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This is huge for ED. It must have been hard for ED to get out of UBI's deal.

It is bad if you want to overclock (it's fine if you don't), however I'm running i5 4670K 4.2 OC without any thermal issues ATM (waiting for the budget to recover from the shock :)). I'm able to do this only because of the above average CPU I've got - it requires only 1.1 V to run stable @4.2. Get an aftermarket cooler!

Check the whole thread - it goes way back to 2011 ;)

bump :D

we are getting there ... and those "QR codes" look cool :D

Fair enough ... but I don't see how much more damage could be done with civilized discussion about what could went wrong then what has already been done by original statement. If the heart broken community is an issue and shutting us up would solve the problem, I'm all for it ...

And your point is?

Haswell is different beast. It was designed with mobile computing from the start, and what that means is reduced power consumption while in idle (20% less) and increase while under load (10%). Haswell is designed to happily work 24/7 several degrees bellow TJ max (which is 100 degrees for this series of Intel CPUs) Another addition is Fully Integrated Voltage Regulator (FIVR) which means that CPU, not the MB, decide how much juice is going to different part of CPU (memory controller, PCIe controller, GPU). It's obvious that this design will be quite sensitive to overclocking settings, particularly if you push the cache and memory controller. It's difficult to have native cache ratio above 42x (although it depends on given CPU sample) and OC memory has much greater impact on CPU stability now. Although overclocking Haswell to certain degree is as easy as before, above certain point you have to understand how the internal things are supposed to work and adjust settings accordingly.

Ah ok! Thanks :)

Most likely scenario ... Someone within team wanted pay rise / was unsatisfied with status within project or something like that, the boss couldn't take the combined pressure and publicly threatened to sack the whole project which resulted in mixture of public disappointment, disbelief, outrage and depression, the greater powers intervened ... Dispute resolution with mediator started.

If this end ugly, the biggest consequence will be the lost confidence in 3rd party projects in general. MiG 21 project generated huge enthusiasm and support within community. If MiG 21 dies, it will be extremely difficult to convince people to trust in any new 3rd party project. For the sake of future 3rd party DCS modules, we should all cross our fingers and hope that this project goes through, regardless if you like the jet or not.

^^ You cannot buy faster processor for gaming than properly overclocked i5 or i7 (it doesn't matter which one - they're equal in vast majority of games). You don't need very expensive motherboard to overclock mildly. However, quality and over engineered MB is not a bad idea anyway - it's the foundation of the system and it should survive at least one CPU upgrade. On average you should get about 20% overclock on standard aftermarket coolers which majority of gamers specify with their new systems. Nothing fancy needed. I got 11% (4.2) on stock Intel cooler :). 20% faster CPU is noticeable in simulation games like DCS. Intel offers overclock warranty : http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/ Haswell is the most power efficient design yet. If we assume that CPU idles most of the time (and Haswell draws negligible amount of current when idling), CPU power consumption is not a factor - GPU(s) are the major power hogs ...

5 GHz from Haswell is fairly optimistic. It's doable, but that means top custom water or other exotic cooling solution (and great CPU). 4.6 is more realistic goal - you should get there with majority of Haswells and closed loop water cooling solutions. One quick test for Haswell on z87 motherboards: Try to boot at 4.6 at 1.200 Vcore. If you succeed and get to Windows, your CPU is above average, if it's stable and stays cool (BTW, Haswell is designed to run hot) under stress test at that voltage, it's excellent. However, there are lot of Haswells which need 1.300 Vcore, even more to get stable at 4.6 and that means high temperatures and expensive coolers.

Look at the Asus Maximus VI ROG series boards then ... I can't speak highly enough of them. Even the smallest, mini ITX one is capable of extreme overclocking (LN2 cooled, competitive OC) so 5 GHz would be easy IF the CPU is extraordinary and cooling is adequate. Equivalent motherboard offerings from Gigabyte and MSI should get you to 5 GHz without much fuss as well. But ... Good luck with CPU silicon lottery! You will definitely need it for achieving 5GHz from Haswell without investing in top of the line custom water loops and such.

Resolution is not a show stopper, but something to be aware off. Every new technology has it's shortcomings and technological hurdles in the beginning. Oculus is not an exception. We will probably not notice lack of resolution in most of the other games and pure flying in DCS, however for something like IFR flying or spotting targets and fighting in A-10C, it could and will be an issue. Simply, it's hard not to notice it because we are getting used to high resolution displays being everywhere. I mean, nowadays I get sharper text on my cell phone than what's standard on many printed documents ... :D It will get better with time. :thumbup:

Yep, Michael Abrash article is exactly what we are talking about here. ;) First Gen VR will have resolution issue. Hopefully, it will be sorted out in the near future ...

Well, 1080p 5-6" display @ 2 inches has way less pixels/degree than average desktop monitor (1080p 24" display @ 20" distance) . That's a mathematical fact. But hey, to each his own. :)

Haswell (4670K) if buying new. Get a Z87 based motherboard if you go for K (unlocked) processor, they're meant to be overclocked. H87 is for office/internet application and non-K/overclocked system. P.S. I'm running stable i5 4670K @ 4.2/1.1Vcore/DDR2133 CL9/native cache on system in my signature with Intel stock cooler :) @ max 75 degrees. That's quite rare for Haswell, though. Usually voltage has to be higher and you would need at least Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or similar for basic overclocking and decent temperatures. It's great and fast CPU, but it gets hot fast. More so than Ivy. Cooling solution is critical for anything more than couple of hundreds MHz overclock.

Full HD resolution from 5-7" display is way too low for device held at couple of inches or so from the eyes. Even the newest mobile devices, with similarly sized display, have much larger resolution than Full HD. And they're handheld - viewing distance is much larger than Oculus. We need 4K+ display to have ideal resolution (pixels/degree) in VR glasses / helmets. And yes, it will happen sometime in, probably not too distant future. Oculus (and mass market VR) is in it's infancy. It will mature, for sure. Early adopters will have their exclusivity (as always), but for the rest of us it makes much more sense to wait for the technology to mature. And, don't forget, competition will be stiff, very soon. Oculus (VR in general) is the future. It will become necessity for gaming and flight simulation software like head tracking is now. It will just not happen overnight. Looking forward to it.

This I'm not very optimistic about Oculus integration in DCS until interaction with VR environment is sorted out. And display resolution is another thing which will probably influence my decision to wait for a second or third generation of forthcoming VR products.

SST has always worked great for me. I almost always do all of my X65 programming in SST.

I'm getting H100i as well, sometime next month. It should fit Prodigy case nicely and my CPU cries for water cooling - it's stable as a rock @4.2 and needs only 1.1 Vcore on, don't laugh, Intel stock cooler! I guess I got a good silicon. Temps are around 75 on hottest core in Aida64 stress test which is nothing for Haswell. So I'll try 4.6 and up (hopefully) with H100i ...

I think all of us would like to see perfect graphics, integrated battlefield, everything ... However, reality is that ED is very small company, market for their products is small (really low to average return of investment) and coding to standard required by community takes extraordinary amount of man-hours. On top of that, they're the only one left in game, so we don't have much choice - best we can do is to give them support and have patience. Although whining on these forums helps to relieve personal frustration with state of flight sim market (been there, done that :D), we should be really grateful to have any kind of hard core combat flight simulator in this market and economy.

Manpads are cheap - Russian igla on black market goes from $3-5,000 for an old 9K38 and up to $25,000 for the newest variant. http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/asmp/issueareas/manpads/black_market_prices.pdf The brand new iglas on regular market are $60.000-80.000. Very cheap considering what kind of damage it can do. And training and maintenance required is minimal and can be done in field conditions. It's ideal infantry AA weapon against dominant airforce which has total air control. The reason why you haven't seen manpads in US Army is doctrine, not the price. There is a low expected threat to US forces from the air, especially in recent conflicts.