How do you fly choppers with no Collective lever?

[Dudester22]

I was going to give the choppers a try out tonight, but I was a bit put of by the fact they have a Collective lever. I am just not sure what to use as a controller for this and I haven't't come across any controllers that simulate this at the stores. So what exactly is everyone else using as a collective lever because it's not very realistic without one.

[SyntaxError]

HOTAS throttle for collective, slider for throttle. Would be the same with the TM Warthog, expect for a slider you would use the airbrake axis for throttle.

[SkateZilla]

I Velcro my CH throttle to the side of my Chair at an angle that simulates collective movement :), then use the Trim wheel on my stick for throttle.

[Dudester22]

HOTAS throttle for collective, slider for throttle. Would be the same with the TM Warthog, expect for a slider you would use the airbrake axis for throttle.

 

Got ya and you would be using the Saitek x52 right? I have both controllers so I think the X52 would be better suited to do this. I don't think I would want to use speed brake as a throttle on my TM Hotas.

[shagrat]

There is usually no need to manually mess with the throttle in flight.

Even the Huey has a governor... actually I never needed to adjust the throttle other than in an emergency. Honestly, even then it was just a helpless try. :D

[badger66]

HOTAS throttle for collective, slider for throttle. Would be the same with the TM Warthog, expect for a slider you would use the airbrake axis for throttle.

 

You use the airbrake switch on the TM Warthog , for throttle ?

 

How do you feel that works ?

 

Is it not possibily too much work for that switch ?

 

Would china hat not be more accurate ? Even the coolie hat on the throttle ?

 

Im just askin , cuz Im at work at present .

 

Thanks for the idea :)

[canadianbaken]

I use the TM Warthog throttle and split them. I use left as throttle and right as collective. You can invert the right so it feels right too.

[SyntaxError]

You use the airbrake switch on the TM Warthog , for throttle ?

 

How do you feel that works ?

 

Is it not possibily too much work for that switch ?

 

Would china hat not be more accurate ? Even the coolie hat on the throttle ?

 

Im just askin , cuz Im at work at present .

 

Thanks for the idea :)

No clue was just guessing, I got the X52. If the TM Warthog airbrake switch acts like the switch in the real Hog then it should work just fine for throttle control.

[Luzifer]

You use the airbrake switch on the TM Warthog , for throttle ?

 

So do I.

 

How do you feel that works ?

 

Is it not possibily too much work for that switch ?

 

Since the throttle really only needs to be moved for startup and shutdown, I feel there's just no need to put it on a separate axis. And the joined throttles for collective on the TM Warthog are much nicer to handle than just the right one all the time.

 

For the emergencies when the governor fails the throttle is still directly available on the airbrake switch.

 

Would china hat not be more accurate ? Even the coolie hat on the throttle ?

 

Why would it be more accurate? A switch is a switch and it's either pressed or not. You can't get more accurate than that.

[tintifaxl]

The airbreak switch for throttle feels strange: one side holds the position the other snaps back to center. I have it on the the left throttle and would use the china switch, if it wanted the throttles working together. Which I obviously don't. ;)

[SyntaxError]

The airbreak switch for throttle feels strange: one side holds the position the other snaps back to center

Not sure why it's acting like that, it's just a simple bands switch. Aft for throttle decrease and forward for increase. When returned to center position it should hold the set throttle, just like the Thunderbolts airbrake.

 

Edit: But anyway the questions been answered. There's tons of ways to have throttle set up on HOTAS devices. :)

Edited January 6, 2014 by SyntaxError

[Rongor]

I use the TM Warthog throttle and split them. I use left as throttle and right as collective. You can invert the right so it feels right too.

exactly how I roll

[esb77]

The other option is to build yourself a collective. I think PeterP has a thread on a very nice Ka-50 collective that he built for himself. In the home pit building section of the forum.

 

For most people though it's easiest to just bind it to throttle axis of your HOTAS. The function in terms of flight dynamics is sort of analogous to what the throttle does in a fixed wing aircraft.

[Buzzles]

I've just bound it to what would be the normal throttle slider.

 

In the Huey, 99% of the time you're running at 100% throttle, so the times you need to play with the throttle can be easily handled with the keyboard.

[xxJohnxx]

I have the collective on the normal TM Warthog throttle, and the throttle on the friction-lever-axis.

On one of the hat switches (Mic selector) I have my starter as well as governor rpm increase/decrease.

[CoBlue]

Saitek X52 makes a good collective, just invert the axis & grab the right side of the X52's throttle (where the big rotary is) as you'd grab a collective & have it on your side as IRL. For the throttle I use the small rotary. Works grate!