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When you start thinking like your wife in thinking "So this is what it feels like to sit on a massive cannon."

TrackIR. Donate a kidney for it.

That's a nice looking manual. Yeah for any simmer priority is HOTAS -> TrackIR -> Rudder pedals -> anything else. You will NOT regret TrackIR. Re head movements, think of it this way - you need to look at the screen to fly anyway. If you have to move your head to look down to read your manual, look outside or just give recognition to your other half, your eyes aren't on the screen regardless, so it doesn't matter how you fly or what you (can't) see on screen. As soon as you look forward and get back to flying, TrackIR will adjust itself as well. The only downside is if you want to sink backwards into your chair - TrackIR will register that and move your view backwards accordingly. But when bullets start pinging against your hull, you'll probably perk up again anyway.

haha fair enough. And after that there's nothing more to be said.

Why? It's just a discussion. No malice or any bad feeling is intended. Think of it as the type of talk you'd just have with buddies sitting around with a beer.

Um, I think you're mixing up your arguments here, or going off on a tangent or maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. So are you saying that we should fear women because of a generalised notion of a woman's fury? Doesn't that kinda go against your first argument... If someone in here has married a woman that is utterly controlling, I doubt they'd be able to play or even buy a computer for simming in the first place. We're all here cos our partners have accpeted that this is our hobby. And yes - read my post again. We can all probably drop the $400 now - it's just what we're willing to give up for it and how you would justify it for yourself. Not what your spouse thinks. When you look at it, $400 is not that much - I seriously doubt that most of us would miss it after a month - two at max. I don't understand what you're arguing here. Is your point that she'll look at the purchase as something to use against us 5 yrs down the track? Isn't this going against your earlier argument also? That a a man should be able to buy what he wants without fear of any repercussions from the missus. Well, adopting the 50/50 principle you stated - that marriages are about being equal - I'll just look at her handbags/shoes and say 5 yrs down the track - "if you hadn't wasted so much money on that LV wallet...." (cos that's how much the TM is worth, not even a designer handbag) I'd like to think I have an average wife, as do most of us I'm willing to bet. There's nothing special about my woman. She rolls her eyes and arches her eyebrow with the best of them. As such, I'm willing making a generalisation myself - that marriages really are 50/50 and if it came down to it, she probably won't stop you from buying the TM right now if you tell her that it's what you really wanted. Your argument is that it's our spouses that stop us from purchasing what we want. Mine is that it's not really them, it's really us and our guilty conscience but it's fun to blame the other half. We're not 'scared' of our wives per se.

From what I've read of net reviews (it's on the net so it's gospel), the g940 does have its problems. It's a good package but not up to the build standard of its comparable price range. Just google a few reviews and see what other simmers have to say about it. But then again it is the complete package - HOTAS + rudder pedals. Personally, for that amount of money, I'd rather have the TM:WH or even the x-65f.

Way to look down at ppl that are sharing a joke - maybe try to get in on it instead of looking down your nose at others? I doubt there's anyone on here that's really 'scared' of their spouses. We're all adults here and can probably easily drop the $400 right now - even if your bank balance is below that (doubtful), there is the plastic fantastic. What we're all fully aware of and you mentioned in your post (but failed to fully understand) that it is our own money and we do have bills to pay. There's the rent/mortgage/utilities/cc payments/car/transport/grocery and don't get me started on the cost of children. What I'm trying to say is that while we can buy the TM the day it comes out, most of us have a some sort of financial nous that weighs up the cost of the bills you mentioned with something that's basically a non-essential. It boils down to how long you can hold out and whether you can justify the price for yourself. In a sense, most of us are using our partners as our money conscience, if you will - and we're the devils advocate. So what's really stopping us impulse buying it is the knowledge of the responsibilities that we all have - unless you're still living with your parents. Part of the fun is lamenting what our partners will say and their reactions. However, if it comes down to it and I tell my wife - "Honey, this is something that I really want, right now" then I know that she won't try to stop me or nag about it. And it's not gonna be a deal breaker. I mean c'mon - losing your relationship over $400..... I don't think so.

Kinda hard for me cos we have a shared account - but I just wait til she's got her eye on a new bag/jewellry/accessory then say "Lets reward ourselves". And she's got her eye on something more often than I do.... and it's usually something more than $400.

The question is did ED achieve the goals they set out for themselves? I'd argue they did - and did it extremely well. And the difference here is that they didn't write software to the specs of the customer - they wrote it to their specs and released it as a general rollout, as is. You didn't commission them to release software to your specs. If that were the case, then you have every right to complain about 'critical' features missing. ED didn't fail or miss a critical feature, they only failed to your expectations - which, unfortunately, doesn't mean much.

Hehe. Wonder if he was thinking - 'what's everyone going on about? This thing is EASY to fly'.

Ah ok. Thought they were just printing out what we get and then selling it.

Whoa shit. They offering ka-50 printed manual for 24.99euros Can they do that? Make money off an ED product?

No it is not piece of good writing as far as reviews go. However, what everyone's getting worked up about is that it's kudos from an actual combat heli pilot, and not someone who claims to be one. Not only that, but an experienced, decorated Apache pilot no less. For someone who's logged thousands of hours in real life combat situations, to call a mass market helicopter simulation 'phenomenal' is saying something - something that I think you've missed the point of. So the 'review' is more about approval from a well respected combat pilot rather than the actual game itself. Does the review itself plug his book? Apart from the blurb at the end (which all authors do, even respected TIME journalists), there is nothing that could be seen as promoting his book. You're also forgetting that Ed's name is nothing new in the Longbow community. So if he's trying to actually sell his book, he's preaching to the choir.

Well you can mimic what rl pilots do as well to get that performance from the BS.

You're missing the whole point of a study sim if this is how you view simulations. What are the chances that any of us will get into a real F-16 Or for that matter pilot a real jumbo? Fire a real tank? Drive a real nascar? To some, the whole point of a simulation is to get as close to the real thing as is possible given the confines of your pc, and your everyday surroundings. Of course we can't all build our home cockpits, but one small way of making up for this is to emulate what would happen in real life. In the end though, it is a game. So play it how you want to and what's fun for you, but you can't dismiss the point of a simulation.

Where's my tinfoil hat? Maybe the same types of comments keep popping up because of the simple reason that it works... and works well? That it really does add a new dimension to flight-simming? y'know, sometimes the simplest answer.....

When I first started, I was told never to touch the 3 APs or the FD (as rl BS pilots are taught), so that's how I learnt how to fly. Now I don't find holding the trimmer while maneuvering cumbersome at all. It's become so second nature that it's almost a reflex action. I have no issues with hard evasive maneuvers either.

It's not trim reset you should be pressing. It's the trimmer itself. The real world BS doesn't have a trim reset... it's an in-game thing and was only put in because of user requests. Though I don't know why...

The BS can handle a lot more than that though. It is after all, a military attack chopper and you can be rough with it. It just takes time and getting to know the Shark.

Ah the memories.... I think we all used to have that problem starting out. I remember cussing the BS and thinking what a pos it was to fly. Now, it's like driving a car and I can't remember the last time I've had a rotor clash. My problem was that I wasn't checking where my rudder position was. If you have too much right rudder, combined with high speeds and particularly if you're turning right, your blades will clash. Use the Rctrl-Enter tool to see the position of your rudder and cyclic. This helped me greatly in gauging when a rotor clash might happen. Now I can fly without the tool just by the 'feel' of the helicopter.

Get TrackIR first - it will greatly increase your immersion factor, moreso than a touch panel imo.

You've gone off on a tangent there. It's exactly like the EtherealN said - apples and oranges. I was addressing the actual flight side of the F16 v BS in response to Theox saying that it was easier. He wasn't clear in his post in what he means. You cannot compare the tactical deployment of an multi-role aircraft to that of an attack chopper. They're in different worlds. One could argue that the BVR capabilities makes fighting in modern aircraft too easy. Where's the skill in getting AWACS updates then just letting loose? Dogfights? Do they happen often (apart from Top Gun?). Whereas an attack chopper is close enough to be on the receiving end of every enemy with a RPG and small arms fire. Not to mention manpads, AAA etc.. They're 2 completely different combat worlds. Are you saying you don't need any situational awareness or tactics when flying an attack chopper? Regardless, I already stated the flight model of both and a chopper is much harder to fly. Avionics, only OF came to the level of complexity that BS has. There's no way AF achieved that.

You're joking right? The f16 is so easy to fly, it practically flies itself. The cockpit is straightforward and the avionics were designed to be easy on the pilot. Everything was designed so that the pilot can concentrate on one thing and one thing only - combat. Bombs even release themselves! Compare that to the BS.... have you navigated your ABRIS and GPS systems? How about setting up waypoints? Have you memorised the EKRAN codes... or what the ARK-22 does? And if we were to compare flight models of the two.... lets jut say that apart from trying to fly a heli, which is a lot harder than a jet, the actual flight model of this game is still ahead of the F4:AF. I'm not knocking F4, I loved the sim. I bet everybody in here loves it... we're all simmers if we're here. But DCS:BS has set the new benchmark. If you're gong to compare it to Falcon, the only one that I would compare it to is OP.... and even then only for the detailed avionics. The flight model is still F4.

I agree that balance shouldn't come into play if we're talking about aircraft performance. That's not realistic at all and it's all about the realism. Maybe a points system might come into play for multiplayer, ie, each plane is worth a certain amount of points with the eastern planes worth alot less. That would be semi-realistic, as the costs to produce a western fighter are probably higher.