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nessuno0505

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  1. It could be acceptable if it's the maximum possible, but that would mean the end of RB's modules, as it has been for the hawk (is there really some hawk owner using an old DCS version to fly it?)
  2. I guess it can take a lot of time then: if it's already going on for a year and now lawyers are involved, it could take years to conclude. What about the plan for RB's modules in the meanwhile? I can't imagine DCS development to stop and wait for the resolution of the dispute. If (better say when) RB modules will stop to work and the dispute will be still ongoing, what is the plan for their owners? Is there already one?
  3. A leggere questo topic mi viene quasi voglia di comperare un altro elicottero (io ho ka-50, huey e mi-8)... peccato che dopo il fatto di RB la spinta a investire ancora su DCS sia molto calata... spero ci dicano presto quali sono i piani (anche perchè una soluzione la vedo abbastanza lontana)...
  4. What about all the other RB modules? What's the plan "if the worst possible scenario happens"? Can we have an official answer on this please?
  5. Plausible, why not? Obviously speculations, the truth is that we do not know (none of us). But if this is going on for a year and RB's decision in only the last act of a long story, I doubt we'll see it resolved anytime soon. ED has to decide what to do because in the meanwhile RB's modules will age quickly and eventually stop working.
  6. I am well aware of all the claims. But if the dispute and the alleged suspension of funds has been going on for a year, why only today has RB decided to stop the updates, creating a detriment to users? Wouldn't you define this "suddenly"? What happened during that year? I guess negotiations, otherwise you don't work a year for free. So why (again) suddenly stop the updates?
  7. I agree with you. It's RB that suddently decided to stop updates, even if it seems the debate is ongoing for a year...
  8. If this is the nature of the debate, why the hell did DCS players get in the middle of it? Who do we want to blame? Meditate people, meditate...
  9. I agree. Premise: I do not own RB modules. But, as far as I'm concerned, I am more prone to consider F-15E not refundable, since in early access and thus not sure to be finished by definition. All the other RB modules are finished products so they must continue to work until DCS world exists. "We will not refund, if they break install an older version" is the same non-solution of the veao hawke! I hope RB comes back to work, so they can improve and refine all their modules (I am still waiting for the av-8b manual before purchase), but if Razbam leaves, to refund only the f-15 and to suggest people to run older DCS versions for the other RB's modules is not a proper answer. I hope this is only a SkateZilla's idea and not ED's plan if things go wrong. What former RB's collaborators say on Discord is not necessarily all the truth, and we do not know the whole story. Other 3rd parties are regularly paid, so why not RB?
  10. Maybe ED couldn't and maybe can't remove RB's modules from the store, to avoid non-contractual actions. But now that RB itself has put an official statement on its website, perhaps a link to that statement on the razbam modules store pages could be added? Just asking.
  11. What tool? The will?
  12. Posso farla anch'io una considerazione? Dcs è un bellissimo simulatore e in un momento come questo, con tanti nuovi moduli all'orizzonte e tante terze parti in arrivo, non se la meritava proprio una porcata come quella di Razbam. Non so come andrà a finire, ma mi chiedo quale potrebbe essere la soluzione migliore anche sul lungo termine (e chi vuole intendere intenda).
  13. It's obvious they do not want. It seems that ED is more interested in keeping RB than RB in staying.
  14. I do not have discord but I'm curious, can you summarize? The av-8b is one of my favourite planes but I do not have the module because I never trusted RB (and it still lacks a manual, an unbelievable anomaly for a "finished"(?) product).
  15. Non voglio andare off topic ma RB ha dichiarato fermamente sul suo discord (che non seguo ma di cui è stato postato lo screenshot qui sul forum) che ED non ha il suo codice sorgente; la stessa ED (questa prendila con le pinze) avrebbe detto di non avere alcuna intenzione di farsi carico dei moduli RB (4 moduli - di cui uno complessissimo e ancora in gran parte da finire - e una mappa? Anche volendo come potrebbe con tutta la roba che ha in cantiere di suo?). So cosa disse ED dopo i fatti di Veao, ma non sono convinto sia questo il caso e non mi dispiacerebbe sapere qual è il piano (ce ne sarà uno?) nel caso andasse tutto in vacca. Sono di bocca buona: credito nello shop, ED miles gratis, un modulo a scelta in cambio, io mi riterrei comunque soddisfatto e protetto da possibili recidive future (non c'è due senza tre). Ciò detto, a mio avviso dcs senza terze parti oggi sarebbe comunque molto meglio di come era quando c'erano solo a-10 e ka-50! Tornando in topic: ok il modello di volo non sarà perfetto, ma almeno è decente e adatto agli standard di dcs, non come quella porcata del gazelle. Magari sarà ulteriormente affinato, magari no. Ma un gazelle rifatto sulla falsariga di questo oh58 mi farebbe completamente rivalutare in positivo questa terza parte, lasciando RB a sguazzare da sola in mezzo ai liquami della latrina di dcs.
  16. I agree with you on this: the main fault being RB, people who are little to trust (and this is why fortuately I do not own their modules - but I've been colse to buy the m2000). Nevertheless today is RB, yesterday was Veao, tomorrow who knows? ED said they have taken countermeasures after the Veao fact, but we still do not know what this countermeasures are made of. Maybe we won't need them and RB will be back to work, but I need to know what I have: my rwr is ringing like crazy and I don't know if I have chaff, flares, ecm or what else (have I got something or is it just a placebo and I have none?). I hope the missile misses, but we already have been hit once.
  17. M2000, AV-8B and Mig-19 are out of early access and now unsupported.
  18. Because this is the most relevant fact happened to DCS since the Veao event and it severely affects DCS as a whole. Every DCS player should be interested in this. The trust in this simulator is challenged.
  19. I'm not saying I'm a legal expert, I do not want a subscription model if ED is not interested and I don't have any issue with ED. Every piece of software dies sooner or later, and so will be for DCS. But DCS works because they sell incomplete modules that require years to be finished and I buy them in an incomplete state assuming they'll finish them, also thanks to the money they earn from the sale of the next incomplete module I buy. Do you want to see an environment full of finished modules that work together (maybe in complex missions online or in a future dynamic campaign) or do you prefer a huge amount of partially cooked software, like a Ponzi scheme? If you believe in the first dream (and I assume it's also ED's dream) you have to assure every module is supported, at least as long as DCS exists. Since the world goes on and things happen (a company can go bankrupt, a developer can die and so on) you have to find a way to protect your customers in the event something happens. I'd like to know if there's a plan for such events even if tomorrow RB comes back to work (I won't buy from them since my trust in them is below zero, but that's another matter).
  20. Sì, sostanzialmente concordo. Il problema non sono nemmeno i moduli RB, che manco ho. Il problema è capire come la ED pensa di gestire le possibili evenienze di terze parti che se ne vanno: vi sono alcune realtà costituite da un solo sviluppatore: quello che fa l'I-16 è un "one man band". Se muore (gli auguro lunga vita e prosperità, sia chiaro, ma nessuno è immortale e poi è tanto per fare un'ipotesi) i suoi moduli che fine fanno? Se il fatto di RB si risolve per il meglio tutto torna alla normalità e non lo sapremo mai fino al prossimo evento (che prima o poi accadrà, come è accaduto con veao). Se invece la trattativa va all'aria e RB lascia, vedremo come verrà gestita la questione; credo che sarà molto interessante vedere cosa deciderà di fare ED (in realtà sarebbe importante avere un piano e comunicarlo agli utenti anche se la cosa si risolve e RB torna al lavoro).
  21. It's not a matter of money: I do not own any of the Razbam modules so my DCS is not affected. It's a matter of trust: you have a sale system based on always new payware modules: I pay for the new module so you can continue to work and complete the previous ones too. If 4 of the previous modules expire, how can I be sure you'll complete the last one? Change your sale system with a subscription model, and It will no longer be a problem if the modules expire. I'm not saying I want a subscription model. I'm saying with the current model you cannot allow to let modules expire. If, despite all your efforts, nevertheless some modules expire, you must find a way to compensate customers. Until I won't know how (or until the situation is back to normal) I'm sorry but my wallet is closed. My income would allow, but I can choose to put money elsewhere in the meantime; fortunately DCS is not my one and only hobby.
  22. Beh comunque ottima notizia questa recensione di giaco! Per una volta hanno fatto quanto promesso: hanno capito che il FM del gazelle era sbagliato e hanno decisamente corretto il tiro col modulo successivo (il coder ha fatto esperienza? gliene hanno affiancato un altro più esperto di elicotteri? comunque sia, ottimo risultato!). Ora però bisogna mettere mano al Gazelle. Se lo faranno, davvero stavolta glieli compero tutti e due in una volta sola! Perchè alla fine sbagliare si può, migliorare e correggersi è segno di rispetto verso i clienti. P.S. premesso che, prima di comperare qualsiasi altra cosa, io voglio capire come evolverà la faccenda di Razbam (pur non avendo fatto l'errore di acquistare qualche loro modulo - e col mirage 2000 ci sono andato vicino); tuttavia mi auguro che i tempi per chiarire la questione siano molto più rapidi di quelli che verosimilmente ci metteranno a rivedere il gazelle, di modo che a cose fatte avrò già ricominciato a dare fiducia a questo ambiente simulativo...
  23. We do not have a clue about payments, the only thing we know is that some ex razbam developer has complained about not being paid. Someone also mentioned a presumed unauthorized use of the DCS license for a military client by RB. Both those things are just speculation. RB decided to stop development, blaming "extarnal factors" (namely ED); ED answered that it's not true. End of the official statements.
  24. If I were ED I'll send RB to hell at the cost of giving free modules in compensation to all of their customers. After a story like this, it's better to cut ties and clean up, best choice in the long term IMHO.
  25. I do not own a lot of DCS modules, and those I own are all made by ED, being the only three 3rd party I have the Mig-21, the MB-339 and the Syria map. Of those three, the Mig-21 is aging badly even if its developer is still an active 3rd party (a different problem compared to a developer who leaves, but a problem as well). I never trusted RB and I hope they leave DCS environment, nevertheless I'm not confident in buying other modules until the RB issue is solved and I've seen ED answer to RB customers. Free modules or free miles would be an appropriate answer and I'll be ready to buy again if this will be the solution. I won't leave DCS, since I can enjoy all the core upgrades and the improvements of the modules I already own. I love all flight sims, both military and civilian, so my expensive hardware stuff can be "recycled" (and in fact is already used) to play other games in addition to DCS.
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