Essah

They are actually exactly as they should be source: https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-SAM-Site-Configs-A.html#mozTocId491769 Keep in mind there wouldn't have been this many trees at the time it was in use.

The layout of the SAM sites in DDR corrospond to SA-5 (the big coffin shaped ones) and SA-3 sites (the smaller square ones) the layout of the sites in west germany corrospond to hawk batteries (2 sets of 4 launchers with a tracking radar each) see https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-SAM-Site-Configs-A.html

This is what you're looking for. These are declassified documents. https://irp.fas.org/doddir/army/fm100-2-1.pdf https://irp.fas.org/doddir/army/fm100-2-3.pdf However having read through these in detail i can say that WARNOs campaign is very accurate with its TO&E, so its not a bad ressource to use as well.

Updated list. If the moderator hadn't merged my thread with the other one, my master list would have been OP on page one, but what do I know.

What I don't understand with this criticism is that every single DCS map has repetitive Tiles, and its far far worse on other maps, Germany is arguably one of the least repetitive looking maps. Take a proper critical look at Syria, Sinai, Caucasus and Persian Gulf and tell me its not repetitive. Perhaps its more visible on Germany because its not just endless sand. nobody notices repetitive tiles when the tiles is all sand anyway, but even the villages are just if not more repetitive on other maps. Please take a look and tell me that Germany is more repetitive in actuality than any other map.

I had them removed for a while because I thought it was a mistake, and that's when Null was looking at it.

Updated * I had moved Patriot and SA-2 locations to Hawk and SA-3 respectively, thinking it was a mistake given that the layout of the sites is of SA-3 and HAwk type, but I have now added it back in with clarification. Seems that Ugra did not create the correct unique layouts for Patriot and SA-2 * added additional sites reported. * added some otherwise unmarked NATO radar sites

33/40. seven to go. * Updated my post. Since the post was merged you have to find the list near the end of page 1. * updated

see https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-SAM-Site-Configs-A.html OP updated with everyone's contributions. fixed errors Thanks for participating. We're up to 31, so we're missing 9.

As others have said, its not google maps, its not MSFS and its not meant to be 100% accurate. Why is everyone, since Kola suddenly holding every new map to a standard that they never held Syria or PG to?

It might be coming soon from ED, or be part of their Germany Assets pack

I've compiled a list of all the SAM sites I've found or other people have found and shared. Ugra have mentioned that there are 40 sites included with phase 1 This list is only for sites that have infrastructure in the Germany map. historical sites that are not present in game are not relevant here. Otherwise please contribute, I'll update the OP with your contributions. Be careful not to mistake tank ranges or collective farms for SAM sites. Name - Location description - MGRS grid HAWK: HAWK Site Fulda - Forest west of Fulda - NB30 HAWK Site H FRG 51 - Forest west of FRG51 - LV79 HAWK Site Schwarzenborn – between Fulda and Kassel – NB34 HAWK Site Kassel – North of Kassel – NB39 HAWK Site Hameln - NNW of FRG 16 - NC28 Hawk Site Lengenselbold - NW of Lengenselbold - MA95 HAWK Site Barsinghausen - 10nm N of FRG 16 - NC39 HAWK Site Wunstorf I - W of Wunstorf - ND11 HAWK Site Wunstorf II - N of Wunstorf - ND22 HAWK Site Bremen - NE of Bremen - ND09 HAWK Site Paderborn - E of FRG 11 - MC93 Patriot: (HAWK site layout in sim) Patriot site Giessen - east of city of Gießen - MB80 Patriot Site Rinteln - SE Rinteln, West of Hameln - NC17 NATO Radar Site Fulda Radar Site I - SE corner of NA69 (SE of Fulda) Fulda Radar Site II - SW corner of NA49 (SW of Fulda) Vogelberg Radar Site - East of FRG 38 - NA19 Warsaw Pact Radar Site Varnckevitz Radar Site - NE Rügen island - UA95 SA-5 Fulda SA-5 - SW of H Med GDR 14 - NB81 Rostock SA-5 - Fields SE of Rostock - UV29 Magdeburg Sa-5 - Field east of Magdeburg - TT98 Erfurt SA-5 - Field north of Erfurt - PB85 Berlin SA-5 - Field north of berlin, west of Templin - UU87 SA-2 (SA-3 site layout in sim) Quedlinburg SA-2 - south of Quedlinburg - PC43 Haina SA-2 - SE of Haina – PB14 SA-3 Leipzig SA-3 -Field east of Leipzig - US39 Allstedt SA-3 - Field north west of Allestedt - PB69 Merseburg SA-3 - Field West of Merseburg - PB99 Sparenberg SA-3 - Field north of Sparenberg - UT88 Wittstock SA-3 - Field northwest of Wittstock - UV20 Rostock SA3 - West of Rostock, coastline - PF90 - N 54 10.164 E 11 59.099 Stendal SA-3 – NW of Stendal – PD83 Templin SA-3 – between GDR14 and TemplinAB – UU97 Parchim SA3 - West of Parchim Airfield - PE72 - N 53 26.675 E 11 39.872 Wismar SA3 - North East of Wismar, coastline - PF70 - N 54 07.917 E 11 40.369 Rügen SA-3, Northern Rugen - UA85 - N 54 39.254 E 13 15.118 Mahlwinkel SA-3 - west of Mahlwinkel - PD80. Kothen SA-3 - West of Kothen - PC93 Fehrbellin SA-3 - SE corner UU45 Brandenburg SA-3 - NW corner UU51 Fulda SA-3, South of Fulda SA-5 site (NB81) - NB80 How do I tell what type of SAM sites they are? from these 2 resources which show the configuration matches the layout of the sites, however i gather that some of the sites that have SA-3 and Hawk layout were historically SA-2 or Patriot sites. I have corrected that * https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-S-75-Volkhov.html

the "ammo dump" at Finow airbase is not an ammo dump but a Collectivized farm, as indicated by the tractor parked in the middle.

205GB might be for the map once all 3 phases have been completed.

Great Writeup. you should bring this mission to life! Where can I find TRADOC Pamphlet 525-5 25 March 1981? I've tried searching for it but only find post cold war versions.

+1 to this. It will be easier to navigate and orient ourselves on the map if only actual urban areas are yellow.

Will also be useful area to put ships in edit: turns out you can't put ships in the dark blue area

+1 also SA-4 and Nike Herkules is missing for a proper cold war SAM lineup

With the Cold war Germany map coming out, and for cold war scenarios in general we are missing a handful of crucial Air defence systems to flesh out the air defence forces. Specifically SA-4, SA-7, 7B, SA-14 and the Nike Hercules systems. Also the british Bloodhound system could be good to have but not as critical.

This group is no longer active, however we in the 512th VFW are happy to consider any F-4 pilots and WSOs interested in cold war era flying. We already have some former members of In Country. Join our discord and feel free to ask any questions you may have. If you are interested in joining contact dotbmp or Essah https://discord.gg/a4gPfwTr

I found this on reddit edit the path key in the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World

How are you going to be able to tell the difference between an M1A1 and a M1IP or a T-80U vs a T-80BV from an aircraft in flight? if anything the more important assets would be a Nike Hercules and an SA-4

Yes its a technology called speed trees that generates trees within an area according to some fixed parameters, which is the only way to create such vast forrests with decent FPS

I find it a bit contradicting that people complain about textures not being high enough resolution while also complaining about file size... its hard to get both.

I've been struggling with this since I'm not in VR. for now I turn off the IHADS I want to use the TEDAC screen without the video overlay on the IHADS but still have IHADS on so I don't need to click "i" again after I'm done using TEDAC. Is it accurate that the Video overlay comes up on IHADS even if the NVS switch is set to off. Is it accurate that TADS is de-selected when you turn NVS switch to off?