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Interesting, thanks for taking the time to provide a detailed response Yo-Yo always good to peak behind the curtains to see how you make decisions. Fascinating to see that the static testing is still done in a similar manner today, I was expecting the test to have been a bit more archaic. I suppose if we are honest we are still essentially using the engineering principles developed by these chaps in the 40's, 50's & 60's... I would expect to see and feel a bit more from the pilot and aircraft before I got to 10G, are the effects still being worked on & are the stick force's fully implemented yet? You could be right about the elevator input, my stick is currently not screwed down.

I brought the spade grip some time ago but was just using it as a normal grip on top of my Warthog along with my tarmac aces KG13 grip, however given the difference in the forces and the unique design of the British control columns I decided to make a 1:1 replica. I am hoping I can get it all plugged in for a quick test by the end of the month, however it will only be using testing dampers I will have to wait a few weeks for the proper dampers to be delivered. Nice find can't say I have heard of that book! Might be worth a purchase. Regarding the 13g testing l would like to see some more details on how they tested it.

Interesting information in this book... https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b1g7AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT345&lpg=PT345&dq=spitfire+structural+failure&source=bl&ots=DeWbyANCw6&sig=h-wTRuzMYZfg9_wx6ZDqzwfoofk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSweSY3cjRAhXE6CwKHScaCKIQ6AEIJjAC#v=onepage&q=spitfire%20structural%20failure&f=false

Awesome Hiromachi, thanks for taking the time to share your videos. I agree I have never read anything on structural failure as it is modelled in DCS, I have read about the low elevator forces and how this led to overstressing of the aircraft and damage to the skin I have never read anything on the wings falling off bar one well known incident that was found to be fatigue damage presumably because the aircraft had been overstressed. There were some issues with MkV that turned out to be systems being installed incorrectly and drastically shifting the COG leading to catastrophic failure however this was addressed. Perhaps stick forces are not fully modelled or the blackouts not working correctly, whatever the reason something feels very off. I have an extended stick, nothing like the length of the actual one however I am very interested to see what this will perform like once it is finished :D

HI Yo-Yo, I forgot to respond to your post, apologies. I completely agree that any pilots account is up for debates given the potential difference in TAS and IAS, this document shows that the spitfire was supposedly able to go to ~600mph in a dive. http://www.spitfireperformance.com/sd2011.jpg Yet in DCS if we get anywhere above 350-400 and try to use the ailerons, even slightly, our wings rip off! No one has yet confirmed if this is how it should act or not? Truncated yes, but that means they were still attached to the aircraft. ;)

Don't forgot the EISTC rule Everything Is Subject To Change :music_whistling: :D

Perhaps your post is the invalid one :music_whistling: Rate of climb was never one of the P-51's strengths P-51 Spitfire

Lol well then you clearly haven't flown the Spitfire enough, if I take off with a P-51 wingman I will have to wait a long time for them to reach the same altitude.. obviously once they are up there the dive advantage comes into play. ;)

Well you clearly haven't flown the P-51 :lol: it is painful after seeing what the other aircraft can achieve! Also I am fairly sure it is a better climber than the 190, however unless the pilot has just taken off they normally have a huge energy advantage. Agreed, it is frustrating to watch the 190 climbing away no hope in catching them unless they make a mistake. Out of interest Yo-Yo do you have a particularly favourite aircraft after studying these four in detail?

I think you are referring to the 15lbs used on the early Merlin 61 powered IX.

Yes, agreed no need to go over old ground I am sure before full release we will have a perfectly historical model :thumbup: and she is already a beauty :pilotfly:

What features would those be?

Really? The spitfire is a great climber it is not in the same league as the 109 but considering the difference in speed it is fantastic

I would like to hear confirmation on any truth to this. We know that the stick forces on the spitfire were very light, at least on the elevator, so perhaps it is already modelled.

Well said Zilch. I am certain that the IX did come up against K4 however only over Germany. The XIV was not produced in sufficient numbers to replace all IX squads so a mixture of IX and XIV would be realistic. I am sure we will get a Bf109 Gustav at some point however even then an argument will rage on which one to get certainly not a G1/2 more likely a late G6, G10 or G14...

Wow impressive, thanks for sharing

I had no idea that the Brazilians had a P-47 squadron in Italy!

Just stumbled on this... I cannot wait! :D

The thing that really makes me think this is a bug or incorrect is Aileron reversal, we know this was an issue on the spitfire and we know that it was only truly solved with later mark 21 spitfires. If the wings were breaking at 350-400mph then that would have been a much bigger issue than aileron reversal which was experienced at 580mph... It just doesn't make sense

For starters..

Good video, similar to what I am seeing. You definitely weren't pulling particularly severe manoeuvres either.

I just did this and it really made landings a lot easier and it forces you to land with the right speed... :thumbup:

I was going to mention the 110 however it doesn't really fit Normandy does it? I thought it was replaced by Fw190G or was that more east front?

You are right in that perhaps it is a case of a sudden jerky input however I was reading about a spit xi pilot diving to evade me163 and doing a (in his own words) violent 90 degree turn at 500mph, if you tried that in our spit you would turn into a manned propeller powered javelin Here is the article

Because it is not realistic obviously