FragBum

As I have said before the guys at PC are working on their new Helicopter and are also accessing/revising the Gazelle. Great news. Currently the cyclic is centric in action which feels different to the other DCS helicopters, this could be correct for the real deal I don't know. I have no problems with the sensitivity of the cyclic but I also have essentially a "modelled" cyclic for input no center detent or springs etc, I did find it difficult to fly with a "joy stick" input but that's another story. For the DCS Gazelle flight control is very direct and controllable once your used to using mostly just slight pressure on the cyclic to provide input and of course it is more responsive then the Huey different rotor designs and the Gazelle is also less than half the weight of the Huey. I used to run saturation down somewhere around 28 for cyclic until I got some time in an R44 (4.8 hrs logged) where I had to deal with you got it sensitive cyclic input the take home from that was I needed much better input controls then what I had at the time and way more spare money than I have. :D One stark difference is transitioning into forward flight as the helicopter gains forward speed the nose will lift due to increased relative airspeed over the rotor at 90deg left or right side depending on rotational direction of the rotor which asserts lift at the front (gyroscopic precision) requiring more forward movement of the cyclic to maintain attitude. The first time I experienced this it was a real eye opener set power for climb at 60 KTS and gradually move the cyclic more and more forward to maintain 500Ft/min at 60KTS. This does not happen with the DCS Gazelle indeed if you apply any forward pressure on the cyclic whilst accelerating forward it will push the nose down. Interestingly if you carefully pretend and slightly allow the nose to come up a little the climb rate seems correct but there simply isn't a requirement to move the cyclic forward to compensate for blow back. Now if anyone has a Gazelle and their IP ratting I'd be up for some instruction time in one. Just putting it out there. :thumbup: Looking at videos of Gazelle and other small Helis cyclic input for control is usually (mostly) fairly small, watch some of those guys doing crop dusting etc. Aside I do consider Chuck Aaron's videos and others as instructional content. :joystick: :D

More to it you missed a reply where I said, *I'm not sure why it's like that." Link here. This is just an observation,.. I am not a pilot IRL, Okay. But the Gazelle's cyclic is centric in nature. The inputs may well be correct, actually they feel like the other heli's but there seems to be no need to counter/correct for changes in CoG or other effects like Blow Back etc, within the cyclic input. I'd beg to differ with usable cyclic area/input, I use a lot of cyclic at times in all Heli's including the Gazelle, as with all heli's less input is more control. :pilotfly: :D There have been many discussions re PA and SAS, What it means is it Electrical (Electronic) control or Hydraulic control or some combination? I suspect but don't now for sure but they operate to hide some detail from the pilot, maybe maybe not, I don't know. If this is how they come from the factory, I'm fine with that. :thumbup: Welcome to the conundrum. :)

I don't find that at all, set power as required adjust attitude with cyclic fine tune settings, I do find the Gazelle more finicky with cyclic here small "adjustments" and wait and kinda average it out over a few seconds tends to reduce PIO. I think you'll find the smaller helicopters are more susceptible to conditions and need more attention to controls, you should also avoid pumping the collective, occasional adjustment as necessary.

Just dumped the Combat Pros for scratch build pedals. :music_whistling:

Shall we say this was an eye opener for me. :thumbup:

Yes been a long week! Yes XMP defaults CPU clock but it never gets through a boot there after., eventually it comes back saying overclocking failed press F1. Sigh,.. Long story short the motherboard is on it's way back as a warranty claim. :cry: The good news is a 9600K build I did for my wife is testing AOK whilst the other is sorted out, there is a plan to this second rig. :thumbup: And given how much testing in DCS I've done and how well this 9600K Rig is doing it seems the other hardware had issues. Ah well shyt happens.

Oh so it is,.. Doh! :poster_oops:

Ah Demon_ was also asking what is the screen resolution of the monitor you use? :thumbup:

Do you mean when you F2 between other aircraft, just turn down 'World" sound level. :)

I wold also suggest a VR Simpit section which is where I sit, keen to have a pit WIP but not so hard core to replicate an aircraft. I've scratch built pedals and collective and cyclic.

Just in case anyone is interested, added the damper and a few adjustments now working great. Damper installed this gives the pedals a very nice feel and also allows me to take my feet off as they stay right where they a left. Here is the pickup as the output is between .8ish and 4.3ish volts I used the DCS "Axis Tune" to get full input from the sensor. Next sort out the cyclic. :pilotfly:

Which is why your posts are not helpful, I will leave the OP in capable hands there are many helpful people out there and that's not including you. Please for the op's sake re-frame from posting. Thank you, :D You edited your posts to save face be honest. :thumbup:

I think you are conflating reality and your world. You are correct about pulling more idiots. :thumbup:

Agree. :thumbup:

There are programs that can help you.

And the practical difference for the average gamer in a "Phat 4 phase" verses an "8 phase" means you don't need to drink coffee, right I see. :( I mean it's not like it's 50Hz/60Hz it's high frequency PWM. :music_whistling:

Oh I think someone got phooey because Asus claimed 8 phase verses a parallel 4 phase VRM solution and because of that unicorns would fart in your car when you unlocked it and it would smell wonderful all day long, your coffee would never go cold and life is peachy well that's what marketing said,.. :P:D The faster RAM should be selected with a view to somewhere around ~10% improvement in memory through put depending on task in practise, even though the raw numbers sound somewhat disproportionate that's about it. AFAIK.

I'd suggest a fully modular PSU 750W to 850W It will help to keep cabling neater in the case Link here. You can also get different length cable assemblies if you need shorter or longer cables or even different colour sleeved cable assemblies to match your build. The EVGA modular PSU's come with a full set of cables but you only use the ones you need and there black sleeved so will match the inside colour of your case.. <edit> Your motherboard supports faster RAM for a few bucks more you might want to consider 3200 seems prices go up from about the speed RAM Tight timings yield faster throughput but usually cost a bit more. Perhaps something like this link here No matter what RAM you get check that it is on the mother QVL list to ensure comparability.

You might be running out of CPU what is your CPU usage here? Yes adding another GPU will depending on your CPU/Motherboard will also share the PCIe bandwidth.

Yes you should start with what you want the PC for. There is no problem using thread ripper ist's just overkill and for DCS especially core clock rates currently are the deciding factor for CPU. The case looks nice in deed I just finished my first glass both sides case build and it was more challenging then I expected neat enough doesn't cut it when it's in a window presentation to my handy work. ;) If you want AMD wait till the Ryzen 3000's come out might be worth it perhaps a 2700 now although I don't know how well they clock. Currently 8600K 8700K 9600K 9700K Probably Z390 it will run 8th gen CPU's 32GB fast RAM helps FPS especially in VR 2080Ti as much as I hate to say it but it gets you 11GB VRAM I regularly use 10GB plus VRAM usage on servers which also means the R VII with 16GB HBM2 might be an alternative we are eagerly awaiting someone to buy one and report back. :P I've just finished a 9600K build haven't OC'ed it yet but it's proving to be great bang for the bucks.

From what I have read and certainly in game is that it's more common (for me) to get into a situation of settling with power or simply not having enough power to control sink rate as opposed to VRS. But I have also gotten into VRS even in the Gazelle. Flying Through the Vortex link. As to FM the last major update was IMHO a huge step in the right direction and the lads are learning a lot from developing their new model so again it can only get better. I also think some of the bad FM arguments stem from the controller that users have for cyclic input, I've said it before but for me making an actual cyclic for use in DCS had a profound effect on all helicopters and especially the Gazelle. YMMV :thumbup:

I used EVGA in both my DCS Rig and now this build and TBH the case fans are the only fans I have heard, keep in mind I have the Rift on so honestly fan noise doesn't come into it. Seasonic are a bit more expensive here and unfortunately EVGA's market presence here is not as strong as it was a couple of years ago. I'd also consider the 9700K if it's within budget my 9600K build was based on having a 1080Ti , case, memory and heatsink on hand and looking for best bang per buck with a limited budget. Oh and I would have picked up the EVGA 850W PSU if it wasn't nearly $100 more. Just to give you guys an idea on costs here. AUD 8350K $300 $75/core 9600K $419 $70/core 9700K $699 $87/core 9900K $899 $112/core (ignoring HT and that $500 difference buys my wifes Rift ;)) I'd also say just get a SATA SSD if that saves enough to maybe go 9700K and or better GPU or RAM the difference in game is negligible just slightly longer loading times. My DCS rigs motherboard has been sent away for a warranty claim so I get to test this rig for a while, one aspect that blew me away last night after everything was downloaded and I set up the controls, I set up a quick mission all be it in NTTR Groom AFB with Gazelle with constant 90FPS with Rift and 45FPS to 90FPS in Caucasus. I'm going to slot my 2080Ti in over the weekend for more testing umm flying. :thumbup:

Agree Headwarp After D/L DCS and testing on this 9600K build anything 9600K or better and 750W to 850W should be fine.

Agree if I where to do a balls against the wall build I would do a 9900X build Vulkan and all. But maybe Ryxen 3000 eh? ;)

Yes that's what I see, memory bandwidth whether by number of channels or raw through put can be a significant improvement for DCS.