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I agree with all that's being said, I just still like the servers that try to simulate semi-realistic scenarios more. :D DavidRed, that's a good point in your last post. I'm worried about that too.

It's an unfortunate fact, but the instant action servers do get a lot more attention than the hardcore servers. I just don't get it, why do people like such properly simulated plane, but don't want to fly them in proper scenarios. It boggles the mind. :( It's like saying I want to play ARMA, but only in 50m by 50m map and no vehicles ever. :doh: I hope things change when the WWII map comes out, but of course it's a long ways away....

Yes, I have faith now after seeing the work and comments.

Oh lol

That's my point, I think it's a legitimate strategy. When you're at a disadvantage you are suppose to run. I think we just disagree ;)

Nice kill! I actually had a similarly intense kill about 2 weeks ago where I hit my attacker with a Aim-9 while I had no HUD. I'm really glad there are lock tones lol. I should post the replay.

I've haven't been on the ACG in awhile but if it's anything like what JG27 has on their server it's very inconsistent. It's just annoys me when an enemy plane flies over the base at 70m and 3 AAA guns are all missing the whole time (and all missing in the same spot no less). It happens fairly often. People wouldn't just stay in the safe zone. You run a dogfight server. The point is to go out and kill other players. Your not going to kill anything flying circles around your own airfield. I think allowing CA is a very good idea. I'm just saying, try putting one Gepard in there and see what happens. :D

I think the biggest problem with the Euro servers is the lack of airfield defenses. If you think you can run back to base and get help from the AAA, good luck. Sometimes they won't even kill your tail if you drag him along your airfield at 10 meters. They are terrible shots. It's an easy fix, just put some Gepards down there with at least some skill level and people will stop vulching and such. (because they'll get torn apart)

Thanks you for the link, I would have never found it through all the Russian! This gives us a lot of hope for the DCS F-16. :)

You speak too soon, the update is already here. :D

If you have any hardware questions in the future, there are sections on this forum for asking and the guys that help out on here are rediculously knowledgeable. Also, if you think the graphics are good now, just wait until DCS 2.0 comes out (hopefully in the next few months, it keeps getting delayed) the graphics are going to get a lot better. If you want to take a look there are plenty of videos and screenshots around the forum showcasing it. It's really quite incredible!

Pure Awesome! :thumbup:

Where does the Mirage 2000 rank in "turn n burn" ability against the other 4th gens?

I see. That's what I wanted to know, thanks.

I know the main version was primarily A-G, but wasn't the ADV the dedicated interceptor variant?

How does the Tornado ADV compare to other 4th gen fighters? I don't know much about that plane.

Are these the renders your talking about? Or different ones? http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1781050&postcount=5991 I didn't see that. Can you link?

That's half the fun :P

Where should our cutoff be then? Early 90's?

Right, I just try to keep myself from ever having to merge with a Flanker. :D BVR FTW lol.

I liked your first response better: "run" :lol: So pretty much pray he messes up or you get lucky. At what altitude would you start to win a turn fight?

How about this situation: merge, 1v1, no other battlefield constraints, no altitude advantage, both at 12k feet, your speed: M=1, SU's speed:M=.85, two-circle fight. Loadouts: You - no tanks, 2 aim-9's, 2 aim-120c's ..............Him - no tanks, 2 r-73's, 1 r27et, 1 r27er Similar fuel levels Not to put you on the spot :D, but what would you do in this situation?

You should compile a list of all the ones considered 4th gen in your first post. Everyone knows the big US ones, but some (like me ;)) may not know what international planes are considered 4th gen.

So would it just be better to try to duke it out?

Yes, escape out of certain death missile range so you have a chance to keep running. A turn with 'W' would bleed a lot of speed though, would the missile be able to do all the work on its own without airspeed help?