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No one is saying its impossible to land, im saying it needs to land a bit fast to match the correct AoA and glideslope, did you even read the original post?
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R530 and S530F are not guided by CW guidance, only Pulse from the same frequency that the radar emits on normally. therefor there is no shift in radar emissions when firing these weapons and thus no "launch" for the hostile to detect. However the hostile should be able to detect a lock as the radar is focused on illuminating the target. Even if there was a shift in the radar's frequency for guidance the French SARH missile are LOBL and therefor would be giving "launch" warnings even before the missile was launched, but this only really applies to the S530D on the Mirage 2000 as it uses CW guidance. the F1 shouldnt alert the hostile of anything more than a lock.
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Indeed it is for a "flare out" but not as much as you would think, the flare only brings the nose AoA up 2 more units as stated in the manual, where as in DCS in order to hold the same speed specified in said manual we need to bring the nose up about 7 more units, which needless to say is A LOT. as for a more aggressive flare to maintain the speed easier this would be possible but it would only make the issue worse as our AoA meter would be reading off the charts to maintain a sink rate that wouldnt explode the jet on touchdown. as for 150knots I do agree it feels better, the issue seems to compound the further down you go with the first affects being noticed at about 400knots in a turn. and as for sustaining this AoA, it is not sustainable. as you can see the F1 is on a very normal glide slope and any attempt at maintaining this flight condition in level flight even in ground affect results in the AoA meter being off the charts followed shortly by the jet falling out of the sky. To simply for anyone wanting to test, at 8700kg (20% fuel clean) the plane should be able to fly a 2.5deg glideslope at 150knots and decelerate down to 136 knots before touchdown while not exceeding 13 units of AoA.
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its literally the whole point of an AWACs, what good is an AWACs that cant tell you if theres something (especially a friendly) off your nose
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F1 feels like it lacks lift, especially on the low speed ranges near300Knts, I decided to run a landing test to see if the performance lined up with the manual. Conditions: Clean, 20% fuel, 8700kg at the start of final approach, no wind. Manual details regarding approach: Cockpit readings on landing approach: Tacview true AoA: Track file attached below. As we can see the F1 (even under 8700kg) is requiring too much AoA to land at the speeds it is designed to land at. AoA gauge in the cockpit is reading about 7(!) units higher than what the manual states is required to be held. This lack of lift really makes takeoff and landing distance more than it should be as well as more dangerous if we are trying to fly the conditions the manual recommends. This lack of lift also reflects on the energy retention and turn rate in a dogfight, making it worse than it probably was in reality. Mirage_F1_Landing_Showcase_at_20_Fuel.trk
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well, thats the fun part. I cant find anyone who knows exactly what it does either, I just know it was a different approach to filtering than the previous generations.
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Once we got that GCI we managed to win one, communication makes all the difference!
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This is a Cyrano IV-1 and does not have DATEP filtering
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refueling the jet doesnt appear to add the weight back into the jet. I was able to fly 2 missions and re-fuel, after the 3rd mission I was flying like a rocketship and my stall speed was somewhere around 40 knots. here I will attach a video demoing the glitch. accidentally jammed the flaps, but I think I got the point across by doing a 90deg climb to 40,000ft with basically 0 starting airspeed. MirageF1Fuel.trk
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This would be absolutely wonderful, necessary even. especially in the near future with Super 530Fs that will be able to be shot outside of VID range.
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correct as is Improper TL radar mode behavior (lock range)
Get_Lo posted a topic in Bugs and Problems
Shouldnt the TL (boresight) scan range be 6nm as listed below? currently 7km in game and in the module's manual. Cyrano IV manual info above, Mirage F1 manual below -
and you know, the ejection seat
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Roughly 13.5 hours away
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its only an MTI radar sometimes, its a Pulse radar all the rest of the time. MTI only activates on max gain and with a scan of 15 or 7nm
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The Laws of Physics
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if any F1 we are getting could theoretically carry it, the CE isnt it lol
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Didnt they write it off because they wanted to use the parts to repair a different F1 that was less damaged? hit by a manpad if I recall. IMO that seems like a more logical thing to do in a time of war, take 2 damaged jets and use the parts of the more damaged one to fix the less damaged one.
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it has a BF RWR antenna, not ALR-300. and all F1M and EE pictures we have seen have a fuel probe (I think) and theres this BE which is certainly not an M. the missiles are obviously placeholders as its and old picture. also the IRL picture is a CE 100%.
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we should be able to.... if we cant, thats rather odd
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Always nice to hear from the real deal, thanks for the clarification. so I assume the R530 was a monopulse missile?
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Here is what a Mirage 3 pilot said about dueling the F1 Mirage III versus Mirage F1 “The Mirage F1 was a completely different thing. They had a lot of advantages over the Mirage III: Better engine, 7200 kgs against our 6700; the aircraft was a ton lighter; it had no need for external tanks so always flew in a full clean configuration; automatic slats and flaps; and better radar and a HUD. Only the weapons were equal: Sidewinders and guns. To dogfight them was real hard work for us. We had to emphasise mutual support to stop them entering firing range. If we reached an advantageous position on one of them, they only had to zoom up and comfortably wait up there for us to nose down and generate sufficient speed to follow. Our only resource was the diving acceleration, so the usual tactic was fly towards them at full throttle, kill the speed to get a position to fire the Sidewinder and escape diving like hell. I remember the F1 pilots complaining because we always tried to avoid close dogfight. Our answer always was: give us your engine and your automatic slats/flaps and we’ll stay for close dogfight.”
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to be VERY SIMPLE and I repeat VERY SIMPLE (there are exceptions) Beats (generally): MiG-21 F4 F104 Mirage 3 Loses to (generally): Mig-23 (assuming you're talking about the MLA) Mig-29 Su-27 F-14/15/16/18 No clue: J35 and for those in the back THIS IS GENERALLY, im sure you're a beast in the MiG-21 and can kill many F-15s
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old RAAF R530K manual said something about the R530K being monopulse I believe, but as for S530F it definitely was. and I must clarify, this is more about the tracking type being "pulse" rather than the seeker being monopulse, as all that has to do with is the accuracy of the missile and has little to do with the type of RWR emission the hostile RWR would be detecting, as the missile is not emitting anything. Confusion might come from that the 530F was different to the 530D in that the 530D was CW PD guidance, where as the 530F was just pulse guidance as the Cyrano IV was found unfit for shoot-down interception, therefor no CW illuminator was fitted to the radar and the 530F just relied on pulse guidance like the R530 before it. however the seeker was a monopulse design, just no CW guidance. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.eurosae.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/R_Carpentier_Missiles_tactiques.pdf "Les autodirecteurs (Super AD 26) pour Super 530 F et D représentent, comme leurs missiles, les solutions matures pour l’air-air d’interception en mode semiactif. Ce sont des autodirecteurs monopulses avec la technologie des années 1970, qui pèsent 30 kg (avec le gyroscope) ; par rapport à l’AD 26, la portée est nettement augmentée, en particulier grâce à l’antenne de diamètre plus important. Comme pour le Magic, la stabilisation de l’antenne est assurée à l’aide d’un gyroscope séparé (ce qui évite la tête gyroscopique). Le radôme, allongé d’un facteur 2, crée des difficultés pour l’autodirecteur (aberrations), contrairement à celui de l’AD 26 (hémisphérique) ; mais ce choix a permis une réduction de la traînée. " Translation: "The seekers (Super AD 26) for Super 530 F and D represent, like their missiles, mature solutions for air-to-air interception in semi-active mode. These are monopulse seekers with 1970s technology, which weigh 30 kg (with the gyroscope); compared to the AD 26, the range is significantly increased, in particular thanks to the larger diameter antenna. As with the Magic, antenna stabilization is provided using a separate gyro (thus avoiding the gyro head). The radome, lengthened by a factor of 2, creates difficulties for the seeker (aberrations), unlike that of the AD 26 (hemispherical); but this choice allowed a reduction in drag."