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My opinion of this is that if there isn't going to be lcd-screens inside the frames you might as well stick to the keyboard. I'd say people interested in buying these would most definitely go buy third part lcd-screens and put inside the frames anyway, so cost isn't really an issue. TM could just put "their own" usb-powered lcd display inside the frame and go for the full package instead of selling a half baked product like this.

 

 

edit: I just saw form the other thread about this that the price isn't very high at all. It's in fact quite cheap. Hmm... maybe I'll revise my statement a bit ;)

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edit: I just saw form the other thread about this that the price isn't very high at all. It's in fact quite cheap. Hmm... maybe I'll revise my statement a bit ;)

 

 

Exactly. The last similar product was the CH MFP, which was also quite a bit more expensive for just a single unit. CH MFPs have been a common sight in the Falcon 4 world for a long time, I don't know about the Lock-On world, but many have been looking for a cheaper alternative.

 

They are what they are, extra controllers to compliment your HOTAS, and I think they will be excellent for that. Obviously you don't have to map them to MFD OSBs, but personally that's exactly what I'll be doing in DCS:A10C. Having physical buttons to press is always much faster and more immersive than clicking a mouse on the screen, even if those physical buttons don't have a screen in the middle of them.

 

Of course, there is nothing to stop anyone going out and grabbing a 5" screen or something and attaching these to the front.

 

I tell you, with Dual HOTAS systems popping up left and right and now these, I'm beginning to think that Flight Sims may be coming up on a second golden age with the impending relase of A10C and projects from other developers (Lead Persuit for example). Here's hoping eh..........

 

 

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well, In my production F-16 sim, 7 inch LCD's ( samsung 7 inch USB) will work perfect. They are about $100 plus shipping on ebay. I have the LCd mounted in my cockpit and now I'm waiting for thrustmaster!

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Hey guys maybe you can help understand how this thing is actually going to work.

 

If I understand correctly, you wont be able to actually use one of those screens as your "shkval" even though it shows in the picture some sort of targeting cam being displayed. right? Its just got some lights that light behind cardboard cut outs or something. Be cool if they made it so you could at least use one of the screens as a full blown targeting cam. Its still cool to have some extra lights and buttons though.

 

Also I couldnt find any pricing info on the detail pages. You guys mind enlightening me as to the price? Thanks.

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Hey guys maybe you can help understand how this thing is actually going to work.

 

If I understand correctly, you wont be able to actually use one of those screens as your "shkval" even though it shows in the picture some sort of targeting cam being displayed. right? Its just got some lights that light behind cardboard cut outs or something. Be cool if they made it so you could at least use one of the screens as a full blown targeting cam. Its still cool to have some extra lights and buttons though.

 

Also I couldnt find any pricing info on the detail pages. You guys mind enlightening me as to the price? Thanks.

 

They don't have screen, just 2 bits of plexiglass so you can slip a picture of your choice with key assignments etc on.

 

Price is 79.99 Euros per set of two.

 

 

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Hey guys maybe you can help understand how this thing is actually going to work.

 

If I understand correctly, you wont be able to actually use one of those screens as your "shkval" even though it shows in the picture some sort of targeting cam being displayed. right? Its just got some lights that light behind cardboard cut outs or something. Be cool if they made it so you could at least use one of the screens as a full blown targeting cam. Its still cool to have some extra lights and buttons though.

 

Also I couldnt find any pricing info on the detail pages. You guys mind enlightening me as to the price? Thanks.

 

You can use it as a screen frame, just attach it in front of the LCD screen that has Shkval slaved to it!

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AFAIK the USB screen will not work for falcon has any body gotten them to work with BS? IF not then only small monitors with regular cables will work?

 

well, In my production F-16 sim, 7 inch LCD's ( samsung 7 inch USB) will work perfect. They are about $100 plus shipping on ebay. I have the LCd mounted in my cockpit and now I'm waiting for thrustmaster!

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AFAIK the USB screen will not work for falcon has any body gotten them to work with BS? IF not then only small monitors with regular cables will work?

 

Well, you are mistaken!

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You guys will have to forgive my ignorance, Im not as savvy as most of you lol.

(not as much money either lol).

 

Im still not sure what this will actually do out of the box other than light up and provide some more programmable buttons.

 

At this point im pretty sure those two screen things are picture frames for pictures of your family. :)

 

Fear not, as I am sure one of you will no doubt have one in your home soon, and when you do........please make a demonstration video. :)

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For a small business owner you realy need to work on your communication skill.

 

"More Info will come later" seams clear enough to me :smilewink:

I'm also very interested in whether/how well usb screens work with DCS, I'd love to have the Abris, Shkval and flight instruments displayed on two or three screens below the main view screen..

My understanding is that the Shkval cannot be viewed on a USB screen but the Abris can(?)

Anyway, I'll wait for the PCIP and hope that these things become easier to set up then..

 

Regarding these MFD's, I personally find them quite pointless without screens.. But they're quite cheap, so I'd definetly consider buying and using them along with two usb screens..

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Have been interested myself........Can anyone clarify with certainty whether the USB Screens are capable of displaying either the Shkval or the ABRIS?

 

 

 

Regarding these MFD's, I personally find them quite pointless without screens.. But they're quite cheap, so I'd definetly consider buying and using them along with two usb screens..

 

+1

 

Would'nt it be nifty if the MFD Info re the A-10C module could be ported to the USB screens.........Hog-Heaven, so to Speak!

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Regarding these MFD's, I personally find them quite pointless without screens.. But they're quite cheap, so I'd definetly consider buying and using them along with two usb screens..

 

I think I can understand the draw for this type hardware, especially for the more-than-casual flight simmer. This type device seems to me to add immersion and extra buttons, both of which are never available in sufficient quantity! :smilewink:

 

It's really no different than using something like Touchbuddy where I may have, for example, on another screen a background image of a panel (including MFD type displays). I usually put some relevant information in the screen area to aid in using the panel or MFD. Thi9s is similar to what TM has done with the overlays ,(eh, I guess they're underlays!).

 

I don't have the room (or the talent :megalol:) for a full simpit, though I'd dearly love one. A pair of these MFD devices for only ~$70 US goes a long way to increasing the realism. And I have seen the asking prices for more realistic MFD frames for the more serious in our crowd! These from TM are a bargain if they don't collapse under use. 28 buttons per MFD = 56 buttons and that is about a buck and a quarter US per switch. Believe me, I have priced switchology at a lot more than that during my pit-building fantasy excursions :joystick:

 

Besides, I have a cute VGA 7" touchscreen I'm not using that might be a partial fit somewhere! :smilewink:

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Well Film the answer was not that hard to find not like its a trade secret or any thing. Now we just have to wait and see how we will be able to export the Multi-Function Colour Displays .

Ya, but he is wrong- or he might be right based on his software!

 

It does work!

 

more info will come later!

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

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Well Film the answer was not that hard to find not like its a trade secret or any thing. Now we just have to wait and see how we will be able to export the Multi-Function Colour Displays .

 

 

No, it is a secret for now ! I not the one directly involved so I can't go into any details. All I can say it will work , and work well. I will be able to talk more down the road!

 

Don't get upset

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Well not a very good one lol. There is absolutely no reason I would get upset Film . I don't plan on buying any thing that is not a real A-10 part. If i have to use a part that is not real i will build it my self Thanks

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https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

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Well not a very good one lol. There is absolutely no reason I would get upset Film . I don't plan on buying any thing that is not a real A-10 part. If i have to use a part that is not real i will build it my self Thanks

 

 

I totally respect that- I build my own parts too! Building a pit based on real parts- your pit will be top notch. Can't wait to see your progress!

 

We will be starting a new forum for the A-10 here soon ( pit builders) - one that anyone can show there stuff!

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