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Team speak server IP is on first page, the practice game server hasn't been arranged yet but I am working on it! :) The MiG vs F-5 game server I referred to is game server currently open to the public hosted by another party

TS3 server is up! I am working on a practice time, but all pilots are welcome to use this server for comms in practice as much as needed! I'd recommend the MiG 21 Vs F-5 server currently up while waiting for an official practice

Respectfully you aren't really contributing to the event here, Hummingbird, as I have stated multiple times I am aware of the bugs and the match will continue, barring any earth shattering revelation. You are welcome to fly with us, and I have no issue with constructive discussion but honestly at this point interjecting things we are all aware of isn't helping anything, and all participants are aware this is for the enjoyment of the new modules and to have a good time. I've even stated further rounds will be held and that this is to garner interest in the aircraft and idea behind this- you may be taking the "crowning" of the best aircraft a bit too seriously. Even if BST fixed every single issue tomorrow, the argument would then just swing over to the issues with the MiG 21. No module will be perfect, ever. We will work with what we have and have a good time in the process.

I think if the title of this thread has been "I would love to see additional F-5 Variants!" Then the 12 page debate could have been avoided. The point is BST shouldn't change the module in an unrealistic way and I love the challenge of the E-3 version we have. That said, I'd love to see expansion to other variants down the road. I'd even be open to a 3rd just focusing on new variants for a popular aircraft for awhile rather than full steam ahead on a new one. Just my 2 cents Mavericks would be a beautiful thing is proper documentation to help BST ever surfaced!

I'm really looking forward to this as well! Hopefully we hear about it soon

Let me know, I'll hold off on changes until you say for sure I know the F-5s seeker FOV is too small and it's an issue, and a few have mentioned putting off the event, but ultimately this is about having a good time and gathering interest in the aircraft, so as it stands now Round 1 will continue with current build. There will be additional rounds and chances to settle the score if it is felt this impacted the F-5s too heavily.

If Open Bets and Stable Branch both have the F-5 then we can conduct it on stable branch to ensure we are on the same version. I'll do some testing and come out with an update on that later today. Originally I stated Open Beta because I wasn't sure how quickly the main version would get the F-5 Many things around here get delayed, post poned or canceled for various and sometimes unavoidable reasons, but This event will not be one of them. Both aircraft are in a playable state and more than able to engage eachother in a fair fight, so the event will continue. As it stands now, The only reason this will be pushed to the back up date is because of turnout. Endless debate will continue about performance of the F-5, and if not the F-5 the MiG 21 and/or both, because that's the nature of a sim community who pours themselves into an aviation fascination and that is just fine, but in any case- the show must go on! :) The wrong aircraft won't be crowned, the team that flies best will be crowned, and their airframe along with them

Thank you for putting this out there, I will get a practice server up and post times here ASAP

This is ultimately up to the team captains. For fairness reasons I'll withhold the mission for the battle until the day of, but if practice is desired before hand I can certainly put up a practice mission and server- just let me know what time is good if You guys want to get together

Totally agree, it needs to be added ASAP. The final decision on this is that Labels will be OFF, map view will be ALLIES ONLY, but externals will be ON. The live streaming and recording of this event is a big part of the goal to help spread interest in these two great modules and add to the fun, additionally since scoring and some game mechanics will require Game Master Monitoring, external views will be needed, so while I know it is a concern for the participants, we will be requesting on the honor system that pilots refrain from abusing external views. The good news is with the map set to allies only it appears you cannot view external on enemy aircraft. Flankerator has been extremely helpful in advising me on preparing this little match, and has kindly offered partnership in future events to follow this one. If this match is successful and we continue with additional rounds, we will proceed with full hardcore settings to include removing externals Thanks for the input and understanding

I agree totally, the only reason externals are being considered was to permit live stream/recording of the event to add a interesting aspect, which per my testing may be very hard to do without external view. Labels will certainly be off. We could ask pilots to refrain from external view in the honor system, but I know some participants may still have concerns

List updated! Please feel free to continue to sign up for reserve and show up the night of to see if you can be slotted in. Teamspeak Details coming soon!

I want to be open to pilots of all nationalities, but I do kindly ask that you be able to read and communicate verbally well in English so the other pilots can speak with you on TeamSpeak. Do you think this will be an issue? External Views are being decided now. We want to stream and record the event, but it's proving quite hard without external view. Do you want me to hold off putting you on the roster until we have an official decision?

Bunyap, you are the man Can I ask how you capture your Rift footage? My Shadowplay capture also gets my desktop in the background

Hopefully the community will realize this is incredible. The fact that LNS has simply ventured out on their own and created implementation of a long awaited feature not originally in DCS (and a challenge for ED even) is extremely impressive. Also, in my opinion, this will likely be the most realistic Ground Radar in any sim to date. Thanks for the update, outstanding news!

Where are the F-5 pilots at? We need some Tiger flyers! :)

I'll remove you from the list. Hopefully we can get some more F-5 pilots because that roster is kind of light! I know the Sidewinder isn't up to snuf along with a few other bugs, but at this time we are planning on going ahead with the match based on the current builds of both aircraft. There will be other matches down the road once those items are fixed, but round 1 will proceed in the current state as this round is about having a good time and testing out the concept. added!

Although I want to give all weapon options to both airframes, for the sake of gameplay and fairness I'll probably have to exclude the RN series for the MiG 21s :)

Added! Put you in 1-5 for now to make things easier to read but if You want 1-6 the night of the action we can bump you to that aircraft

Understood, sorry to loose you. Do you want to be on the reserve in case something changes?

Perhaps I forgot to put it on this forum! I'll get it posted later today

Chinese and Iranian (IIRC) F-5s were equipped with soviet missiles, which is why I was considering R-60 and R-73 series. That would be more for user enjoyment that accuracy of course

Hey guys, Like similar mods I've released for the L-39ZA and M2000C, I'll be releasing a weapons upgrade mod for the F-5E within the next day or so, but this time I want your input! My goal is to expand the aircrafts capabilities in a somewhat realistic manner, so if you are familiar with weapon systems that have been used by export nations that are available in DCS but not a default F-5 weapon, post them here and I will try to include them. Note I cannot enable complex weapons like the Maverick such, so keep it to bombs, rockets, etc. My mod will include at a minimum: MER 5 & 6 MK. 82/MK. 82SE racks enabled for all pylons Twin and triple bomb ejectors enabled for all pylons Expanded Rocket pod options, and triple racks for FFAR pods AIM-9M (Testing outboard and wingtip pylons) R-60 series R-73 Let me know what you guys want to see!

I find the F-5s combat options to be far from limited! Despite the 2 missile limit she is very capable in the merge, and there is good variety to ground attack ordinance and she is a very stable ground attack platform!

MATCH DATE HAS BEEN SET- SEE FIRST POST FOR MORE INFO I'm currently evaluating the F-5s readiness and if need be the match will be pushed to its backup date, but as it stands now I am pushing forward with holding the match on the 31st. Ultimately we will need to accept that the MiG has been out years, and the F-5 is in early access, so there will be complicating factors in any case. Just remember this is about having a good time and a little bragging rights!