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True for plane and map. You can fly on Normandy but with no asset from wwii. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

I didn't call anyone a whiner, it's the other way around. This is a forum where people can express their ideas freely. As for our discussion, who was faster in reality, the P51D or the Dora 9, the real data show that the latter. 590km/h for P51D and 612km/h for Dora 9. I repeat.. real life data. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

Nope, not from your message. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

Exactly. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

First of all, respect is something that must be earned. Secondly, whenever someone presents an idea or an opinion that disagrees with his own he immediately attacks that person with pueril epitets like 'whinners' or other of this kind. Nothing of value came from this guy besides these. So, the best thing somebody can do with this type of people is just to ignore them. I hope you understand me. Thanks. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

So that necessarily means it's in the Open Beta.. Assumption is the mother of all failures. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

Stop spreading lies, please. Per Kate: Dear Community, dear Friends, We hope you are well and that you and your families are safe and not too distressed in these tough times. We also hope you enjoyed last month’s “Stay at Home” event. It was a new and refreshing adventure we trust was well received by the community as we registered a very large number of users who took advantage of the free to fly opportunities, despite the rather short 2-day time limits for each module. In the light of the ongoing difficulties we are all facing, we have decided to go the extra mile and will be announcing a similar but enhanced event in the very near future. We really hope it will meet with your approval and enthusiasm. Thank you again for all your comments I received following my previous post on Reddit/Hoggit. Your remarks were extremely helpful, insightful and encouraging too. 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Bear in mind that those values are TAS. IAS is lower and depends on the atmospheric conditions. In my video I was doing 620 to 630 km/h IAS and could not get close to the P51 who was putting 71inHg???? and over 400 TAS. Dora could easily catch the P51 on level flight @ SL with MW50, easily.. What we see now it's definitely a bug that is shamely exploited. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/p-51d-na-46-130.html These calculations were prepared in connection with a comparison of the P-51D and P-51H airplane. Considerable effort was expended to achieve agreement between flight test and calculated results, and the data presented represent good agreement with most of the flight test results. SUMMARY OF CALCULATED PERFORMANCE Note: Performance figures are based on N.A.C.A. standard atmospheric conditions and gross weight as given in item (2) except as noted. (1) Loading Condition Fighter (2) Gross Weight - Take-Off 9611 lb. (3) Fuel Load 180 gal. (4) Wing Loading 41.2 lb./ft.2 (5) Maximum Speed – War Emergency Power (3000 RPM. – 67" Hg. M.P.) At Sea Level 368 MPH At Low Blower A.C.A.* 414 MPH/11,300 ft. At High Blower A.C.A.* 440 MPH/24,500 ft. (6) Maximum Speed – Military Rating (3000 RPM – 61" Hg. M.P.) At Sea Level 355 MPH At Low Blower A.C.A.* 412 MPH/13,300 ft. At High Blower A.C.A.* 435 MPH/26,200 ft. (7) Maximum Speed – Normal Power (3000 RPM – 46" Hg. M.P.) At Sea Level 312 MPH At Low Blower A.C.A.* 380 MPH/15,200 ft. At High Blower A.C.A.* 409 MPH/28,500 ft. From P51D manual: "The Type D-10 Manifold Pressure Indicator is a vaporproof, absolute-pressure instrument. The gauge measures pressure in inches of mercury (inHg) and is graduated from 10 to 75 inHg. The face is scaled to 1 inHg. The green range indicates the normal operating range of 26-36 inHg. The red line indicates full military power of 61 inHg. When running in War Emergency Power, the manifold pressure can be increased to a maximum of 67 inHg." The video is showing 71 inHg and ~400mph! Other data comparison ===================================================================================== Fw-190 D-9 Statistics: Engine: Junkers Jumo 213A1 with MW-50 boost. Power: 2,240 HP. Max. Speed: 704 km/h. (438 mph.) Max. Climb: 1110 m/min (3,642 ft/min.) Empty Weight: 3,490 kg. (7,694 lbs.) Loaded Weight *Clean*: 4,293 kg. (9,464 lbs.) Max. Weight: 4,839 kg. (10,670 lbs.) Wing-Span: 10.50 m. (34.4 ft.) Wing-Area: 18.3 sq.m. (197 sq.ft.) Armament: 2x 13mm HMG's (MG 131) 2x 20mm cannons (MG 151/20). Fw-190 D-9 Aerodynamic statistics: Wing-loading *Loaded*: 234.59 kg/sq.m. (48 lbs/sq.ft.) Wing Aspect-Ratio: 6.02. Airfoil: NACA 23015.3 - NACA 23009. Airfoil Thickness Ratio: Root= 15.3% Tip= 9% . Wing CL-max *Freeflow*: 1.52 . Lift-loading *Loaded*: 154.33 kg/sq.m. (31.5 lbs/sq.ft.) Power-loading *Loaded*: 1.91 kg/hp. (4.22 lbs/hp.) Fw-190 D-9 Additional features: -Bubble-canopy Flettner Tabs. -Inclined seat position for better G-load resistance "Kommandogerat". ==================================================================================== P-51D Mustang Statistics: Engine: Packard Merlin V-1650-7. Power: 1,790 HP. Max.Speed: 703 km/h (437mph). Max. Climb: 1011 m/min. (3,320 ft/min) Empty Weight: 3,466 kg. (7,641 lbs.) Loaded Weight *Clean*: 5,034 kg. (11,100 lbs.) Max. Weight: 5,489 kg. (12,100 lbs.) Wing-Span: 11.3 m. (37.07 ft.) Wing-Area: 21.64 sq.m. (233 sq.ft.) Armament: 6x .50 cal HMG's (M2). P-51D Mustang Aerodynamic statistics: Wing-Loading *Loaded*: 232.62 kg/sq.m. (47.6 lbs/sq.ft.) Wing Aspect-Ratio: 5.81 . Airfoil: "Laminar" NAA/NACA 45-100 - NAA/NACA 45-100. Airfoil Thickness Ratio: Root= 14.8 or 15% Tip= 12%. Wing CL-max: 1.28 . Lift-loading *Loaded*: 181.73 kg/sq.m. (37.18 lbs/sq.ft.) Power-loading *Loaded*: 2.81 kg/hp. (6.2 lbs/hp.) ======================================================================================

Stop with this nonsense, please. If you have something objective to say, say it. Otherwise refrain from further comments. Thank you.

The graphs are obviously different. Dora in 2.5.6 is loosing speed much faster. Which agrees with what everybody said.

Dude.. did you notice the boost?

The problem is that the bug appears recently not only on the damaged P51 but also when you push the engine to the max, hence the exploit. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

It clearly changed. And it's clearly a bug that is exploited. It usually occurs when the P51D suffers damage. This discussion is already old, as the bug appeared in P51D infancy then it reappeared a couple of years ago. Since then, no word from ED. But this topic is about the Dora and it kind of drifted away. Back on topic now. I'll wait until the new damage model comes out then I'll make the decision to ditch Dora or DCS altogether as so many axis pilots did if this kind of glitches persists. I'm here for the truth not the money. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

The fan boys are quiet now.. They're just in the denial phase. It's ok. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

Because you get to the speeds that were not achieved in RL. And probably defy the laws of physics by doing so. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

Should be in the bug section this 'exploit' of yours:

OK. Show me the exact chase from >2 years ago and I'll believe you.

False, watch it again carefully. Dora's speed doesn't drop below 600km/h unless it climbs. And nevertheless it should and MUST catch up the Mustang quite easily, according to the RL data. Ot used to be like that but not anymore. Rtfm! Read the documentation, that is. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

I'm talking about real life data here. Bf 109 K-4 was faster than the P51D and the Dora was faster than P51D. And it was like that till a couple years ago when something definitely changed. I have many hours of online playing on ACG, Burning Skies, Buddy Spike, now LFDM and I know what I'm talking about. You can also check my stats on those server. And these opinion are not only mine. I brought hard evidence here. As you can see in the video Dora can do 620km/h ~350knot. P51D was never capable of these speeds @ SL. It can do 368MPH that is ~590km/h and that's it. As you can see in the video it can go up and down up and down without losing energy which is nowhere near reality. It WAS not capable of doing those 'tricks' a couple of years ago. Beefed up FM..? I think so, with hard evidence.

..and with a lot of holes in it being lighter, sure. Dora WAS faster @SL with MW50 engaged as IRL. But not anymore, in DCS.

Lookie here triggered boy!

First, you should be banned for this kind of language and ad hominem attacks. Secondly, when two people say you're drunk, you should go to sleep. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk

Triggered?

A bit of both..