unclassified data about its performance and operation to make a DCS-quality module, and I can't imagine that anyone would care to be on the receiving end of a fifth-gen fighter flyable by any twelve year old due to FC3-level interface in the MP world.
SPEKTRE76 Posted December 8, 2013 Author Posted December 8, 2013 Yes, that was due to the fact that the Kickstarter project F-35A Lightning II by Kinney Interactive was unsuccessful - see Oh wow I never knew about this! Why did it have to die!!!!? I beg of the modding community to make this plane for FC3. I can 3D model a little but my true contribution would be in research of aircraft paint schemes and re-creating them in PS CS6 and AI CS6. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] NEED DESIGN PROJECTS FOR YOUR CAMPAIGNS? PM ME.
Nage Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 I voted yes but to be honest i would much rather see an Su-35 ;)
Netsk Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 F-35 is much too new for there to be anywhere near enough unclassified data about its performance and operation to make a DCS-quality module Amen. Someone might remember me as 'FlyingRussian' from the Ubisoft Lock-On forum back in '03
tarracta Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 F-35 is much too new for there to be anywhere near enough unclassified data about its performance and operation to make a DCS-quality module Amen. Amen. For an DCS Module: true But for Flaming Cliffs-F-35 it would be okay to build the plane with the data you have and the rest by "Best guessing". There are still thousands improvements possible to the BF4-F35, even if much data is classified. Especially the STOVL would be a very nice feature... And the F-35 isn't too new ... a P-51 doesn't fit into caucasus either. But with nevada map a F-35 would be not so unrealistic :joystick:
Blackasaurus Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 I think if Kinney Interactive restarted the kickstarter it would be a lot more successful this time. I think the major problem was people did not know about it and it was too late to donate when they found out.
WRAITH Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 DCS F-35 hell yeah and a Carrier Ops variant For an DCS Module: true But for Flaming Cliffs-F-35 it would be okay to build the plane with the data you have and the rest by "Best guessing". There are still thousands improvements possible to the BF4-F35, even if much data is classified. Especially the STOVL would be a very nice feature... And the F-35 isn't too new ... a P-51 doesn't fit into caucasus either. But with nevada map a F-35 would be not so unrealistic :joystick: Well i back up the effort and many that love this bird would buy it! Dino Catteano's FSX F-35 is very impressive as is. You can drop bombs and fire Aim120's. imho, plenty info just guys gota work together and share the knowledge I think. I also support this effort :thumbup:
tarracta Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 What a joy to see this .... and thanks to all the guys who torpedoed that we could have seen this beauty in DCS :(
Scrim Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 How did anyone torpedo the Kickstarter? Not pledging money to something you don't want hardly constitutes torpedoing it.
Sharpe_95 Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Sadly the kickstarter failed and the producing company seemed to lack support in a lot of directions. For what it's worth I'd still LOVE to see it in game. Enjoy the next hundred pages of people ranting about how the F35 can't possibly be made at HiFi for this sim...... -Sharpe
tarracta Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 How did anyone torpedo the Kickstarter? Not pledging money to something you don't want hardly constitutes torpedoing it. look even here in this poll how many people don't want such an module.... in the same kind it was on the kickstarter thread .... yawn yawn yawn....
Rogue Trooper Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 This aircraft is about to become a major airframe for a lot of countries so the answer must be yes, but how will the developer get DCS quality out of such a new and highly secret airframe? HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!. Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.
MTFDarkEagle Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 This aircraft is about to become a major airframe for a lot of countries so the answer must be yes, but how will the developer get DCS quality out of such a new and highly secret airframe? Easy. They won't. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
sobek Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 How did anyone torpedo the Kickstarter? There was a lot of campaigning and concerted character sniping going on in the wake of the kickstarter. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
tarracta Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) This aircraft is about to become a major airframe for a lot of countries so the answer must be yes, but how will the developer get DCS quality out of such a new and highly secret airframe? Look 2 posts above at the Youtube Video how it works. Why has it to be an 100% realistic simulation? Noone here is going to fly a real F35 and has to practice in front of his own PC for it. Things that are classified will not be modelled or just how it's guessed most realistic. I hope DCS Flaming Cliffs will not become a plattform just for planes which are already 20 years in the museum, only because there's nearly every detail unclassified... Would love to fly a jet which is state of the art, just for variety Edited December 8, 2013 by tarracta
Scrim Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 look even here in this poll how many people don't want such an module.... in the same kind it was on the kickstarter thread .... yawn yawn yawn.... Saying that voting no is to torpedo something is simply nonsense. If there's an interest gauge poll up, then that means people vote according to what they are interested in. If people don't want an F-35 module, voting no in an interest poll doesn't torpedo anything. And the same thing goes for the Kickstarter; Demanding that people give money for a project that they're not interested in is just a 100% facepalm. What Sobek describes is torpedoing. What you're describing is your own butthurt.
WRAITH Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Look 2 posts above at the Youtube Video how it works. Why has it to be an 100% realistic simulation? Noone here is going to fly a real F35 and has to practice in front of his own PC for it. Things that are classified will not be modelled or just how it's guessed most realistic. I hope DCS Flaming Cliffs will not become a plattform just for planes which are already 20 years in the museum, only because there's nearly every detail unclassified... Would love to fly a jet which is state of the art, just for variety Agree, there seems to be this freaked out idea or fascination that every rivet, grease nipple and screw must be in place, with every nations variant. Plus every techno gadget that is and will forever be deemed "Classified - Top Secret" until the aliens arrive and share new knowledge as to how to traverse the skies. How are we ever to achieve and see an Air Combat sim with those mentalities and not enjoy the pleasures of a combat sim that can develop into further in its progression. You do what you can should be the "Motto", and common sense for the rest! LoL The FSX model is not bad sure it needs improvements, but you gotta start somewhere and build on that right. ie. first release Beta then Final followed by updates.......... etc ( Mind you its Free - http://indiafoxtecho.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/f-35-lightning-ii-version-230-limited.html ) The same would be said for a DCS F-16C and F/A-18A/C/D etc ......................... :doh: Just start somewhere .............. Please Edited December 9, 2013 by WRAITH
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 The same would be said for a DCS F-16C and F/A-18A/C/D etc ......................... :doh: Oh please. I can understand why you and others might enjoy the F-35, but don't pretend that the barriers to making a realistic simulation of one are no more than the aircraft you've listed above. The more modern aircraft become the greater their integration with other weapons systems too, making it even more difficult to simulate them realistically.
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