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Hi, have you tried this guide?

@EvilBert VR It looks like DCS crashes because of mbucchia's toolkit. Does DCS start successfully when the toolkit is disabled? 2025-01-09 21:33:51.375 INFO VISUALIZER (Main): [22:33:52.040][Info ] OpenXR: Enabled extension: XR_KHR_visibility_mask 2025-01-09 21:33:51.376 INFO VISUALIZER (Main): [22:33:52.040][Info ] OpenXR: Enabled extension: XR_EXT_hand_tracking 2025-01-09 21:33:51.376 INFO VISUALIZER (Main): [22:33:52.040][Info ] OpenXR: Enabled extension: XR_ULTRALEAP_hand_tracking_forearm 2025-01-09 21:33:53.929 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2025-01-09 21:33:53.963 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20250109-213354 -------------- 2025-01-09 21:33:53.963 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.11.4686 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631) 2025-01-09 21:33:53.963 INFO EDCORE (Main): C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSVCP140.dll 2025-01-09 21:33:53.964 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffa614d281f 00:00000000 2025-01-09 21:33:53.964 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'DCS Helipad' 2025-01-09 21:33:53.964 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x100-0x1 2025-01-09 21:33:53.965 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001281f (MSVCP140): std::_Rng_abort + 0x6F 2025-01-09 21:33:53.965 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000006ad5db (vrgSdk): vrgSetPupillaryDistance + 0x4259B 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000650a86 (vrgSdk): vrgEnumerateDevices + 0xB6 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000031ecc (vrg_sdk_openxr): xrNegotiateLoaderRuntimeInterface + 0x2B41C 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000002cb38 (vrg_sdk_openxr): xrNegotiateLoaderRuntimeInterface + 0x26088 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001339e (vrg_sdk_openxr): xrNegotiateLoaderRuntimeInterface + 0xC8EE 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003d2f (vrg_sdk_openxr): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001cc417 (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x469F7 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001bae08 (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x353E8 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000a040 (UltraleapHandTracking): xrNegotiateLoaderApiLayerInterface + 0x680 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000a4e02 (XR_APILAYER_MBUCCHIA_toolkit): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001bfded (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x3A3CD 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001b529c (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x2F87C 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000196ac7 (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x110A7 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001966ae (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x10C8E 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000012006c (Visualizer): try_get_HMDcontroller_pos + 0x8C1C 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000010a221 (Visualizer): TerrainRenderer::updateSharedParams + 0x24D1 2025-01-09 21:33:53.966 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000010d6bb (Visualizer): HMD::initialize + 0x46B 2025-01-09 21:33:53.967 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000091c1dc (DCS): SW + 0x42F70C 2025-01-09 21:33:53.967 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000091abe6 (DCS): SW + 0x42E116 2025-01-09 21:33:53.967 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000226501c (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x11D2018 2025-01-09 21:33:53.967 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000cd4182 (DCS): SW + 0x7E76B2 2025-01-09 21:33:53.967 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001259d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2025-01-09 21:33:54.082 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

Can someone please confirm this bug was fixed?

It seems I also solved the same issue for the A-10C, A-10C II and Ka-50 III after I deleted obsolete .diff.lua files: Conclusion : if some of your modules take long minutes to load: Backup the whole "Input" folder. Look for old unused files and delete them. @Blackfyre

No, not a single red warning. I've just found out THE culprit: This "Config/Input/Mi-24P" folder was the source of my issue. I believe it was the initial Mi-24 input folder before it got replaced by the 3 others. The solution to my problem was to simply erase this" Mi-24P" folder. Now, I'll check all other modules.

Big progress: since I was able to reproduce the problem flawlessly using the Mi-24, I went to "Saved Games/DCS/Config/Input" and renamed all 4 Mi-24P related files. Then the problem was gone! That means the culprit is some custom control binding. I'll keep digging tomorrow!

I'm progressively eliminating any folder content I can find. So far, the content of these are innocent: Mods Scripts fxo metashaders Next target: the Config folder (I made a backup, no worries).

So, the full DCS repair did not help. I wasn't expecting much from the renaming of the Saves Games/DCS folder. I often tell users to try it, especially when I see a lot of mods in their logs. I use little to no mods... and yet, the renaming seems to have fixed it! I'll do more testing but I feel optimistic. Thank you for the advice. I'm now going to try and find out the root cause.

Yes, I've been having this issue with several modules. Earlier tonight, I ran a user's track with the F-16 and it did the same. And ten minutes ago, after the DCS cleanup, I tried an AH-64 instant action mission and the issue did not occur. Then I joined an MP server, selected a Mi-24, hit "OK" and the issue was back.

I rarely start threads in this section of the forum but I'm having a big issue: some modules I want to fly take long minutes to load. In the meantime, DCS is unresponsive. Here's a fresh example: 2025-01-07 20:07:15.532 WARNING LOG (5856): 447 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-01-07 20:07:15.532 WARNING EFFECTS2 (Main): OParticleSystem: preset '' not found in 'shipTrail.lua', using default 2025-01-07 20:07:15.533 ERROR ED_SOUND (Main): source_update(-1, 0000005a9870e7f0): invalid source 2025-01-07 20:07:15.692 WARNING LOG (5856): 83 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-01-07 20:07:15.692 INFO APP (Main): MissionSpawn:spawnLocalPlayer 1000031,Mi-24P 2025-01-07 20:11:32.794 INFO EDCORE (Main): Loaded E:/DCS World/Mods/aircraft/Mi-24P/bin/Mi24.dll 2025-01-07 20:14:57.041 INFO EDCORE (Main): Loaded E:/DCS World/Mods/aircraft/Mi-24P/bin/CockpitMi24.dll 2025-01-07 20:14:57.850 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver "ARC_15" with id - 0 2025-01-07 20:14:57.853 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver/transmitter "R_863" with id - 1 I checked my default Windows antivirus and it still has an exception for the main DCS folder. Next step: a full DCS cleanup and repair. If you have other ideas, I take them.

Yes, but your D:\ drive (on which DCS is installed) is the "ST2000DM006-2D3164", which is a HDD.

Thanks for your feedback.

I filed and internal report about this MP issue a few days ago, so no need to bump the report for now.

Hey @cfrag. Can you please confirm this issue was fixed with the Christmas update?

Thank you. I tried replaying your track but the Huey hit the ground shortly after takeoff. I'll simply run the mission and try to follow the beacon using the ADF. Were you trying to locate a dynamic CSAR beacon (downed pilot) or a beacon scripted in a submission?

I'm not affected by this issue. Have you got any mods installed? Please attach your dcs.log (from Saved Games/DCS..../Logs).

Is that reported somewhere? It's the first time I hear about it.

I'm thinking maybe the issue happens because of a server script. Can you please tell us which servers you're seeing this bug on?

Thank you. I'm now trying to reproduce the bug using the same conditions. EDIT: unable to reproduce. null

@Fear-Factor The crater that we see in your latest video, did you see the bug right away, or did you see it after a while, while returning to this base?

Yes, what happens is that a "Voronka" crater pops under dead units (located in .\DCS World\Bazar\TempTextures\Voronka.dds). So I guess I need to destroy units to try and reproduce the bug. I'll try again. The issue is now officially reported, by the way.

Although we can't seem to reproduce this issue using tracks, I'll ask devs to check if they see anything wrong with this crater texture...

Thanks for your precious feedback.

I've just bumped the internal report.

@Cjayster13 Please attach your mission.