PlainSight

I already started the topic some time ago: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=85277

Some community members will just have to be the test bunnies to try and review the planes for us, if there will be no "try before you buy" option.

I wish they'd do another map and just let the 3rd devs to do the planes. Since it takes more than two years to make one, they should get on it asap.

F16 is the best (looking) single seat multitasker out there. And if one comes for DCS, i'll buy that too. I love this plane. Its versatility makes up for the lack of other planes in F4, so "only one plane" argument doesn't really count with me. No point in arguing which sim is better either, everybody must play both, end of story.

Russians use metric system, that would cause serious calculation issues in the "imperial" brain. I'll stick to my "teens", thank you very much.

With all the announcements starting to show here, i've finally bought another pair of cougar MFDs and 7" touchscreen display. Something i always wanted since i got the first pair. The end result is a F15-16-18 oriented front panel which should come in handy with future planes. I've always wanted to have F16 ICP on touchscreen. Now i have to do the A10 UFC and learn how to do multiple panels in Helios. GREAT software btw.

Why would you play a fps game with a joystick?

developers will create a rep for themselves. Updates, support, fidelity. ED has it, now we'll see what will others come up with.

NOO, that would considered treason, they will never abandon F4. Keep the legend alive. I'm sure someone else could do the F16 for World, but BMS must keep F4 up and running. Competition is a good thing, keeps devs motivated.

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Same here, brake axis fits well on the slider, since it's not used so often. My zoom is mapped on the MIC hat forward-aft for easy reach during HOTAS action.

"It takes forever +/- 2 weeks for the A-10 to get anywhere significant..." Ice Now you know

I was just thinking about that. Each plane should have it's own complete profile, with controls, graphics, screen setup, sound, for that particular plane. Or there will be a default screen layout for each plane and you just modify that once and it loads by default every time.

What's that huge lid thingy behind the cockpit? Models that I remember had cool split doors that pulled to sides to uncover the vent, so (wtf) is this? EDIT: ok, it's a fan cover, but why the design change?

F15 has the same style, so they couldn't go wrong with it. I'd buy just the stick, not the whole package

People should buy/fly FSX, before jumping into DCS. Spending time in a civil environment learning to fly, land, navigate, night, IFR,..., before trying the same in DCS, then go to weapons&stuff.

I was thinking more about game elements. Like Freespace 2, for example. Menus, story, campaigns, not just the "bare" plane study sim. But i guess DCS will always lack these elements and will focus solely on realism.

I'm a happy camper with longbow2 avionics standard, given the level of classified data and such small team. When ED makes one, i'l buy that too.

ROF is great for practicing ACM. Same principles apply. CloD? i don't know, never played it.

That's microsoft, making sure that anyone with a computer(child, grandmother) can pick it up and play.

BMS completely changed the fighter scene these couple of months, we can't go past that. So why buy something when BMS does the same thing way better for basically free? Cos once you know one "teen" fighter, you know'em all. DCS fighter will have to do so much more, especially after FC3, where those planes and cockpits will look even more similar to DCS series. I now sincerely believe ED should work only on FC3, bringing all those fighters in one game and as detailed as possible, with working cockpits, 6dof,... They don't have to be crazy-detailed like the A10c, sheer number of planes available should make it worth it. mig 29 and su30 on one one side, fa18 and f15 on the other, plus addon planes afterwards. If done well, it wouldn't matter what the competition does, because lomac is still the only game with russian jets.

Naval ops are now the only unexplored area left, since A10c and F16 cover the rest. There hasn't been a dedicated naval game a LONG time and people want new stuff besides the usual combat and avionics.

Until BMS puts out THEIR fa-18 :devil: They're so close, i did some traps with included fa18, but it's not finished YET.

^That's how ROF grows, from a buggy game to the top sim, with continuous development and constant flow of quality stuff. It's very simple to update, works great and everything is in one place. It wouldn't be possible to include all this stuff in the first release. ED should pull all these iterations together under one roof, before releasing even more.

:thumbup: +1rep for the truth