BitMaster

Back in the days when we thought nothin' would ever stop us, bones are unbreakable and everything is for free, foremost Free Living & Free Love LoL Yeah Viper, where are those damn good days, teeth are falling out, hair long gone, back hurts every damn day....WAAHAAAAA Here we come:

16GB is a no-go

The more I read about it the more I like Nvidia again. Maybe when they've sorted out the chiplet latency, as they did from Zen2 to Zen3&4, and have parity in fps/watt. I am glad my 1080ti still runs, none of the new cards excites me, none. Too expensive, too much power draw.

BuzzU, I always check I buy from amazon directly and usually do not buy from 3rd party vendors, unless they are reputable. But hey, it sucks if it goes south, no matter why, it's a PITA to hunt down shipments.

This is modern life shopping ! That's what we asked for and now that we have it, cuz we always bought the cheapest ( the market will correct it ) we don't like it anymore. Gone are the days of solid shop owners, knowing their stuff, advice you, show you, unpack & present on the counter, etc.. small talk. No, ALL GONE It doesn't matter if amaz.. or newe.. or xyz...they all ship with numerous parcel services who are alwaysof questionable reliability, if not today then maybe tomorrow. Modern shopping, welcome to the world of unboxing a suprise you didnt order or waiting forever for a box that will never come.

Quite a few meanwhile that I only barely flew but want to have them "just in case" and who knows what the future brings. With the complexity of new modules one is easily over saturated with new stuff that at some point and age you got to shift back and slow consumption rate a bit, not saying you shouldn't purchase them, just in case. I find it hard, too hard for myself, to keep up the pace, module after module..LoL.

Acronis CDP...

Thanks, have seen this last night already and it really doesn't look too well.

Ain't upgrading yet since I do run this 5900X 12-core system and fewer cores will be no good for VMware. I definitely wait till decent 128GB DDR5 kits are on shelf for fair money before I upgrade unless I need to. Afaik there should also be the option to mix modules wo penalty, like 2x32GB + 2x16GB for a total of 96GB without braking things, thats what the DDR5 specs say iirc. but who knows what your IMC thinks of such an idea. Sure, my ratio is 1:1 on the infinity fabric. It is also stable, hasn't yet crashed in a year and I often saturate my RAM full tilt for hours and nothing bad happens, stable and quiet. I think if I had 128GB I would just scale my VMware tests bigger and run against the same RAM wall, LoL.

I used RAID-0 to combine a bunch of 256GB Samsung Pro's to a useful size for games only. If it crashed I wouldn't care with 1Gb/sec DL tbh. For enterprise use, NO, you just DON'T do that ! My backup is a manifold of tiers, several external drives ( detached when not in use ) and 1 daily backup of my OS drive to Acronis Cloud. Better safe than sorry.

Very nice, excellent for us petrol & prop heads

OK, I then misread some of it. My fault. I thought you "tuned" your B-Die from 3200-14 to 3600-14, but you did the safer bet and bought them that way. I said to myself if they are advertised at 1.45v I may try on my own...and got lucky this time, which is often not the case when you run into HW limits of what can be done and what is BSOD LoL. Anyway, I can follow your idea and it makes sense in general. B-Die !

Thinder, didn't you previously "ONLY" suggest 3200MHz as the top speed for Ryzen 5000 and categorically excluded 3600 from a valid setting ? I recall a few threads in my head where you were pointed to various AMD statements, incl. Lisa's own show presenting the CPU's , stating that 3600 is the actual sweet spot and you were not too fond of that 3600 setting at all, iirc. Now you run 3600 yourself, overclocked and overvolted ( like I do ). Am I wrong or what change of mind have I missed ? I assume, due to yourself running them at 3600 CL14 @ 1.45v, 3600 is the actual faster setting vs. 3200 even under heavy load on the CPU and IMC.

There is no easy answer to this because there are way too many things to consider and right now, many stars do not align the way they should, in many aspects. Just two things up front. From what I read few days ago Asus newest Bios does allow PBO2 for the 5800X3D, so it can be tuned and thus better cooling does fully make sense. A DIY-Loop defines itself with adaptability, and changing a CPU water block is one of them. If that is the only thing you have to change in 3-5 years when you move to Socket XYZ is still a good deal. The rest of the loop runs for many more years in general, my last pump worked 6 years and I just changed it cuz the new one looks so much better with the nice res I got myself last Xmas for myself. They tend to be cheap top maintain. OK, enough water talks. Does it make sense to still buy a AM4 socket chip, a 5800X3D.....well, yes and no. Yes because it still fights with the top dog CPU's for the first few places in many games, does pretty good in MS Flight Sim and many in here say the same about DCS and 5800X3D. Now, coupled with a 1080ti ( I have the same, still ) your differences either way will mostly be Null because any half modern CPU will bring the GPU to 99% load. So from that regard, it won't harm but you also won't benefit much apart from smoother gameplay ( more consistent fps ). Do not expect higher general fps if your GPU is already fully stressed. If you plan to buy into the 4080 or higher arena and also think 4k it might be that the 5800X3D will fall behind. The RAM way cheaper and you could get 64GB DDR4 for the price of 32GB DDR5, keep that in mind. The board is also pretty easy, you don't need 99Phases+12+6 to fire a 65w CPU. Any midrange B450 or B550 can do that. If money is a concern or a point of where you say "5800X3D yes, if it stays below 750€" or similar. You can get away with a board for 100-150€, get 64GB RAM 3200-3600 DDR4 and a 5800X3D and still not break the bank. If you go 7600X, 64GB DDR5 and a "modest" Ryzen 7000 board you spend like almost twice the money but dont get speed you think you paid for. Then, I think 2023 will be the time when multi-core will arrive in Open-Beta ( my personal assumption ! ) and CPU single core speed will still be relevant but not as crucial as before. I will keep my 5900X for a few years to come and I won't upgrade my CPU just for DCS unless I need more than 12 cores for DCS, I doubt that will be the case before my system is obsolete. My hope is MC support will free up enough resources on the CPU that my then "old" 5900X will still have enough power to deliver the FPS I need, 60 at 1440p. When I get another GPU, likely not a 1500€ model, I will still stay reasonable and might not even go for 4k or VR again, just maybe 120fps at 1440p at higher LOD....if the CPU can deliver that. My old 8700k, now serving as a Linux TV machine in my living room, saturated my 1080ti the same way as my 5900X did. My GPU is too small to see a benefit in fps. What got better was lowest fps and scenes where the AMD did not struggle as much as the 800k did, but ALL CPU's struggle there and none cures the symptom 100%. Many things come into play, decide wisely. * the missing characters are due to my shtty Logitech LED BLING BLING keyboard that hates "5" and some characters... SANTA...can I have a keyb..... I like the LEDs at night but it seems it needs a 100€+ keyboard to get proper mechanics. During my first 15 years I soild all my PC's in less than 1-1.5 years to my friends and family, "as they were, with ALL installed and attached" BUT NOT MY OLD IBM/Lexmark KEYBOARD, god, how I miss that quality of keyboard mechanics. Now I change keyboards like I change my shoes, like that. No more keyboard that lasts 1+ decade, takes a ton of cigarette ash and still works, just bullet proof robust and a KLICK.

Google... ! Glad you fixed it. One issue I had last nite at 1am... : Virtual CPU0 crashed, taking a VM machine down...hmmmm...somehow I saw that before...and fixed it before...it's a VMware thing mixed with some other strange crap, that I remembered. So I copied the nice VMware error log in chunks into Google but after 15min I still hadn't had that "This was it !, GOT it" no...took longer. So I rephrased my issue ( the number 1 skill you need is phrase your error correctly to get the good results !!!! ) and here it came, hidden half the page down. You will crash as soon as you start any 2nd VM if you have capped FPS in NV Cpanel ( only there ! ) Who would think a Virtual CPU error on a headless Linux Server is caused by your NV Cpanel capping fps !?!? Nuts but true.

...don't I have this 256-core CPU somewhere in a box, next to the 12TB/2PB RAM-Disk combo thing Steve gave me, maybe just good enough for weather in a 30km circle and 10km high. naahh..not there, it's got to be in that box with the JFK evidence stuff...I will try it out after feeding the unicorns stay tuned. Not saying it wasn't nice to have it ALL, who wouldn't, but you have to measure your wishes and expectations against real hard core numbers or end up feeding unicorns. Once DCS has really become multi-core competent and general CPU's have dozens of cores and even more RAM there "might" be enough juice left to think about "weather". Look at a tree with all his leaves in the wind, stop the frame !, manipulate ONE leave...and calculate the change 12h later..... forget it ! It's an extreme example but still, one tree, one leave, half a day later. *From my Physics teacher in the 80's, just to show how complex thermodynamics are.

Very tricky and a quick Google search says you are not alone with this symptom. In addition to all the above, I would also use one of the known good registry cleaners and sweep Windows with it. I use macecraft.com but you may pick one that you trust. Also, create a NEW user with admin rights and see if that account is also affected. As a bigger measure to test and if you can, install Ubuntu ( or any one you like ), install the NV drivers, Steam and some Linux compatible games ( I advice not to use DCS in this test ) and see if the card runs normally in Linux. Mine does is both OS's. If all goes south, reinstall Windows.

search this section of the forum, plenty answers to your question.

and ONLY AMD seems to see this bottleneck and gave us TWENTYEIGHT PCI lanes on the 7000 series. 16x(GPU), 2x 4x(NVME 5.0 ) and 4x to the SB ( 5.0 ) That "should" by all math be enough for some time now. Intel nneds to throw in some more lanes too, this was my #1 reason why I used to built HEDT for myself when they offered more lanes but those days are gone ( Xeon and Threadripper are too expensive for my work scenario ). It's like running in circles sometime, LoL

Wouldn't RL 29's retract the brake before actual touch down to prevent damaging the panel and other parts involved ? I would imagine so. Maybe I find a YT vid of 29's touching down...

DDR5 steht noch genau da wo es vor 1 Jahr war, in den Startlöchern mit allen Kinderkrankheiten im Rucksack. Ich würde nicht darauf wetten dass ein AM5/12.gen/13.gen-System zukünftig mit DDR5 laufen wird der noch nicht zur Markktreife gebracht wurde. D.h., wer hofft in 1 Jahr vielleicht auf DDR5-8400 oder höher, vielleicht auch 4 Module anstatt nur 2, zu wechseln könnte böse enttäuscht werden. So ging es jedenfalls in der Vergangenheit mit den Vorgängern von DDR5, denn Prozessor-IMC, Mainboard-Bios-RAM_Anbindung ( Leiterbahnen ) müssen für diese Geschwindigkeiten taugen und ich bezweifele dass das so ist. Entweder bootet das Board erst gar nicht oder das System steigt aus bevor der XMP Wert erreicht wird da es diese engen Toleranzen und Timings schlicht nicht beherrscht. Siehe DDR3 und DDR4 Launch und wie lange es dauerte bis das richtig Sinn machte ein Upgrade zu machen. Es wurde viel versprochen aber bis jetzt erstaunlich wenig geliefert: 2 Module oder das Eis wird sehr dünn ( keine 128GB vorerst, von den versprochenen 256GB ganz zu schweigen ) Geringere Spannung wohl auch nicht was man so liest. DDR5 tummelt sich real im Spannungsbereich von DDR4, Hallo ?? Schade, denn es hat viel Potential. Deswegen ist der 5800X3D immer noch eine Top CPU für unsere Zwecke.

As a site note, I shared this USB errors with my retired 8700k/Z370 combo with VR gear but never had any other USB dropouts that I could recall. With the AM4/5900X/X570S I am running now I never had any USB issues..OTHER than the ages old Nvidia-MS bug that kept my old rig AND this one from going to sleep if either my TM gear or any of the wheels is connected. That is annoying enough. In 10 years by now with DCS I had never lost the Hotas' USB and in VR it either connected or not but never dropped it if it actually connected before. Still, USB is a mad soup of variables.

So the French Pilots have the strongest arms ? That's a very strong pull from 80-100% , wow ! For a training, take my 1-year old Rottweiler-Ridgeback ( some Husky and Dobermann in the mix as well ) for a walk...after a month you will pull 65kg like nothing, over and over again for 90min. Dog vs. Stick

It's what they say it will be able to do, once finished...and likely dozens and dozens of patches later. Advertising videos are worth NULL. I grew up with TV-Ads of the `70s...cmon...at the age of 6 you realize there can't be a more white washing detergent every week and nothing is as advertised, likely the other way around tbh. Second, I don't think you can launch such a simulation from zero-to-full_fidelity on Day-1. Proof me wrong and we are all happy, maybe not all but you get my point.

Somehow, they all miss an important feedback function